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Old November 24th, 2009, 02:58 PM   #481
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The danish plates are not "exactly" the same as the swedish. The swedish has 3 letters and 3 digits.
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Old November 24th, 2009, 04:52 PM   #482
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I think that we should get rid of all those EU-plates, and go back to the countries' original plates... We don't need those EU-ones anyway in a couple of years.. at that time all the EU-countries will be states in the United States of Europe
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Old November 28th, 2009, 08:34 PM   #483
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I think that we should get rid of all those EU-plates, and go back to the countries' original plates... We don't need those EU-ones anyway in a couple of years.. at that time all the EU-countries will be states in the United States of Europe
A perfect opportunity to come up with some distinct/nifty looking plates.

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I agree, now because the EU strip there is no way to distinguish between Danish and Swiss plates. Both looks exactly the same, with their European Union design... oh, wait...

And don't tell me that somebody working in 'manual traffic control' cannot distinguish German plate in the crowd. They look nothing like Danish, with the control stickers you can tell between them from 50 meters. Just admit, you prefer the plates of 'aliens' to be different so you can shoot them on sight

And about nationality oval - Why, for heavens sake most of DK ovals aren't white? They are just letters over the car's original colour. In some instances it can be impossible to tell the nationality of the car in country where Danish plates are not so common.
German number plates were/are the most common plates I saw, followed by the Swiss. That's what I liked about working on the highways. In town, you don't see those number plates as often.

Prior to the EU plates coming into general use, I was able to go by the nationality decal, which, from what I understand about them, are SUPPOSED to be white with black letters.
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Old December 4th, 2009, 07:17 PM   #484
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Some pics of southbound E45 (M80) exit 17-23 and some of exit 23 (Kridtsvinget)

First: Yes, the pics do suck, what are you gonna do??
All the pics are copyrighted by ME, Danielk2. Any replicating of other pics on SSC is unintentional.
Second: The pics

1. Exit 17 - Lyngdrup


2. Exit 18 - Vodskov N - one of the 2 Vodskov exits


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4. Danish exit marker. The german one is better at explaining that it's an exit


5. Exit 19 - Vodskov - the other Vodskov exit


6. Hals is signposted here, even though it's more than 30km away from the exit


7. This is the beginnig of the low-speed limit zone called Aalborg


8. Exit 20 - Bouet. This is also the exit towards E39, Aalborg Airport (AAL) and Thisted


9. The big black building is a Kvickly store


10. Limfjordstunnelen is only 3.5km away


11. Entering very-low speed limit zone. these signs can only show speed limits of 90, 70 and 50


12. Interchange Vendsyssel. M80 becomes M70. No southbound exit


13. Exit 21 - Nørresundby N - last exit before the tunnel. The oversized flag is used by Stadsing Denmark to make people notice their building


14. Still very low speed limit. Mercedes-Benz dealer on the other side of the road


15. Right lane exits just after Limfjordstunnelen


16. Inside the 600m long Limfjordstunnel


17. Taking exit 23 - Aalborg N. As you can see, the exits in Aalborg aren't too far apart. Speed limit of 70, because of a very sharp right-left double curve


18. Exit to Østhavnen, Aalborg's industrial harbour


19. Motorway ends in 300m


20. End of motorway. Aalborg city limits


21. Overheads. The billboard further ahead is quite new. JCDecaux have the exclusive rights to put up large scale billboards at major roads in Aalborg and Nørresundby. Generally, billboards are not allowed in Denmark.
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Old December 4th, 2009, 07:39 PM   #485
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Does anybody uses those M-numbers? They're not signed.
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Old December 4th, 2009, 08:42 PM   #486
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You're a traffic engineer, you shuld know. It's administrative numbers. it's for Vejdirektoratet and the police to use.

M is for Motorvej

The M-numbers on E45 are:
M80: Frederikshavnmotorvejen (Frederikshavn ferry port - Interchange Vendsyssel)
M70: Nordjyske Motorvej (Interchange Vendsyssel - Interchange Århus Vest)
M60: Østjyske Motorvej (Interchange Århus Vest - Interchange Skærup)
M50: Sønderjyske Motorvej (Interchange Skærup - DK/D Border Ellund)
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Old December 4th, 2009, 08:45 PM   #487
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You can also see the M-numbers on the roadside markers



From the top:
45 - this is km's
2 - this i 100m's
M20 - this is the M-number
Blue arrow - nearest emergency phone
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Old December 5th, 2009, 12:26 AM   #488
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M numbers are for internal use only...

Didnt know that the police were using those numbers too. I will ask around to be sure
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Old December 5th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #489
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I'm not quite sure they do, but i've heard that they use it to make it easier to locate accidents
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Old December 7th, 2009, 08:34 PM   #490
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Some pics of M70/M80 - this time northbound
First: Yes, the pics do suck, what are you gonna do??
All the pics are copyrighted by ME, Danielk2. Any replicating of other pics on SSC is unintentional.
Second: The pics

1. Starting at the entrance to E45 at exit 23.


2. The southbound E45 can be reached by taking the exit.


3. Very sharp left turn before the merge with E45.


4. Height control for trucks in 200m.


5. Trucks taller than 4.3m won't fit in the tunnel. As you can see, the merge of Kridtsvinget and E45 is right after the sign, meaning that trucks have nowhere to stop but in the middle of the road. + stupid 90 km/h speed limit


6. Exit 22, Nørresundby C is just 2-300m after the tunnel.


7. Exit 22, Nørresundby C. The flyover bridge of this exit collapsed 2 years ago during a widening from 1 to 2 lanes on the bridge. A construction worker was killed. He fell 5 metres down on the motorway, and was drowned in concrete.


