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Old November 16th, 2014, 11:04 AM   #2201
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The 17km E4 section Sk÷nsmons ľ Myre is expected to be opened today at 3PM, see press release.
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Old November 16th, 2014, 01:29 PM   #2202
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E20 Íresund Bridge

Some photos of the Íresund Bridge, from Denmark to Sweden.

1. We start at the artificial island of Peberholm, which connects the Drogden Tunnel to the Íresund Bridge. This island is entirely in Denmark.

E20 Oresund Bridge-1 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

2. Sverige!

E20 Oresund Bridge-2 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

3. The main bridge is fully located in Sweden.

E20 Oresund Bridge-3 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

4. The speed limit on the bridge is 110 km/h, which is the standard motorway speed limit in Sweden (though some stretches allow 120 km/h).

E20 Oresund Bridge-4 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

5. Fact: The annual sunshine in Malm÷ is 200 hours more than in Copenhagen, which was also visible this day, as I drove from cloudy Copenhagen to sunny Skňne.

E20 Oresund Bridge-5 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

6. The toll station

E20 Oresund Bridge-6 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

7.

E20 Oresund Bridge-7 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

8. Ç 46 please. The exchange rate to euros is a bit more favorable with Swedish crowns than with Danish crowns. I did not have any cash crowns on my trip, as I was just passing through and paid with bank card everywhere.

E20 Oresund Bridge-8 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr
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Old November 17th, 2014, 12:06 AM   #2203
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A 17 kilometer new stretch of E4 opens to traffic near Sundsvall, Sweden. It runs from Myre to Sundsvall/Sk÷nsmon, though the first few kilometers from Myre is not a four-lane highway.

The bridge across the Sundsvall Fjord will open to traffic next month, completing the E4 Sundsvall bypass.

http://www.trafikverket.se/Privat/Pr...Myre-Skonsmon/
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The project was opening around 1 year before schedule.

Following links are from the local newspaper covering the opening today:

Video with the first cars:
http://www.st.nu/medelpad/sundsvall/...vem-blir-forst

Article:
http://www.st.nu/medelpad/sundsvall/...nst-20-minuter

Asking me, the new road layout into town will be a subject of discussion in the future... Insuffient!

The next upgrade of E4 Stockholm - Sundsvall will be E4 at Gnarp, a stretch of 22 km, situated around 40 km south of central Sundsvall. Its planned to start in 2017 and will probably be constructed with the Swedish standard "2+1".

http://www.trafikverket.se/Privat/Pr...eborg/E4Gnarp/

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Old November 17th, 2014, 07:17 PM   #2204
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Here's a video showing the whole stretch in both directions (horrible trance music included).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-vZHMICUc
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Old November 18th, 2014, 12:00 PM   #2205
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Some photos of the Íresund Bridge, from Denmark to Sweden.
Does someone know how much the annual maintenance cost of the Íresund bridge is ? In 1999 it was calculated to be 200 million SEK. (22 million euro)
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Old November 18th, 2014, 12:03 PM   #2206
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Here's a video showing the whole stretch in both directions (horrible trance music included).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_-vZHMICUc
Just some general tips when it comes to these kinds of videos. First obviously turn the music off and choose your own. More
importantly, go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 get the
html5 player and under settings where you normally change the quality change the speed to 2x.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 04:12 PM   #2207
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Does someone know how much the annual maintenance cost of the Íresund bridge is ? In 1999 it was calculated to be 200 million SEK. (22 million euro)
According to Annual report of A/S ěresund, the maintenance and operational cost of the ěresund Fixed Link was 290,8 mio. DKK in 2013 http://www.e-pages.dk/sundblt/137/

The ěresund Fixed Link is owned and operated by the ěresundskonsortiet, which is 50/50 owned by A/S ěresund and SVEDAB. SVEDAB is 100% owned by the Swedish Government, and A/S ěresund is 100 % owned by Sund & BŠlt Holding A/S, which again is owned 100 % by the Danish Government.

In addition to ěresund A/S, Sund & BŠlt Holding A/S has a 100% stake in A/S StorebŠlt and A/S Femern.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:09 PM   #2208
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According to Annual report of A/S ěresund, the maintenance and operational cost of the ěresund Fixed Link was 290,8 mio. DKK in 2013 http://www.e-pages.dk/sundblt/137/
any info on yearly maintenance costs only ?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 12:14 PM   #2209
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any info on yearly maintenance costs only ?
Not directly.
Looking into the annual report of the ěresundskonsortiet it self http://uk.oresundsbron.com/page/1085 , the only detail given is on p. 23 where Total Cost of DKK 561,3 mio. (2013) is divided into: Other operating Cost DKK 176,1 Mio, Staff Cost DKK 114,7 Mio, Depreciation of road and rail link: DKK 243,3 Mio. and Depreciation of other fixtures and fittings, plant and equipment: DKK 27,2 Mio.

