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Old June 23rd, 2014, 11:40 AM   #1501
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The HH ferries carries about 6000 vehicles a day. 50% of all trucks choose the ferries prior to the bridge. Maybe the truckers need a rest ?
According to http://www.vejdirektoratet.dk/DA/vid...ogntrafik.aspx

The HH ferries carried 1200 trucks, buses etc per day in 2012 out of a total traffic of around 6000 a day, while the Øresund Fixed Link carries 1900 trucks, buses etc. a day out of a total of 18.500 (2012-figures).

The HH ferry company is owned by Scandlines, which is a private company (owned 50/50 by 3i Group PLC - a British private equity and venture capital company - and Allianz Capital Partners), and as such they want to maximize their profit. And with no other competing ferry company and a Bridge company that charge as they do - they can charge the price they want. Scandlines is a hugely profitable company with 2 cash-cows HH ferries and Rødby-Puttgarden. They don't want to miss especially the Rødby-Puttgarden one, and that is why they are trying various legal steps to try delaying the Femern Belt Fixed Link.

Scandlines used to be owned jointly by the Danish and German state railway companies (DSB and DB), but was privatized in 2007. On the HH crossing there used to be another competing ferry company, but they where bought by Scandlines after the opening of the Øresund Fixed Link.
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Old June 23rd, 2014, 07:53 PM   #1502
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Primary Route 17, Frederikssund Motorway

A few photos of Primary Route 17, also known as the Frederikssund Motorway in the western suburbs of Copenhagen. It runs from Motorring 3 to O4 and was completed as a motorway in late 2011. The Ballerup motorway interchange opened in April 2014 at the current configuration.



PR-17-1 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr


PR-17-2 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

Motorvejkryds Rødovre.

PR-17-3 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr


PR-17-4 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr


PR-17-5 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

Ejby

PR-17-6 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr


PR-17-7 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr


PR-17-8 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr


PR-17-9 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr


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PR-17-11 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr
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Old June 25th, 2014, 03:52 PM   #1503
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A few good news

A political decision on a number of motorway and road projects has been announced by the Minister of Transport.http://www.trm.dk/~/media/Files/Publ...uni%202014.pdf

Next section (6 km) of the Kalundborg Motorway (Route 23) has been approved. EIA has been carried out and funds for the projectare allocated /appropriated

Motorway (route 54) from Rønnede (Motorway E47) has been approved. EIA to be finalized. Funds allocated/appropriated for first section - approx. 6 km

Alignment of new western motorway around Aalborg (E39) - approx. 20 km - has been approved (includes a tunnel under the Limfjord). EIA has been carried out. Funds for land compensation allocated/appropriated.

Alignment of first section of Aarhus-Viborg motorway (route 26) from E45 to Søby (21 km) has been approved. EIA has been carried out. Funds for land compensation allocated/appropriated.

And a few other minor projects...

No decision on a central Jutland Motorway from Hobro (E45) to Christiansfeld (E45), but noted that it is a promising project where further investigation is needed in order to decide alignment (3 corridors investigated)
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Old June 25th, 2014, 09:23 PM   #1504
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Some smaller projects in the Access/exit ramp section



E45 Østjyske Motorvej: Southbound ramps at 53 Skanderborg S
E45 Østjyske Motorvej: Rebuilding of 49 Aarhus S
E45 Østjyske Motorvej: New exit/access between Horsens V and Horsens S

E45 Sønderjyske Motorvej: New exit/access at Ødisvej in Kolding Kommune

E20 Vestmotorvejen: Eastbound ramps at 33 Vemmedrup
E20 Vestmotorvejen: Eastbound ramps at 41 Tjæreby (Vemmelev)

Rute 21 Holbækmotorvejen: Westbound ramps at 6 Høje Taastrup C
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Old June 30th, 2014, 02:48 PM   #1505
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11 km motorway to open one year before envisaged

Vejdirektoratet has announced today http://www.vejdirektoratet.dk/DA/om-...3%B8r-tid.aspx that 11 km of the Route 15 motorway from Låsby to Hårup will open one year ahead of time.

