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Old July 1st, 2012, 12:53 PM   #981
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Today 12 years ago


July 1, 2000: the Øresund Bridge opens to traffic, linking Denmark and Sweden.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 12:43 AM   #982
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What about the upcoming route 21 expressway? Is it going to be a 2+2 or a single one? Big signs indicate that the danish goverment gives 1.6 billion DKK to this project. I saw these signs last weekend and last summer as well!
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Old July 5th, 2012, 12:44 AM   #983
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Probably Holbæk-west - Vig expressway?
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Old July 5th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #984
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Probably Holbæk-west - Vig expressway?
It will be 2+1 expressway, and the first Danish one with a cable barrier in the median. Cable barriers has been a no-go i Denmark since mid-90'es with some motorway accidents, where it was claimed that the cable barrier was the cause. All cable barriers/guardrails on Danish motorways were replaced with the usual steel guardrails, which since that has been standard equipment.
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Old August 7th, 2012, 04:03 PM   #985
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PR-21 Holbæk Motorway

The widening of the Primærrute 21 - Holbæk Motorway - has been completed this weekend. The motorway has been widened from 2x2 to 2x3 lanes, partially also 2x4 lanes. The widening took 3 years and has cost 2.2 billion DKK / € 295 million for 11 kilometers.

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Old August 8th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #986
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I was thinking about expressways. Most countries have 4-lane, grade-separated expressways. Denmark doesn't have such roads to my knowledge, except maybe for a short section of Primærrute 9 in Svendborg. Is there a particular reason for this "all or nothing" phenomenon?

I'm not aware of any 4-lane, divided & grade-separated motortrafikvejer.
South of Viborg, RNR 26; Hillerød, RNR 19 are other examples
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Old August 13th, 2012, 02:33 PM   #987
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South of Viborg, RNR 26; Hillerød, RNR 19 are other examples
Route 26 south of Viborg is not an expressway (motortrafikvej). It has dual carriageway (4-lanes), but only partly grade separated.

Route 19 around Hlillerød is an expressway (motortrafikvej), but not dual carriageway (as far as i remember)
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Old August 13th, 2012, 03:02 PM   #988
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Primærrute 19 is a 1x2 / 2+1 road near Hillerød. The 2x2 section starts at the southern exit of Allerød. Motorway status also begins at this point.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #989
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Are you confusing route 19 with 16? Route 19 does not pass very close to Allerød, and is only briefly 2x2 at one or two grade separated intersections. Route 19 goes north of Hillerød. It is signed as a 'motortrafikvej', and it does have sections that are not grade separated.
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Old August 13th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #990
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You're right.

Primærrute 19 has only a very short 2x2 section at the PR6 interchange. It's less than 500 meters long.

There is also a 2x2, grade-separated section of Primærrute 9 in Svendborg. It's not motorway status, but also not an expressway.

I think that would establish there are no 2x2, grade-separated expressways in Denmark?
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Sounds right to me. As to your original question about why this is; as I see it, the purpose of designating a road a motorway or an expressway is to indicate to drivers that special conditions apply, so you see the motorway sign, and you know that a different maximum speed is allowed than on the general road network, and that no stopping is allowed, for example. An expressway is the same just with slightly different (worse) conditions and hence a lower speed, but still sufficiently different design speeds from the general road network that special rules apply. Different countries put the standards for expressways at different levels, in Denmark a 'motortrafikvej' is just a bit closer in design to an ordinary main road than it is in, say, Poland, where the differences also seem to cover factors other than the technical features of the road.
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Old August 14th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #992
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PR-15 Bording - Funder

August 31 is the opening date for 12 kilometers of Primærrute 15 between Bording and Funder, between the larger cities of Herning and Silkeborg. This is a 2x2 motorway and part of the larger Silkeborg bypass which is currently under construction.



The new motorway includes the Funder Ådalsbro, the largest land bridge in Denmark. It spans 740 meters and is 30 meters high. I took a photo of it last year:
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Old August 14th, 2012, 09:51 PM   #993
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I don't think it was mentioned here but in week 30 another 8 ½ KM of motorway was opened on route 18 on the strech between Ølholm and Riis (10 ½ KM). The last 2 km, and the final strech to Vejle, will open late 2013.

The news in Danish: Nu åbner del af motorvej mellem Riis og Ølholm
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that infamous road that already looked like a motorway.

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I've read an interesting story about it. Apparently there was a maze in Danish road law, that a divided highway not necessarily meant a central divider or 2x2 lanes. So when they contracted to build a motorway, the contractor built this 1x2 road with a very narrow gap between both lanes (1 cm, just visible on the photo). The Danish government sued the contractor because he only built half a motorway, but the contractor eventually won the case. After that, the road law was amended.

Not sure if this is true though. It would've been a truly unique case.
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Old August 14th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #995
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I don't think it was mentioned here but in week 30 another 8 ½ KM of motorway was opened on route 18 on the strech between Ølholm and Riis (10 ½ KM). The last 2 km, and the final strech to Vejle, will open late 2013.
not the final.. Around Brande is under construction to!! Then the motorway to Herning is finished
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Oh yes of course. Was thinking of the final part from the newly opened part to E45.
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Today 12 years ago
July 1, 2000: the Øresund Bridge opens to traffic, linking Denmark and Sweden.
This year traffic is decreasing drastically on the bridge, mainly because of the number of danes/swedes living or working in either DK/S is declining.

The highest numbers of cars passing through was in the year 2006.

This also concerns the railway traffic. I dont think anything changed on the Stora Bält-Bridge, is traffic increasing ? At least that bridge is not dependent on
commuters and economic change.
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I happened to check out the numbers last week.

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Old August 15th, 2012, 01:39 PM   #1000
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that infamous road that already looked like a motorway.

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PR18-13 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

I've read an interesting story about it. Apparently there was a maze in Danish road law, that a divided highway not necessarily meant a central divider or 2x2 lanes. So when they contracted to build a motorway, the contractor built this 1x2 road with a very narrow gap between both lanes (1 cm, just visible on the photo). The Danish government sued the contractor because he only built half a motorway, but the contractor eventually won the case. After that, the road law was amended.

Not sure if this is true though. It would've been a truly unique case.
I am afraid that this story can best be described as a hoax.
In the Construcion Bill (bill no. 1998/483 - approved by Parliament July 1st, 1998) it was clearly stated that the road is to be constructed as a Motortrafikvej https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms....aspx?id=87616
Further in the notes to the the proposed bill https://www.retsinformation.dk/Forms....aspx?id=81398
it is noted that the road shall be a 2-lane motortrafikvej with a total width of 15 m (Vejen anlægges som facadeløs to-sporet motortrafikvej med 8,0 m bred kørebane og 2,5 m brede nødspor, i alt 15 m kronebredde).
After some deliberation it was accepted by the then Minister of Transport, who was fiercely against motorways that the bridges on the new motortrafikvej should be prepared for a future widening to a full motorway.
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