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Old June 27th, 2017, 03:20 PM   #2101
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Is the Øresund bridge profitable for the managing company?
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Old June 27th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #2102
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Is the Øresund bridge profitable for the managing company?
According to the annual report for 2016, The Bridge consortia had a net profit of DKK 809 millions (EUR 109 mio.) in 2016. The profit is used to pay-back a net-debt of DKK 15,45 bn (EUR 2,07 bn). The debt is - according to the annual report - expected to be paid back in 2034.

https://data.oresundsbron.com/cms/do...eport-2016.pdf
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Old June 27th, 2017, 09:32 PM   #2103
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Not compared to route via the Øresund Bridge, which seemed quite obvious to me. Ferries suck, I avoid them when I can. What is a 'coffee break with a sea view' for some may be an unwanted stop for others.

The Helsingør - Helsingborg ferry cost is € 55 one way (plus coffee ), more expensive than the Øresund Bridge tolls + fuel and it doesn't save travel time either despite the shorter distance.
Well, well...

The toll of the bridge is the same as the ferry ticket at the ticket box, DKK 410 for a passenger car. The crossing time plus the average waiting time is about 30 minutes. The time is quite well compensated by the 40 km shorter driving: The E6 Malmö-Helsingborg leg is a lousy 2+2 motorway at its capacity limit, and prone to congestion. The market share by the number of vehicles is about 25% for the ferry and 75% for the bridge. The share of the ferry would not be that high if it were not a liable choice.

For the sake of the other people's safety, I recommend taking coffee breaks during the driving day.
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Old June 27th, 2017, 09:55 PM   #2104
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The big plus for the bridge instead of the ferry is convenience. No reserving a spot, no planning for arriving at a certain time, no waiting time, no loading / unloading, etc. You just arrive and proceed right away.

I do think the Øresund Bridge is overpriced for tourists and one/two-time users though. The Great Belt Bridge has more reasonable tolls.
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Old July 3rd, 2017, 07:34 PM   #2105
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If the ferry was directly connected to motorway it would be a better alternative, the road trough Helsingør is no good.
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Old July 24th, 2017, 02:02 PM   #2106
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MJ Eriksson has won the 200 million kroner contract to build the 6 kilometer extension of the Kalundborg motorway.

This part is from where it ends today at near Kvanløse and then a new motorway outside Regstrup (the part MJ Eriksson will build) to Damstrup.

Rest of stage 2 is to rebuild Skovvejen to motorway standard.

http://www.building-supply.dk/articl...ioner_motorvej


http://www.vejdirektoratet.dk/da/vej...r/default.aspx
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Old July 24th, 2017, 04:24 PM   #2107
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4,5 million euro per km, that is really cheap.
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Old July 24th, 2017, 04:30 PM   #2108
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Those are prices you would usually find in Spain. Though I think it excludes planning and expropriation cost.

It is not a simple twinning of the existing road, but a greenfield route. Only the Kvanløse - Søndre Jernløse section runs across the existing road, but that is already a four lane divided highway (without shoulders). That section has only one bridge, but it is wide enough for a motorway cross section (including shoulders).

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Old July 24th, 2017, 07:29 PM   #2109
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Well the 200 million is only for the blue part, according to the article the total price is 450 millions but I think it includes planning work etc.
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Old July 31st, 2017, 11:09 AM   #2110
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The minister of traffic had released the 7 most important motorway projects until 2025.

Improvements and widening of E45 Østjyske Motorvej and E20 Fynsmotorvejen.

New Hærvejs motorway through the middle of jutland.

Final stages of the Hillerød, Frederikssund and Kalundborg motorways.

And the 3rd crossing of Limfjorden in Aalborg.
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Old July 31st, 2017, 12:08 PM   #2111
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Hm.. What happened to Næstved connection?
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Old July 31st, 2017, 12:12 PM   #2112
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The mayor is not happy.

But I think its fair that at least Hillerød and Frederikssund gets build before Næstved as they were planned before.

But I don't think they have cancelled the planned first stage but I'm not sure.
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Old July 31st, 2017, 03:45 PM   #2113
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Hm.. What happened to Næstved connection?
The Næstved connection progressed because Magnus Heunicke (Social Democratic politician from Næstved) was minister of transport. That was a couple of transport ministers ago.

It may not be the whole story, but it has something to do with it.
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Old July 31st, 2017, 05:13 PM   #2114
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The villages west of Kolding doesn´t like the idea of a motorway through their area, in this case the southernmost part the possible Hærvejsmotorvej.


The article is in danish but there is a picture.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/nyheder/samfu...torvej/6761707
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Storstrømsbroen. A magnificent piece of old steel. But in a miserable condition.

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Old August 7th, 2017, 11:56 PM   #2116
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But also soon to be replaced.
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Old August 8th, 2017, 12:57 PM   #2117
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Expansion of Køge Bugt Motorvejen is now nearing the real completion with the southbound direction being finished. The northbound direction will likely be finished during next weekend.
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Old August 8th, 2017, 07:17 PM   #2118
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As for Storstrømsbroen and its replacement, are there any issues with Lillebæltsbroen at all? For one thing, Lillebælt carries all railway traffic from Sjælland/Fyn to Jylland and vice versa and is of the same age but AFAIK there are no issues with that bridge at all. Was Lillebælt built more robust?
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Old August 8th, 2017, 07:29 PM   #2119
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Both were built during the 1930s. Gamle Lillebæltsbro opened in 1935 and Storstrømbroen in 1937. Besides the obvious pavement quality (Storstrømbroen has terrible concrete pavement, but Gamle Lillebæltsbro has okay asphalt), I haven't read about any replacement for the Old Little Belt Bridge.

Railroad bridges were typically built more robust than road bridges. The weight of trains has not increased that much since the early 20th century while the weight and amount of truck traffic has increased substantially since the mid-20th century rendering bridges structurally deficient, or shortening its projected lifespan.

However, both the Little Belt Bridge and Storstrøm Bridge are dual rail/road bridges.
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Old August 8th, 2017, 10:06 PM   #2120
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However, both the Little Belt Bridge and Storstrøm Bridge are dual rail/road bridges.
Still, their construction are totally different. The steel truss bridges seem to be quite durable everywhere. The Little Belt bridge is a camelback truss bridge, and the Storstrøm bridge is a girder bridge with three steel arcs. I believe the Storstrøm bridge is located in a place with more harsh weather conditions, and those ones might have a negative impact on the maintainability.
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