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Old March 29th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #601
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As of now, the E20 has 6 different M-numbers:

M52 from Esbjerg to Kolding V
M50 from Kolding V to Kolding N
M40 from Kolding N to the Great Belt Bridge
M20 from the Great Belt Bridge to Køge
M10 from Køge to Avedøre
M3 from Avedøre to the Øresund Bridge
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Old April 1st, 2010, 01:25 PM   #602
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I actually made a proposal to new M-numbers on Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...81a6dea60ddc44
What about on south and west of Køge? don't motorways exist there??
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Old April 5th, 2010, 02:50 PM   #603
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What about on south and west of Køge? don't motorways exist there??
Look at next page. I don't know why Google is splitting them up on pages, but they should all be there.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 01:12 AM   #604
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@ Spikespiegel

You can see the new exit-ramp on egedesvej on page 28, on this repport.

http://www.tinyurl.dk/16354

On page 29 you can also see a remodeling of exit-ramp 32.

p.s. In the picture(page28), you can see the s-train station on the left side of the motorway. And the intercity train station on the right side.

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Old April 14th, 2010, 04:59 PM   #605
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Ring 5 Motorway

This Monday the Ministry of Transport held a conference focusing on proposed major projects particularly in the Copenhagen Region and Eastern Jutland.

At the conference a rather detailed report on the proposed 65 km long Ring 5 motorway around Copenhagen was presented, including 3 different examined routes and detailed traffic forecast.

http://www.trm.dk/graphics/Synkron-L...somr%E5det.pdf


The traffic forecasts show that a Ring 5 motorway constructed to a 130 km/h standard would carry a traffic (AADT) between 35.000 and 70.000 cars a day, most on the middle and southern section.

Just as important the traffic forecasts showed that as well the radial and ring routes closer to Copenhagen would experience a traffic reduction of about 10-30%.



Regarding the proposed Central Jutland Motorway, The Road Directorate presented various alternatives if this motorway is not constructed.

According to the Road Directorate the E45 motorway will have to be widened to 6 lanes (3+3) all the way from Vejle to Århus before 2020. Right now it is only planned to widen a 16 km section From Skærup (between Kolding and Vejle) by 2013/15. Further widening to 8 lanes (4+4) is required around Vejle Fjord before 2030 and 8 lanes (4+4) between Vejle and Århus and 6 lanes (3+3) to Randers by 2040. Those conclusions are based on forecasts when traffic will reach what is called “critical congestion level”. According to the presentation at the Ministry website http://www.trm.dk/graphics/Synkron-L...rektoratet.pdf
“Critical congestion” is reached with an AADT of 70.000 vehicles on a 4 lane (2+2) motorway and 105.000 vehicles on a 6-lane (3+3) motorway.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 05:20 PM   #606
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I find the 105,000 figure for a 2x3 motorway rather low. There are examples of 2x3 motorways carrying 180,000 AADT. That's not really something you want to pursue, but it's hard to believe an 8-lane motorway is really necessary in rural Jutland between Vejle and Århus.

Interesting figures about København; cycling is even more important than public transport and is similar to Dutch levels in larger cities.
[IMG]http://i40.************/2ir2745.png[/IMG]

bil = car
cykel = bicycle
gang = walking (?)
kollektiv trafik = public transport
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Old April 14th, 2010, 09:20 PM   #607
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Today, there was a 4-5 car pile-up in the Limfjordstunnel. All roads leading to motorway exits in whole freaking aalborg were jammed with cars.

I happened to have been in Aalborg at that time today, BTW

Many people took a 30-40 km detour to Egense, and used the Egense-Hals ferry. A major problem is, the ferry can only carry 6 cars at the time (that being a problem with more than a hundred cars waiting to cross.)
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Old April 14th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #608
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Old April 14th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #609
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Old April 16th, 2010, 01:42 PM   #610
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I find the 105,000 figure for a 2x3 motorway rather low. There are examples of 2x3 motorways carrying 180,000 AADT. That's not really something you want to pursue, but it's hard to believe an 8-lane motorway is really necessary in rural Jutland between Vejle and Århus.

