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Old August 12th, 2011, 09:55 PM   #881
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The same for this bridge, it carries the train service from København to Hamburg. It will be widened to double track of the Fehmarnbelt Tunnel is constructed, however I wonder how they will do it on the existing bridge. It appears to me a new bridge needs to be constructed. Another option is to build a new road bridge and use the entire existing bridge for rail.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 10:35 PM   #882
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I always thought the train from Kopenhagen to Hamburg uses the Scandlines ferry from Rödby to Puttgarden. I sometimes see that train on the cardeck.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 10:42 PM   #883
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I always thought the train from Kopenhagen to Hamburg uses the Scandlines ferry from Rödby to Puttgarden. I sometimes see that train on the cardeck.
Most of the trains from Copenhagen to Hamburg use the ferry from Rödby to Puttgarden. But the night trains from Denmark to Germany are going over Great Belt and Little Belt. All freight trains from Denmark to Germany are going over Great Belt and Little Belt.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 10:46 PM   #884
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Ah, ok.
I never use any of these bridges. It's just as fast and expensive to use the ferry from Puttgarden to Rödby and Helsingör to Helsingborg.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 10:59 PM   #885
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Ah, ok.
I never use any of these bridges. It's just as fast and expensive to use the ferry from Puttgarden to Rödby and Helsingör to Helsingborg.
I never use the ferry from Helsingborg to Helsingör. I only use the Öresund bridge from Malmö to Copenhagen.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #886
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Not much difference in time and price, seeing that we get the "Sweden Ticket" at Puttgarden.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 11:23 PM   #887
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I always thought the train from Kopenhagen to Hamburg uses the Scandlines ferry from Rödby to Puttgarden. I sometimes see that train on the cardeck.
Yep, and they also use the Storstrøm Bridge (which is between Sjælland and Falster).

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Not much difference in time and price, seeing that we get the "Sweden Ticket" at Puttgarden.
That's correct. Overall, it makes little difference in time and money to take the ferries or the bridges. However, with a diesel car, the bridges tend to be somewhat cheaper because you spend less on fuel for the detour. But the difference is usually not that big. I guess it's your personal taste to take the bridges or the ferry.

I always use the bridges, first of all because they're awesome to drive across, and second of all, I don't like to be tied to reservation times and/or not knowing if there is a space for you on the next ferry. The only times I went via the ferries in that area was an overnighter by truck. Travemünde - Trelleborg and Malmö - Travemünde back.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 11:33 PM   #888
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I don't like to be tied to reservation times and/or not knowing if there is a space for you on the next ferry.
On Scandlines there is always room for you. Ferries between Puttgarden and Rödby, and Helsingör and Helsingborg run average every 20 minutes - crossing time between Germany and Denmark 45 minutes, and between Denmark and Sweden 20 minutes. My boss books it over the internet, picks out a random time, and it's up to us if we want to make it on that particular ferry or not. Tickets are usually valid for one year anyway. I like using those ferries, good excuse to stop for a coffee. And food on the German-Danish ferries is exellent!

Edit: There is no detour if you're travelling to for example Stockholm using the above mentioned ferries. Copenhagen to Helsingor runs parallel from Malmö to Helsingborg, which you're passing anyway on your way to Stockholm.
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On Scandlines there is always room for you. Ferries between Puttgarden and Rödby, and Helsingör and Helsingborg run average every 20 minutes - crossing time between Germany and Denmark 45 minutes, and between Denmark and Sweden 20 minutes. My boss books it over the internet, picks out a random time, and it's up to us if we want to make it on that particular ferry or not. Tickets are usually valid for one year anyway. I like using those ferries, good excuse to stop for a coffee. And food on the German-Danish ferries is exellent!

Edit: There is no detour if you're travelling to for example Stockholm using the above mentioned ferries. Copenhagen to Helsingor runs parallel from Malmö to Helsingborg, which you're passing anyway on your way to Stockholm.
If I go from Stockholm to Germany I take the bridge over Öresund from Malmö to Copenhagen and the bridge over Great Belt from Korsör to Nyborg. No ferry.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 12:12 AM   #890
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Never been on any of these bridges. Always use Scandlines.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #891
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My latest and probably last video of Denmark from this year's Easter trip.

