#249 - 277 Park Avenue, New York City

***New Jack City*** · July 31st, 2003, 09:58 PM

Source: http://www.greatgridlock.net/NYC/nyc.html

Height: 687 ft/ 209 m
Floors: 51
Year: 1962
Architect: Emery Roth & Sons

was built in 1958-1964 on the site of a McKim, Mead & White apartment house from 1925.
Located opposite the Union Carbide Building, these two presented the latest trend in skyscraper design, started with the Seagram Building further up the avenue, with their soaring towers set on pillars -- the 277 in fact taking the style of its entrace canopy from the Seagram's.

The buildings employ a similar style of black steel spandrels and soaring white mullions framing the dark-tinted glass -- although here the vertical mullions alternate with narrower black ones, as opposed to their more "dominating" presence on the neighbouring building's facade -- and the building is at 209.5 m of approximately the same size.

The 50-storey building houses 139,400 m² of space within the tower and the set-back additions flanking it on the sides.

The building was acquired in 1980 by the Chemical Bank as its world headquarters, which relocated from the 20 Pine Street in Downtown Manhattan. The 1996 merger with Chase Manhattan marked a move across the street to the ex-Union Carbide Building.

In 1982 the three-storey, glass-walled Chemcourt Atrium by Haines Lundberg Waehler was added to the Park Avenue side of the building, complete with trees, shrubs, plants and a fountain.

SteelCity32 · August 1st, 2003, 02:01 AM

it's a box. 5.5/10

***RafflesCity*** · August 1st, 2003, 02:27 AM

6.5/10

Its ok I guess.

renell · August 1st, 2003, 12:54 PM

look at the facade in the 2nd pic, it's ugly! 5.5/10

The Messiah · August 1st, 2003, 04:44 PM

If it's ugly,then why are you still giving a decent mark?

And i agree with you that's it ugly 4.5/10

Gulcrapek · August 1st, 2003, 06:19 PM

This is one of the buildings that represents the 60s - maximum space with minimum design effort. It's one of the buildings that has absolutely no place and doesn't deserve to be where it is, or even exist.

August 1st, 2003, 09:35 PM

I usually like boxes but I hate this one. 5/10

james2390 · August 4th, 2003, 06:09 PM

that second pic. is awesome, 8

Labrador · August 4th, 2003, 06:55 PM

6
Looks like a bigger St. Helen's, but a bit uglier. I'm not too keen on this one, but it's got height.

renell · August 12th, 2003, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Messiah

If it's ugly,then why are you still giving a decent mark?

And i agree with you that's it ugly 4.5/10

umm.. that is a low mark man

Vloepkleedje · August 12th, 2003, 06:24 PM

4.0

makes me sleepy, nightmares probarbly

Winus · August 12th, 2003, 09:20 PM

It looks like my university. Chaos in a boring box....

Andrew · August 12th, 2003, 10:28 PM

Another box. Boring! 4/10 Next.....

Gustavo · August 13th, 2003, 06:15 PM

Very New York, 6/10.

August 16th, 2003, 04:07 PM

4.0

SUNNI · August 18th, 2003, 11:07 AM

first pic is sweet, but the second is just...errrrr

6/10

De Snor · August 18th, 2003, 09:19 PM

call a demolition squad please

Roch5220 · August 20th, 2003, 11:50 PM

looks like a european skyscraper to me. 5/10

Imperfect Ending · August 25th, 2003, 01:24 PM

5

Bleh.

Kaneda · August 27th, 2003, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roch5220

looks like a european skyscraper to me. 5/10

huh ?

An ugly box ! 3.5/10

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July 31st, 2003, 09:58 PM	#1
*New Jack City* Administrator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 5,611	#249 - 277 Park Avenue, New York City Source: http://www.greatgridlock.net/NYC/nyc.html Height: 687 ft/ 209 m Floors: 51 Year: 1962 Architect: Emery Roth & Sons was built in 1958-1964 on the site of a McKim, Mead & White apartment house from 1925. Located opposite the Union Carbide Building, these two presented the latest trend in skyscraper design, started with the Seagram Building further up the avenue, with their soaring towers set on pillars -- the 277 in fact taking the style of its entrace canopy from the Seagram's. The buildings employ a similar style of black steel spandrels and soaring white mullions framing the dark-tinted glass -- although here the vertical mullions alternate with narrower black ones, as opposed to their more "dominating" presence on the neighbouring building's facade -- and the building is at 209.5 m of approximately the same size. The 50-storey building houses 139,400 m² of space within the tower and the set-back additions flanking it on the sides. The building was acquired in 1980 by the Chemical Bank as its world headquarters, which relocated from the 20 Pine Street in Downtown Manhattan. The 1996 merger with Chase Manhattan marked a move across the street to the ex-Union Carbide Building. In 1982 the three-storey, glass-walled Chemcourt Atrium by Haines Lundberg Waehler was added to the Park Avenue side of the building, complete with trees, shrubs, plants and a fountain. Last edited by Wu-Gambino; July 24th, 2004 at 12:44 AM.