It was planned that the motorway should open late 2015, but now it will open late 2014. The exact date will be announced at a later time.
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Old June 30th, 2014, 04:23 PM   #1506
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Danish road projects seem to be managed pretty well. Many are completed on time or ahead of schedule.
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Old June 30th, 2014, 05:08 PM   #1507
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How are the widening works on the E20 east of the Little Belt Bridge going?
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Old June 30th, 2014, 05:23 PM   #1508
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The project is ahead of schedule. The southern carriageway is finished and they are now working on the northern carriageway.

E20 Eastbound:

E20 Norre Aaby by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

There are roadworks on the Little Belt Bridge, and it gets congested on Friday afternoons. There are also roadworks on E20/45 around Kolding for the new shoulder running, I was stuck in traffic there 2 weeks ago. There was a 10 kilometer queue of slow traffic (alternating between 1st and 2nd gear), first because of the merge of E20 and E45 traffic, and then because of the roadworks. It didn't get free-flow until I reached Kolding-Vest.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 07:20 PM   #1509
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Helsingør - Helsingborg connection

A Helsingør - Helsingborg connection (H-H forbindelsen) is economically feasible and is viable as a user paid connection, Jyllands Posten reports:

http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/tr...-sig-selv-ind/

However, having two mega projects at the same time is too much to handle for the current government.

http://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/tr...oeresundsplan/
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 08:17 PM   #1510
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However, having two mega projects at the same time is too much to handle for the current government.
I guess they will build the HH connection first, won't they? The planning procedure for the Fehmarnbelt crossing will last decades....
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Old July 4th, 2014, 10:17 AM   #1511
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A question for the danish drivers.

If you were supposed to drive from Copenhagen to Stralsund/Rugen, Germany what route would you choose ?

I am on Rugen right now and here are danish tourists. I eavesdropped that some of the danes actually drove through Sweden to get here. Would you pick the Öresund bridge and the Trelleborg-Sassnitz 4h ferry to get to Rugen ? or would you drive south and take the Gedser-Rostock ferry ?
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Old July 4th, 2014, 02:00 PM   #1512
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I guess they will build the HH connection first, won't they? The planning procedure for the Fehmarnbelt crossing will last decades....
But HH planning haven't even started

The situation with the HH link is in away parallel to the Fehmern link.

Denmark wants the Femern Link, but Germany to the south is reluctant.

Sweden wants the HH Link, but Denmark to the south is more than reluctant.

On both issues it is a matter of getting a better connection to the continent/Germany and not the other way.

Danish politicians don't support a HH link because they don't want toencounter the problems of new motorway/railways through Northern Zealand, which is the most affluent area in Denmark, with a lot of our-spoken people (including themselves), and they certainly don't want to pay for something that will cause them nothing but troubles.

If a HH link ever is coming through, it will probably be on the condition that Sweden, or the users of the fixed link, pay for the needed land connections.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 01:11 PM   #1513
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Why would DK even want to build another link with the mostly failed link we already got?
That would be crazy to waste even more money and it's only use would be Swedes and continental fright anyway.

You guys might not know the full story, the Political Hack sparking this BS is no other then the well known to be mega Danish and Scania hater PM Freddie from Täby( Stockholm suburb). He made the comments at this political even on Gotland, here politicians from all party's try to scream over each-other for 1 week.
Sincerity level is usually about 0.01%

Anyway back at the beginning of his 2nd term in office in 2010 he tried to up the price on the already existing and already very expensive Öresund bridge to finance his local Förbifart Stockholm project, thank god the new parliament members in the Sweden Democrats saved us that time by voting down the proposal.
He made this proposal knowing how important the bridge is to commuters and bizz in Scania and CPH, he even went so far as to demanded Scania members of his own party should support it or not vote at all, these politicians are voted in by local voters here to get representation in parliament.
Psycho much?

And now 2014 its elections again so what do we see, some lame zero heart ridiculous vague comment about a new link...after years if silence and even anti-Örsund real vote Yes or no proposal.

Danish politicians already are and rightfully should be extremely wary of our current government, they have a long record of anti-Danish statements and actions.

