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Old November 29th, 2010, 08:59 AM   #701
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Snowy again in Denmark.... (and still not december..)

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Old November 29th, 2010, 01:51 PM   #702
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Some interesting projects:

"Udbygning af Motorring 4 fra Taastrup til Frederikssundmotorvejen"

Construction of Motorring 4 from Taastrup to the Frederikssundmotorevejen

"Nordlig omfartsvej ved Næstved"

Construction of a 7 km 2+1 bypass of Næstved.

"Ny motorvej på strækningen Holstebro - Herning"

New motorway along the Holstebro - Herning route

"Rute 9 (Svendborg – Maribo)"

Feasibility study on the expansion of Rute 9 Svendborg - Maribo (incl. new bridge?)

"Rute 23 (Skovvejen) Kalundborg - Holbækmotorvejen"

Feasibility study on a 3 km new motorway near Regstrup.

There are even more interesting projects than the ones listed by Chris. It was all decided in a transport package agreed last Friday by all parties in Parliament except for a small left-wing party. That means that the agreement is rather robust. At the bottom I have added a short description of the phases of the Danish road planning system in order to understand at which stage the different projects are.

In addition to current ongoing projects, the following larger projects were approved last Friday:

• The Motorring 4 project, which is a widening project (from 2+2 to 3+3) was given an appropriation. Construction bill has been presented to parliament, and expected to be approved before the end of year. Project completion in 2014
• Approval of extension of the Route 18 motorway Vejle-Herning to Holstebro. Phase 1 complete and Phase 2 to be completed by late 2011, followed by a Construction bill. Construction expected to start by 2013 for completion in 2018.
• Route 23 Motorway from Holbæk to Kalundborg. Project was approved in principle in 2009, and appropriation was approved for upgrade of initial 8-9 km expressway to motorway starting from Holbæk (ongoing project to be completed in 2013). It was also agreed to launch phase 3 detailed planning and EIA of another 3 km motorway. This planning is also ongoing and expected to be complete by 2011. Now it has been agreed to go ahead with phase 3 – detailed planning and EIA - of the remaining sections to Kalundborg, and that this phase shall be completed by 2012.
• Extension of the Djursland motorway (route 15), north-east of Aarhus. Phase 2 – initial planning of widening of approx. 15 km of expressway 1+1 to 2+2 motorway. No timeframe for completion of the project.
• Route 11 Esbjerg-Tønder/border to Germany: Phase 2 – Initial Planning – and subsequent phase 3 – detailed planning and EIA –approved. No timeframe for project completion. The local press in South-Western Jutland keeps talking about a motorway. However it is directly noted that the outcome can range from minor local improvements (by-pass etc.) over 2+1 expressway to a full motorway. This will have to be seen, but motorway remains very unlikely without any plans for a motorway on the German side..
• Route 15, Herning-Ringkøbing: Phase 2 – Initial planning – approved. No specification of standard etc. 2+1 is a likely scenario.
• Route 9, Svendborg-Maribo: Phase 2 project was already previously approved. Phase 2 of the section Svendborg-Spodsbjerg speeded up to be completed by May 2011 and a phase 3 detailed planning and EIA to be launched subsequently. No specification of standard, but 2+1 expressway for some sections and 1+1 for others likely.
• Northern bypass (Route 22) of Næstved approved, including appropriation. Phase 3 almost complete and construction bill to be presented to parliament in the spring of 2011. The road will be 2+1 expressway and will be completed by 2016.
• Route 54, Rønnede (Motorway E47)- Næstved: Phase 2 initial planning already approved, but speeded up to be completed by 2012, and phase 3 detailed planning and EIA approved to be launched subsequent to completion of Phase 2 planning. No specification of standard, but previous planning carried out by now defunct County of Western Zealand pointed to a motorway, due to the amount of traffic.
• Route 22, Næstved-Slagelse: Approval of Phase 2 initial planning and subsequent phase 3 planning. No specification of standard, but 2+1 a likely outcome.




In the Danish planning/decision-making system there is 4 main phases:

1. Strategic Analysis Phase – a very general corridor analysis (skipped in many cases).
2. Initial Planning Phase – a number of possible routes identified, including initial cost estimate and traffic forecast. Proposed road standard, i.e. Motorway, 2+1 etc. (skipped in some cases where it is straights forward which standard or route/alignment to choose).
3. Detailed planning and EIA analysis – detailed route/alignment, road standard, design including detailed location and design of exits and EIA analysis (Environmental Impact Assessment)
4. Construction Bill approved by parliament. All construction projects over a certain threshold have to be approved by parliament by a special Construction Bill. The bill is based on the detailed design and EIA analysis, which is put to public hearing. When parliament has approved the bill, including routing, environmental mitigation etc. this cannot be challenged in courts, and the construction can go ahead if it is followed by a appropriation.