August 1st, 2003, 02:27 AM	#3
*RafflesCity* By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,092	6.5/10 Its ok I guess. __________________ The new downtown at Marina Bay VIDEO CLIP

August 1st, 2003, 12:54 PM	#4
renell Here Since 2002 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney/Metro Manila Posts: 5,024	look at the facade in the 2nd pic, it's ugly! 5.5/10 __________________ Anderlecht: Purple Dynamite

August 1st, 2003, 04:44 PM	#5
The Messiah Finishing this fight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Middelburg(The Netherlands) Posts: 1,292	If it's ugly,then why are you still giving a decent mark? And i agree with you that's it ugly 4.5/10 __________________ The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 2 characters.

August 1st, 2003, 02:01 AM	#2
SteelCity32 Don't be that guy! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,098	it's a box. 5.5/10 __________________ I often dream of huge numb buildings, jet black sinister architecture. Being installed when nobody sees. Their appearence so sudden that few would take notice.

August 1st, 2003, 06:19 PM	#6
Gulcrapek Confused Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NYC Posts: 39	This is one of the buildings that represents the 60s - maximum space with minimum design effort. It's one of the buildings that has absolutely no place and doesn't deserve to be where it is, or even exist.

August 1st, 2003, 09:35 PM	#7
BGT Guest Posts: n/a	I usually like boxes but I hate this one. 5/10

August 4th, 2003, 06:09 PM	#8
james2390 Tribune Tower Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 2,917	that second pic. is awesome, 8 __________________ ROUGH SKYLINE SKETCH My Skyscraper Creations \| My Myspace

August 4th, 2003, 06:55 PM	#9
Labrador of Cumberland Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Carlisle Posts: 200	6 Looks like a bigger St. Helen's, but a bit uglier. I'm not too keen on this one, but it's got height. __________________ Carlisle Click for skyline poll

August 12th, 2003, 06:24 PM	#11
Vloepkleedje arnhmember Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arnhem Posts: 1,488	4.0 makes me sleepy, nightmares probarbly __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/Vloepk/

August 12th, 2003, 09:20 PM	#12
Winus heanig an Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 4,543	It looks like my university. Chaos in a boring box.... __________________ De kloomp'maj anhoalen: Enschede-Stad.nl

August 12th, 2003, 10:28 PM	#13
Andrew Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cardiff/Newcastle Posts: 3,322	Another box. Boring! 4/10 Next..... __________________ Take a look at the Cardiff and Newcastle tall buildings lists at www.skyscrapernews.com! My Photo Threads: Newport ~ 'Downtown' Cardiff ~ Cardiff Queen Street ~ Cardiff Demolition ~ Cardiff Waterfronts <> Dali (大理) China ~ Fenghuang (凤凰) China ~ Xi'an (西安) China

August 13th, 2003, 06:15 PM	#14
Gustavo Super Mega Expert Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: La Gran Caracas Posts: 496	Very New York, 6/10. __________________ Latin Forums

August 16th, 2003, 04:07 PM	#15
UrbanLandscape Guest Posts: n/a	4.0

August 18th, 2003, 11:07 AM	#16
SUNNI old member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,086	first pic is sweet, but the second is just...errrrr 6/10 __________________ Original

August 18th, 2003, 09:19 PM	#17
De Snor Forever Travelling Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,429	call a demolition squad please

August 20th, 2003, 11:50 PM	#18
Roch5220 My dog rules Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, NYC Posts: 1,679	looks like a european skyscraper to me. 5/10

August 25th, 2003, 01:24 PM	#19
Imperfect Ending ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Los Angeles \| Bangkok ( The two City of Angels ) Posts: 8,536	5 Bleh. __________________ Las Vegas \| Los Angeles \| San Francisco ︷︸︸︷︸︷︷︸︷︸ Join the SkyscraperCity-Myspace group!

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