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Old December 13th, 2017, 11:41 AM   #2181
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I took a look at the websites of those construction companies. Quite frankly they don't seem very experienced in the European construction sector, judging by their portfolio, which is mostly limited to construction projects in Italy.

And these portfolios are often exaggerated. Not rarely are these lesser-known construction companies only a junior partner, subcontractor or part of a larger group at major construction projects.

* Itinera has built only one road project outside of Italy: the Vác bypass in Hungary
* Condotte d'Aqua has built one motorway project in Romania. Most of their portfolio consists of projects that were completed decades ago. They are a partner in the Follobanen project near Oslo, which raised concerns about liquidity problems
* Grandi Lavori Fincosit does not list any infrastructure projects outside of Italy.
Not to mention that Fincosit has the tender for the construction of 2nd Tenda Tunnel tube, and it is involved in the investigation for the underuse of construction materials.
Itinera also built the Fez-Meknes stretch of Moroccan A2, and a tunnel on A1 in Slovenia.

Condotte d'Acqua has a long portfolio of works abroad...
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Old December 13th, 2017, 11:51 AM   #2182
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Condotte d'Acqua has a long portfolio of works abroad...
That portfolio includes only one motorway project in Europe (outside of Italy). A section of A1 in Romania. And a flatland motorway is not exactly similar to a sea crossing.

Several other projects on their portfolio were completed decades ago. Viadotto Polcevera near Genova was built half a century ago, as was the Mont Blanc Tunnel.

Also, they are often not clear about their contribution to projects on their portfolios. Sometimes they are lead constructor, but often they only built portions of the project.
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Old December 18th, 2017, 04:15 PM   #2183
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Nordhavnsvej

The Nordhavnsvej in Copenhagen was inaugurated yesterday.







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Old December 18th, 2017, 04:16 PM   #2184
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Old December 18th, 2017, 05:48 PM   #2185
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Hh, was there this morning.... closed
Yup, it opened at 12:00
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Old December 18th, 2017, 11:04 PM   #2186
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Political pressure is emerging to not sign the contract for the Storstrøm Bridge with the Italian consortium. 2 out of 3 construction companies are evidently involved in a corruption and bribery scandal in Italy.

https://www.tveast.dk/artikel/politi...korruptionssag
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Old December 19th, 2017, 12:49 AM   #2187
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Old December 19th, 2017, 02:15 PM   #2188
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Political pressure is emerging to not sign the contract for the Storstrøm Bridge with the Italian consortium. 2 out of 3 construction companies are evidently involved in a corruption and bribery scandal in Italy.

https://www.tveast.dk/artikel/politi...korruptionssag
Contract signing, which was supposed to happen to day, has been postponed at least until after a meeting in the Parliament Transport Committee later today. The problem is that it can be very complicated not signing a contract with a company winning an EU bid just based on newpaper stories and various allegations.

http://politiken.dk/indland/art62594...r-kroner%C2%AB
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Old December 19th, 2017, 11:30 PM   #2189
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The politicians pull the emergency brake on the Storstrøm Bridge contract signing: https://www.tveast.dk/artikel/politi...kontrakt-om-ny

Reportedly it is not just allegations, top executives have been convicted for corruption, according to the TV Øst report.

Still, besides the corruption and bribery stories, it is still remarkable that they want to award such a complex project to a consortium that appears to lack experience with such projects.

There's only so much you can mess up with a general road project, in the worst case scenario you'll repave it. But this is a much more challenging project, a very large rail/road bridge in a saltwater environment with labor laws and oversight probably more strict than in most countries.
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Old December 21st, 2017, 05:34 PM   #2190
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Vejdirektoratet published a video about the Storstrøm Bridge:

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Old January 10th, 2018, 07:29 PM   #2191
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Storstrøm Bridge

The national lawyer (Kammeradvokaten) has concluded that the contract for the Storstrøm Bridge replacement cannot be awarded to another company solely on the allegations and convictions of bribery and corruption alone.

However, one of the consortium's partners (Condotte) is in financial trouble. This should be sorted out before the contract will be signed.