The system is rather rigid, and the entire process can take many years, usually at 10 years or more from start until the projects is ready. The projecs are examined between every phase, whether to go on. But as seen from the projects above, pre-decisions to go on to next phase can also happen. No rules without exceptions, but generally when a project has been launched – at least if it has reached phase 2 – it will be eventually come through.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 07:57 PM   #703
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• Route 11 Esbjerg-Tønder/border to Germany: Phase 2 – Initial Planning – and subsequent phase 3 – detailed planning and EIA –approved. No timeframe for project completion. The local press in South-Western Jutland keeps talking about a motorway. However it is directly noted that the outcome can range from minor local improvements (by-pass etc.) over 2+1 expressway to a full motorway. This will have to be seen, but motorway remains very unlikely without any plans for a motorway on the German side..
Thx Nikolaj, for a good and detailed report on the upcomming plans in Denmark. Concerning the A11, I guess there´s more decided on the German side than published by the press. A small hint can be seen here.:

http://infrastruktur-vestkysten.net/de_home.phtml

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Old November 30th, 2010, 10:33 AM   #704
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Thx Nikolaj, for a good and detailed report on the upcomming plans in Denmark. Concerning the A11, I guess there´s more decided on the German side than published by the press. A small hint can be seen here.:

http://infrastruktur-vestkysten.net/de_home.phtml

I agree with You that local municipalities surely are working behind the stage to promote a motorway from Esbjerg to Heide. But they do not decide such a project. That is only Berlin and Copenhagen who can do that. And if you look at what is stated from the federal ministry in Berlin and even the Ministry in Kiel (Schleswig-Holstein) there is no indication that Germany is planning anything but a by-pass around Bredstedt and some upgrading to 2+1. That is why I maintain that unless anything else is on e the table from Berlin, there is no reason for Denmark to construct a motorway to Tønder. A 2+1 or local upgrading can easily do the trick.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:35 PM   #705
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Widening with extra lane in just 85 days

The widening of northbound E45 between the Limfjordstunnel and Motorwayinterchange Vendsyssel (E39 and E45) from 2 to 3 lanes was opened yesterday Dec. 1st. That means that the construction was accomplished in just 85 days, as the projects was launched 24th of September.

The southbound carriageway was already widened to 3 lanes, 2 years ago. The widening includes shoulders, but the top-asphalt will only be applied next spring.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:36 PM   #706
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The widening of northbound E45 between the Limfjordstunnel and Motorwayinterchange Vendsyssel (E39 and E45) from 2 to 3 lanes was opened yesterday Dec. 1st. That means that the construction was accomplished in just 85 days, as the projects was launched 24th of September.

The southbound carriageway was already widened to 3 lanes, 2 years ago. The widening includes shoulders, but the top-asphalt will only be applied next spring.
Sorry, the project was commenced 6th September
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 04:40 PM   #707
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Too bad you didn't beat the Dutch record of 69 days

Still, a nice achievement. If you don't have to expand overpasses or bridges, a road widening can be executed pretty quickly.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 06:14 PM   #708
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What, I drove there last sunday and it was nowhere near finished.. Efficient to say the least!
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 06:20 PM   #709
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Old December 6th, 2010, 09:27 AM   #710
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wow, living in the center.. so always take the bridge..

I am gonna have a look 2day!
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Old December 7th, 2010, 10:16 AM   #711
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Yesterday the Danish minister of transport presented a new test of spikes in the motorway ramps, in an attempt to stop the increasing number of ghost drivers, first you meet this sign.:



If you pass that, then your tires meet these spikes.:





Videoclip.:

http://www.tv2fyn.dk/article/267146:...gelsesbilister

The minister wants these spikes installed all over the country, and will now negotiate the investment with the other parties. Each unit costs dkr 175.000,- and the costs nationwide will be around dkr 100 mio.

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Old December 7th, 2010, 10:18 AM   #712
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What if emergency services need to enter the motorway from the exit in the wrong direction?
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Old December 7th, 2010, 10:36 AM   #713
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What if emergency services need to enter the motorway from the exit in the wrong direction?
The system is activated by sensors in the asphalt, so I guess there are some kind of electronic bypass for such situations. But thats only my guess.

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In the video they say the spikes are held down using what I assume is an electromagnet; what happens if the power is cut?
You´re right, but I´m very much afraid that this person is not a specialist in electric installations. It must be the other way round, when the electromagnet is energized the spikes flips up, anything else would be nonsense.

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Is there any statistical data on how frequent such incidents are in different EU countries or in the US?
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Old December 10th, 2010, 11:16 AM   #716
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Is there any statistical data on how frequent such incidents are in different EU countries or in the US?
Just a few weeks ago 3 "kids" were killed in a simmilar accident in Budapest, Hungary
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Is there any statistical data on how frequent such incidents are in different EU countries or in the US?
Don't know about statistical data, but will say that the problem of "Wrong Way" driving on motorways seems to be more prevalent in Europe, than N. America. The incidents I know about, all involve elderly drivers.
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Is there any statistical data on how frequent such incidents are in different EU countries or in the US?
The Danish figures are like this.:

Year Registered incidents
2000 35
2001 37
2002 56
2003 56
2004 50
2005 65
2006 91
2007 160
2008 192
2009 163
2010 154 so far

Numbers from Trm.dk



End december this year, a report from DTU (Danish Technical University) should tell what type of persons, these ghost drivers are. But the numbers above shows an increasing problem, that simply has to be stopped. And my hope is those tiger spikes, will do the trick.:

http://politiken.tv/nyheder/videnska...ilisters-daek/

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Or a better registration...
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The minister wants these spikes installed all over the country, and will now negotiate the investment with the other parties. Each unit costs dkr 175.000,- and the costs nationwide will be around dkr 100 mio.

Why not spend those money on new and less ambiguous entrance and exit ramps?
thats probably the reason for this problem.

Also if you keep drug-addicts and 90 year olds of the motorway these events will decrease in numbers.
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