Interesting figures about København; cycling is even more important than public transport and is similar to Dutch levels in larger cities.
[IMG]http://i40.************/2ir2745.png[/IMG]

bil = car
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I don’t think there is any fixed maximum for how many cars you can squeeze into a 3+3 motorway a day (though 180.000 is not desirable at all). It depends on a number of factors for the specific motorway, including distribution over the day, directional distribution and distance between exits etc.

But according to the Danish Road Directorate specifically E45 in Eastern Jutland, will reach what they deem as “critical congestion” with AADT of approx 105.000 with 6 lanes (3+3).

With the growth over the last decade and with the projections at hand, the corridor between Kolding/Vejle and Århus is less and less “rural”, I think it is difficult to rule out the need for widening to 8 lanes over a couple of decades.

Bicycles are as you mention a very important factor in the largest cities in Denmark and especially in Copenhagen. On the other hand bicycling in general only amounts to 2% of total passenger-kilometers driven and public transport around 10 %. In larger towns in Jutland (between 35.000 and 100.000) the corresponding figures are bicycling 1,5 % and public transport 6,7 %. Private cars make up for more than 80 % of passenger-kilometers.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 01:58 PM   #611
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I don’t think there is any fixed maximum for how many cars you can squeeze into a 3+3 motorway a day (though 180.000 is not desirable at all). It depends on a number of factors for the specific motorway, including distribution over the day, directional distribution and distance between exits etc.
According to the Danish "Road Rules" of capacity and service level the ideal capacity of a road with 4 lanes or more is 2300 car units pr. hour pr. lane. So on a 6-lane road the capacity is 13800 car units pr. hour.

I don't have a link, sorry, I have it on paper.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 02:18 PM   #612
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According to the Danish "Road Rules" of capacity and service level the ideal capacity of a road with 4 lanes or more is 2300 car units pr. hour pr. lane. So on a 6-lane road the capacity is 13800 car units pr. hour.

I don't have a link, sorry, I have it on paper.
But this theoretical capacity can be limited if exits/accesses are close together, and if you have difficult lane lay-out. At the Limfjordstunnel, where you have 6 lanes the capacity is limited the lay-out of the access/exit north and south of the tunnel. Entering the motorway on the south and exiting in the north side you have to cross all lanes from left to right over a distance of 1300. That severely limits capacity.

I have read somewhere that what The Road Directorate call "critical congestion" is equal to 90% of theoretical capacity. (no link)
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But this theoretical capacity can be limited if exits/accesses are close together, and if you have difficult lane lay-out. At the Limfjordstunnel, where you have 6 lanes the capacity is limited the lay-out of the access/exit north and south of the tunnel. Entering the motorway on the south and exiting in the north side you have to cross all lanes from left to right over a distance of 1300. That severely limits capacity.

I have read somewhere that what The Road Directorate call "critical congestion" is equal to 90% of theoretical capacity. (no link)
Sure, that's why I wrote ideal capacity. But the conditions are never ideal.
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Old April 23rd, 2010, 10:42 PM   #614
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A small update from the (very undanish) Funder Ådal bridge... The Future motorway extention of '15' west of Silkeborg.

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Old May 21st, 2010, 03:09 PM   #615
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Quick question:

Since when is the Sønderborgmotorvejen under construction?
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Quick question:

Since when is the Sønderborgmotorvejen under construction?
Since March 25: http://www.vejdirektoratet.dk/dokume...t&objno=258078
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Old May 21st, 2010, 08:34 PM   #617
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A thing they should rather be working on instead of the Sønderborg Motorway, is the 2-3 lane expansion of E45 in Nørresundby. a month ago they got everything approved. Now they just gotta get up and start working.

Unbelievable that they can first finish it in 2011. It's a freaking mile of 1 extra lane
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Old May 21st, 2010, 08:57 PM   #618
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A thing they should rather be working on instead of the Sønderborg Motorway, is the 2-3 lane expansion of E45 in Nørresundby. a month ago they got everything approved. Now they just gotta get up and start working.

Unbelievable that they can first finish it in 2011. It's a freaking mile of 1 extra lane
No, that is not just making an extra lane. Recently expropriation determination took place. Next step is the expropriation itself and then must the work in EU-supply.

So that's why they have not started yet. They must take it one step at a time.
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The Øresund Bridge turns 10 today
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