The Primærrute 16 - Hillerød Motorway in greater Copenhagen.

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Old August 15th, 2011, 02:17 PM   #892
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The same for this bridge, it carries the train service from København to Hamburg. It will be widened to double track of the Fehmarnbelt Tunnel is constructed, however I wonder how they will do it on the existing bridge. It appears to me a new bridge needs to be constructed. Another option is to build a new road bridge and use the entire existing bridge for rail.
Not correct. The Railway across The Storstrøm will remain single track, even after completion of the Fehmarnbelt Tunnel. It will be the only section of single track between Copenhagen and the Fehmarnbelt Tunnel. Remaining section will be double track and electrified. It is not yet decided if the railway between Ringsted and Rødby (Fehmarnbelt tunnel) - except for the bridge across the Storstrøm - will be upgraded to 160 or 200 km/h. Between Copenhagen and Ringsted a new 60 km 250 km/h railway is being constructed.
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 01:30 PM   #893
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Congestion charging in CPH?

There's an article in a Swedish newspaper today about possible future congestion charge in Copenhagen. According to the article a congestion charge, simular to what we have in Stockholm, would be implemented in Copenhagen in case there's a change of government after the election.

I know there's been talk of road pricing in Denmark before, but how fast could this be implemented? The article I saw mentioned a high figure, something like 11 000 DKK/year for those who commute every day.
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 03:31 PM   #894
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Is there actually severe congestion there, or is it just an easy way to add more taxes?
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Old August 24th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #895
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Yes, the Social democrats want to implement congestions charge in CPH. The fee would be 25 DKK per entry during rush hours, less on other times.

Here's map of the area and control points.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...d&ll=55.701775


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Is there actually severe congestion there, or is it just an easy way to add more taxes?
If you ask me, there is no congestion in Copenhagen. Some danish politicians tend to think that waiting a few minutes at red light is congestion. If compared to other cities in Europe it is a joke to talk about congestion in CPH.

Instead i think they will get a lot more problems after implementing this system, due to drivers finding alternative routes, PT not able to cope with extra passengers, etc. Already now using PT during bad weather days is a nightmare. So it is all a big scam imo.
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Old August 24th, 2011, 11:45 AM   #896
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Yes, the Social democrats want to implement congestions charge in CPH. The fee would be 25 DKK per entry during rush hours, less on other times.

Here's map of the area and control points.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...d&ll=55.701775




If you ask me, there is no congestion in Copenhagen. Some danish politicians tend to think that waiting a few minutes at red light is congestion. If compared to other cities in Europe it is a joke to talk about congestion in CPH.

Instead i think they will get a lot more problems after implementing this system, due to drivers finding alternative routes, PT not able to cope with extra passengers, etc. Already now using PT during bad weather days is a nightmare. So it is all a big scam imo.
If they implement the same system as in Stockholm, it can be ignored by drivers of foreign registered vehicles. The amount of times I've driven through Stockholm city centre, in my English registered van... It says 20 SK on the displays, but I wouldn't even know where to pay it. So I keep going - catch that ferry to Finland...
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Old August 24th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #897
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If they implement the same system as in Stockholm, it can be ignored by drivers of foreign registered vehicles. The amount of times I've driven through Stockholm city centre, in my English registered van... It says 20 SK on the displays, but I wouldn't even know where to pay it. So I keep going - catch that ferry to Finland...
That's because the congestion charge in Stockholm is technically a tax... so far they haven't been able to figure how to tax foreign nationals.

The Danes, however, seem to have found a way around that problem. To bad for all the Swedes commuting over the bridge everyday... do they get to vote on this?
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Old August 24th, 2011, 11:49 PM   #898
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These leftish politicians have their brains filled with void. Just taking advantage of high life standard to impose ridiculous taxes...
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Old August 27th, 2011, 06:17 PM   #899
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A couple of years ago it was established that there was a huge maintenance backlog on the Danish motorways and other main roads. As a result The Road Directorate (Vejdirektoratet) has received substantial extra funds from government for maintenance over the period 2010-2013. Large part of the network has therefor been renovated over the past couple of years - or will be until 2013. The extra funds are allocated to to surface maintenance - new asphalt layer - and for extra bridge maintenance. Ot is expected that the maintenance backlog will be a thing of the past by 2013.
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