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Old September 29th, 2007, 05:50 PM   #121
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Miami is a well kept secret. Yes it's number two in skyscraper (150m+) construction with 27 (according to SSP) being built, only the out of control city of Dubai is building more with .. wait for it ... 122 under construction!

Ok here's the table (scrapers under construction 150 meters or above)

122 Dubai
27 Miami
19 Shanghai
18 Chicago
17 Moscow
16 Chongqing
16 Guangzhou
16 New York
14 Kuwait
14 Shenzhen
13 Nanjing
8 Hong Kong
dubai is insane. I didnt know miami was so on the rise.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 05:50 PM   #122
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100F and a flat roof...would be never over 500m
Moscow Tower: 612m with 118floors (1floor=4m - (18x4)= 100 floors= 540m
Shanghai: 492m with 101 floors
FT: 541m with 108 floors = 100floors = 509m!
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Old September 29th, 2007, 05:56 PM   #123
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dubai is insane. I didnt know miami was so on the rise.
The Miami/Dade County metro area is pretty much out of available undeveloped land - it butts right up to the Everglades and Everglades National Park - while its population continues to increase at a fairly rapid pace. The only way for them to go is 'up'.

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Old September 29th, 2007, 06:06 PM   #124
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Moscow Tower: 612m with 118floors (1floor=4m - (18x4)= 100 floors= 540m
Shanghai: 492m with 101 floors
FT: 541m with 108 floors = 100floors = 509m!
1. the whole top part of the Moscow City tower is without any floor
2. the top part of SWFC has only 1-2 floors
3. the FT- roof ends at 415m...until 541m is only the spire

this tower has a flat roof, and it seems the last floors will be just under it
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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:04 PM   #125
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This tower is RESIDENTIAL, the floor-ceiling heights are less than those other OFFICE buildings. That is where you get the biggest difference.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:07 PM   #126
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yes, that is also a big point for the final height
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Old September 29th, 2007, 10:03 PM   #127
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SSP numbers would be even more inaccurate.
China is so large and the amount of Chinese contributors on emporis is nothing compared to those in Europe and North America so we have very incomplete databases for those cities. Another thing is North American cities tend to have all the towers clustered in one area while in Chinese cities they're spread out throughout the entire city which makes it even more difficult to keep track of.

Anyway, I'd like to see some renders of this in the skyline.
Looks like that I-robot skyline's becoming somewhat of a reality (except for the dried up lake of course )
I guess the only choice we got is to learn Chinese and start gatecrashing skyscrapers.cn to get more info.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #128
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This design makes me think of the West Side Centerpiece Tower proposed here. It's around the same height as this one, but I think the design is going to be changed.

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?b36200
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Old September 30th, 2007, 08:48 AM   #129
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Lol @ everyone saying we are copying others when we can just turn around and say they copy us for building any skyscraper at all.
Rest assure, there are way too many copycats of chicago skyline
We were the pioneer
Anyway, I love the initial design and hope to hear the height estimation closing in on...3000ft?
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Old September 30th, 2007, 10:34 AM   #130
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This tower is RESIDENTIAL, the floor-ceiling heights are less than those other OFFICE buildings. That is where you get the biggest difference.
Convinced:-)
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Old September 30th, 2007, 10:36 AM   #131
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What the heck is this?! I dunno about it...Chicago's new skyscrapers are looking way too modern for my taste.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 08:04 PM   #132
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What the heck is this?! I dunno about it...Chicago's new skyscrapers are looking way too modern for my taste.
Im so glad that we've actually moved beyond the post-modern crap that plaqued this city for so many years. These new proposals designs are a huge breath of fresh air for me.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 08:08 PM   #133
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It's nice looking, but I just don't think "Chicago" with towers such as this and Spire.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 08:21 PM   #134
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It's nice looking, but I just don't think "Chicago" with towers such as this and Spire.
I see what youre saying and I think thats okay. Its a new Chicago thats forming in my eyes. Slowly but definitely surely this city is moving forward and I look at projects like this and the Spire as righting the horrible architectural wrongs that took place in River North and Central Station (save OMP and after) over the past eight years.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 08:35 PM   #135
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I see what youre saying and I think thats okay. Its a new Chicago thats forming in my eyes. Slowly but definitely surely this city is moving forward and I look at projects like this and the Spire as righting the horrible architectural wrongs that took place in River North and Central Station (save OMP and after) over the past eight years.
Well, I can see where you are coming from in that regard. River North is just a sea of disgusting concrete highrises.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 09:07 PM   #136
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Well, I can see where you are coming from in that regard. River North is just a sea of disgusting concrete highrises.
Its not that bad! but its certainly getting better.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 09:45 PM   #137
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Rest assure, there are way too many copycats of chicago skyline
We were the pioneer
Anyway, I love the initial design and hope to hear the height estimation closing in on...3000ft?
Americans change behavior based on the market all the time. There is always a huge amount of construction in the USA, if you compare all the construction based on square feet in chicago vs dubai you'd probably notice chicago is building more, but mostly out in the suburbs in buildings that are not noticed because they are wide long and short. I think that the increase in price of gas has caused a return to activity in almost all city centers in the USA and any that have not started yet, will start soon. Houston for example, that hasn't built a significant building downtown in a long time is starting to see proposals and has a few scheduled for construction already. If gas prices go up even more, you'll see a lot more action in our city centers.

I used to live in the suburbs, now I'm in school in a small town, but when I move back to the city (hopefully chicago) I plan to try to live in the city center so that I don't have to drive my car everyday.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 10:04 PM   #138
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What the heck is this?! I dunno about it...Chicago's new skyscrapers are looking way too modern for my taste.
Well, with Chicago being the birthplace of modern architecture in the first place, (in the skyscraper sence) why do they seen too modern?
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Old September 30th, 2007, 10:15 PM   #139
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This will be a spectacular addition to the Chicago skyline. I love the design, and I think it will really compliment the Spire because of its close proximity. Way to go Chicago!
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Old September 30th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #140
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Well, with Chicago being the birthplace of modern architecture in the first place, (in the skyscraper sence) why do they seen too modern?
I think he is referring to the Chicago style of architecture, which I'd also like to see more of. But I'm not complaining at all. I love most of the new designs and think it adds to the most diverse architecture on the planet.
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