Awarding the project to a different consortium would mean a 15 month delay.

https://www.trm.dk/da/nyheder/2018/k...orstroemsbroen
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Old January 11th, 2018, 05:36 PM   #2192
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The national lawyer (Kammeradvokaten) has concluded that the contract for the Storstrøm Bridge replacement cannot be awarded to another company solely on the allegations and convictions of bribery and corruption alone.

However, one of the consortium's partners (Condotte) is in financial trouble. This should be sorted out before the contract will be signed.

Awarding the project to a different consortium would mean a 15 month delay.

https://www.trm.dk/da/nyheder/2018/k...orstroemsbroen

I guess this is good news for a great deal of govt. workers and in financial department. The real need* for the bridge won't arise until the Fehmarnbelt tunnel gets finished, and at this rate the construction might start in 2019-2020 at earliest.


Anyways given the nature of the project itself (4 kms of length, double-track electrified railway and casual highway with bike lanes - over maritime climate with salt water) I do hope they'll re-do the bidding process even as this waste of time has costs in itself.



* Yes I know about the dilapidated state of the current bridge, but as we're talking about connecting one of the poorest and least populated area of Denmark to Zealand the new bridge isn't much of a priority in itself either. Though I suppose it spoils the real estate market of Falster for a few more years as there'll never be a commuting distance of 1h to Copenhagen by train without this project.
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Old January 12th, 2018, 12:20 AM   #2193
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I guess this is good news for a great deal of govt. workers and in financial department. The real need* for the bridge won't arise until the Fehmarnbelt tunnel gets finished, and at this rate the construction might start in 2019-2020 at earliest.

Anyways given the nature of the project itself (4 kms of length, double-track electrified railway and casual highway with bike lanes - over maritime climate with salt water) I do hope they'll re-do the bidding process even as this waste of time has costs in itself.
Such cases are not rare, because the competition is hard, and the public sector seems sometimes to be in a trouble with the local act of public contracts.

The selection of the contractor for the 10 km section Lohjanharju-Lohja of the motorway 1/E18 in Finland 15 years ago got succeeded no earlier than at the fourth round. The first three ones were rejected by the Market Court because some of the candidated appealed.

Some cases are quite desperate. Today, the Finnish company Lemminkäinen appealed against the Finnish Road Agency for the 75 million euro project to upgrade 23 km of the road 5. The justification: One of the eleven persons, which the winner had nominated to the project lead, is not fully qualified according to the spokesman of Lemminkäinen. (The company has experience about courts: nine years ago, it was convicted to penalties of 68 million euro for leading an asphalt cartel of seven companies.)
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Old January 16th, 2018, 12:38 PM   #2194
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NEW SIGN for Local speed limits

Local speed limits are being introduced along more places on the danish roads , these are often higher than the usual general speed limits on rural roads and motorways.

For example, on many rural roads you may drive 90 km/h compared to the the usual 80 km/h.

However, many places with local speed limits increase the risk of drivers being in doubt as to what the speed limit is.

This problem will now be solved with a new traffic sign according to the FDM.(Danish motorist organization)

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Old January 16th, 2018, 12:49 PM   #2195
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'end 90' means 80 then?
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Old January 16th, 2018, 01:27 PM   #2196
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'end 90' means 80 then?
Yes, it does, because 80 is the standard speed limit on Danish country roads. The "80" sign below is apparently meant as a reminder.

The same applies inside cities when major roads have a higher speed limit than the standard 50, let us say 60. Then they have an "end 60" sign with a city sign below, as a reminder that you are inside the city speed limit zone.
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Why not just install an '80' sign then?
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Old January 16th, 2018, 01:36 PM   #2198
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Why not just install an '80' sign then?
The same reason you don't wallpaper motorways with "130"... it's implicit.
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Old January 16th, 2018, 01:37 PM   #2199
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Why not just install an '80' sign then?
In Germany we do just that ... (well, 100 in our case )
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The same reason you don't wallpaper motorways with "130"
Actually the Dutch do it :-)
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