8. The right lane ends here, this causes congestions every afternoon. There are 3 southbound lanes, but only 2 northbound. Adding a third lane is planned, and has been financed. Now they just need to start the construction. The flyover bridge that collapsed is visble in the background.


9. 500m to exit 21, Nørresundby N.


10. 1km to E39. The congestions ends aroud here.


11. 650m to the interchange


12. 400m. The only control city on the E39 is Hirtshals, and the only one on Primærrute 11 is Thisted. M80 becomes M70.


13. Exit 10 on E39 is the only left exit in Denmark.


14. Exit 20 - Bouet.


15. Only distance sign on the E45 with Sæby on it. Speed limit changes from 90 to 130.


16. Exit 19 - Vodskov.


17. 52km to Frederikshavn. I think Sæby should be signed as well.


18. 1200m to Exit 18, Vodskov N.
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Old December 18th, 2009, 10:31 PM   #491
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I have made an alternatives for some new roads to solve the trafficproblems in Aalborg South.

Some nut placed the Shoppingcenter about 6km south of the City without a proper conncetion to whatsoever.... Now with the coming of the (woohee) Ikea and the possible replacement of the hospital to the way eastern part ( another nut idea....) something has to be done to get us around.

The plan is as follows.. Most stupid parts of the plan are: 1x1 road (A) on map.. and the lack of grade seperated crossings... The main way into Aalborg comming from south (now motorway) should end in an intersection... Going left would be imho impossible to do without trafficlights, making the connection (A) eastwards anoying and slow.
In addition the plan is to make (a very south going) extra motorway (C2) to west Aalborg for a later extra tunnel west of Aalborg

My idea (in red) is to make use of the existing restarea combining the two new exits C2 and B into one and keeping the existing exits like it is.



The tunnel west around Aalborg will never come due to not enough traffic for a motorway. Instead Aalborg should focus on two new bridges over the Limfjord at Stuhrsvej/Engvej and Skydebanevej/Sydvestvej

What do you think?
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Old December 18th, 2009, 11:13 PM   #492
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I pretty much think that a motorway to City Syd is needed. On all holidays, traffic is completely jammed. When the new Ikea store is finished, traffic will collapse from City to City Syd every single christmas.
What i don't get about you map is, Are those roads your proposal, or are they already existing roads??
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Old December 18th, 2009, 11:44 PM   #493
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My proposal for new Aalborg road network

Youre' from Aalborg, so you might know what i mean when i refer to "the bridge" and "the tunnel"

1: 2nd tube, west or east of the tunnel
2: Widening the bridge to 3+3 lanes
3: Widening Vesterbro to entirely 2+2 and removing smaller acces roads.
4. Moving exit 27 towards north.
5. Normally, the Exit 28 motorway continues as route 187 towards Nibe. the motorway should be moved towards City Syd, so that people going to Centrum shold exit instead of the ones going to City Syd.
6. Motorway connection from E45 to the Storcenter. It's necessary to avoid a total collapse of traffic in southern Aalborg
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Old December 19th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #494
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What i don't get about you map is, Are those roads your proposal, or are they already existing roads??
In black the proposals from Aalborg Kommune. Those plans are in a final stadium.

In red mine... combining proposals B and C2 into one loverleaf interchange.


Your proposals about widening the Vesterbro are impossible, just like moving exit 27, which now is a minor used motorwayexit. Why move that one into a residential area??
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Old December 19th, 2009, 12:27 AM   #495
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I know that it's impossible to widen Vesterbro, because of all kinds of buildings placed 2 inches off the road. And exit 27, i actually think it should be removed. It has no pupose being there. To Centrum, you might as well use 28 or 26.
But a motorway to the Storcenter is not impossible. City Syd was build on a flat grass field far away from Aalborg years ago. But now, the 2 parts of the city has been connected, creating Aalborg's horrible traffic problems
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Old December 19th, 2009, 10:48 AM   #496
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If you continue northwards and make that 3rd Limfjordforbindelse at Stuhrsgade. Upgrade the Sønderbro a bit.. And there you are; a cheap, much needed, extra connection.

I post later a pic of that proposal There is christmas shopping to do
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Old December 19th, 2009, 10:52 AM   #497
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Never... Christmas shopping is at December 23!!!
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Old January 14th, 2010, 10:02 PM   #498
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Denmark has 1 left-hand exit and no left-hand entrances.

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I happened to make a picture of that situation as well;

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Old January 14th, 2010, 10:16 PM   #499
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I've always found that overhead stupid. They should largen the Sæby on the left sign or just remove it. With the right sign, i think that Hjørring should be enlargened, and Brønderslev split into 2: Brønder-slev. The current sign looks ugly
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Old January 15th, 2010, 10:58 AM   #500
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I made this vid of the southbound E45 from Lyngdrup to Aalborg 2 days ago. I'll add descriptions later
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