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Old July 6th, 2014, 05:32 PM   #1514
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The swedish PM and his goverment for the last 8 years is trustworthy when it comes to investing in infra projects. They have raised the investment in road projects a lot and thanx to them soon Sweden will have a system of motorways connecting all the three major cities including the E6 to Oslo.

The only chance for a HH connection to be realized is if the the Swedish PM will get 4 more years in power. If the left wing parties win the election this autum allmost all major road projects will be halted.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 06:37 PM   #1515
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Luls, wat?
Some places has gotten money for roads yeah sure but never before in modern times have so little in % of GDP gone to infrastructure.

And that is with them viscously plundering of the nations assets, Absolute Vodka, Nordea + more sold, Vattenfall robbed of tens of billions and is now deeply in dept.


Anyway chance for a HH link is zero (lower with this gov)and that's fine, we are talking about a cute outer CPH suburb and a 100K semi-industrial town that is mostly focusing on Lund/Malmö, everybody will be fine without this.

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Do you have some facts to back you up? The latest infra plan (2014-2025) is 20 % bigger then the last one, and the one before that (2010-2021) was 15 % bigger than the other one before that. And what have the fact that the Swedish state no longer own factories that produce vodka have to do with anything?

You´re arguents is based on your opinions, and that´s fine. But that have zero to do with infrastructure that is all based on hard facts, plans and resources.

A red and green goverment will stop all major infra projects, including the HH link, except for perhaps some high speed rail projects.

Btw, the value of the assets of the Swedish state is now bigger than it was when the sitting goverment came to power. Just look it up.
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Sweden is spending 30% more on infrastructure (% of GDP) than Finland for example. http://portal.liikennevirasto.fi/siv...och%20_sverige
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Old July 7th, 2014, 01:29 AM   #1518
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Do you have some facts to back you up? The latest infra plan (2014-2025) is 20 % bigger then the last one, and the one before that (2010-2021) was 15 % bigger than the other one before that. And what have the fact that the Swedish state no longer own factories that produce vodka have to do with anything?

You´re arguents is based on your opinions, and that´s fine. But that have zero to do with infrastructure that is all based on hard facts, plans and resources.

A red and green goverment will stop all major infra projects, including the HH link, except for perhaps some high speed rail projects.

Btw, the value of the assets of the Swedish state is now bigger than it was when the sitting goverment came to power. Just look it up.
Relax, Freddie will lose no matter what so save your energy, and its funny you might take me for a leftie but I'm as conservative as the come..
Anyway my point about the state sale(yeah sale is the right word as the got cents in the dollars worth when they sold) was that you seems to be impressed by their spending on infra? Well their spending is pocket change when you look at what they actually sold off from the nations inheritance + high, high taxes. Tax on fuel is much higher then before this "right wing" government took over for example, look it up as you say.
Any fool can run such a gov, just sell assets and keep mismanage ppls money? Nah not cool, I don't mind selling company's but not to use for daily expenses like they've done.


To get back to topic, as far I know Helsingör is not even too exited about a link, that's when you something is wrong. DK is also smarter then to build a link only serving others, and no way we pay for it all so not happening.
And thats fine, now the castle Kronoborg is left alone and Helsingborg will be fine, the ferry line is also kinda cool, to take a "fika" on board after a long drive is the best.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 06:26 PM   #1519
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Sweden is spending 30% more on infrastructure (% of GDP) than Finland for example. http://portal.liikennevirasto.fi/siv...och%20_sverige
No reason to compare to Finland. Finland is ramping its road infrastructure down. The wealthy Finland cannot afford maintaining the infrastructure the poor Finland built after the WWII.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 07:22 PM   #1520
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What the government (Alliansen) did is that they spent the money they made on selling companies on lowering the national state dept. In reality the dept is around 150 billions lower than eight years ago. 200 billion kronor is lended to riksbanken from riksgalden as a buffert but can be transfered back at any time and that will lower the national state dept in an instance. www.riksgalden.se is a good place to read if you want to learn more about that.

Not only Sweden is interested in a HH-link, Norway too would benifit from better comunications with Europe, and in part Finland. But I agree with you about taking a "fika" on the ferry, that´s much nicer than riding in a tunnel ;-)
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