I think Other Operating Cost of DKK 176,1 is the closest you get to the actual maintenance cost of the bridge. The item staff cost is primarily related to running the toll booths, as they do not run there own maintenance operation, but rely on outside companies. Some of the staff cost - off course - is related to management and planning of maintenance, and should thus be included in maintenance. On the other hand- some of the "Other Operating Cost" are related to maintenance of the toll facility, so again i think the cost item "Other Operating Cost" is probably the closest you get.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 12:26 PM   #2210
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Who operates the toll booths, A/S ěresund or ěresundbro konsortiet?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 12:45 PM   #2211
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I think Other Operating Cost of DKK 176,1 is the closest you get to the actual maintenance cost of the bridge.
176 million DKK a year ? meaning 218 million SEK that is slighly more than the predicted cost in 1999.

Maybe the maintenance costs of the bridge increase each year because the concrete is getting older.

Would be interesting to know how long it would take for the bridge to collapse if there was no maintennance at all ?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 01:06 PM   #2212
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There has been quite some inflation since 1999. At what price levels were the maintenance costs forecasted in 1999?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 02:10 PM   #2213
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Who operates the toll booths, A/S ěresund or ěresundbro konsortiet?
ěresundskonsortiet is the operator of the fixed link, and as such the one who operates the toll booths.

A/S ěresund is the Danish 50 % parent of ěresundskonsortiet, and not directly involved in running the Fixed link (coast-to coast).

But in addition to being the 50 % parent of the ěresundskonsortiet, A/S ěresund is also the infrastructure owner and operator of the Danish hinterland connection for rail and motorway - from the coast to the existing network. For the motorway that is E20 from Exit Copenhagen C (20) to the ěresund coast, and for the rail connection from the ěresund coast to Copenhagen Central Station. Running costs and repayment of the debt incurred through construction for the hinterland road and rail connection is funded by profits received by A/S ěresund from ěresundskonsortiet + plus a separate rail fee from the train operators.

Debt for the coast-to cost construction is placed in the ěresundskonsortiet with a joint Danish-Swedish government guarantee, and an expected pay.back time of approx. 30 years. The debt for the Danish hinterland construction is placed in A/S ěresund, where they currently expect a pay-back time of approx. 48 years.

The reason for this strange arrangement is that at the time of deciding the ěresund Fixed Link, it was essential for Danish politicians to tell their voters that the ěresund Fixed link was not paid by Danish tax payers, and was to be entirely paid by the users.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:43 PM   #2214
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The usual government propaganda, this time for Norra lńnken which will open (partly) on November 30th. IIRC they usually release an English version after a few days.



Opening video with some sweet aerial views from E4 Sundsvall:

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Old November 20th, 2014, 11:33 PM   #2215
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New speed limits on the main motorways in the Stockholm region from November 1st. In summary, most 110-sections are now 100 and all 90-sections are now 80. This means there are really no 110-sections left within the metropolitan area.

Trafikverket has published a report saying the the changes will reduce road dust (PM10) and carbon emissions.

Oh, did I mention that the Green party is now in government...


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Old November 21st, 2014, 12:17 AM   #2216
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All over Europe speed limits on motorways are going down.For example in Tyrol in Austria speed limit on motorways is lower then it was.
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Old November 21st, 2014, 11:36 AM   #2217
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Not all over Europe, no. They should also designate more 120km/h in rural areas while they are at it!
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Old November 21st, 2014, 03:49 PM   #2218
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Actually, speed limits went up in many countries in recent years;

* 2004: Denmark 110 > 130
* 2008: Sweden 110 > 120 (some stretches)
* 2011: Poland: 130 > 140
* 2011: Spain: 110 > 120 (temporary reduction)
* 2012: Netherlands: 120 > 130
* 2012: Bulgaria > 130 > 140
* 2013: Russia: 110 > 130
* 2014: Norway: 100 > 110

Additionally, many U.S. states increased the speed limit over the last 5-7 years. Even in Canada they went up to 120 km/h in British Columbia this year.
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Old November 21st, 2014, 10:50 PM   #2219
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Not all over Europe, no. They should also designate more 120km/h in rural areas while they are at it!
I agree. Unfortunately, it is always easier to find a reason for a lower limit (noise, pollution, safety etc). They get even more creative when it comes to finding arguments for not rasing the limit. On the E4 south of J÷nk÷ping, for exampel, they recently installed guard rails, which should, in theory, result in the new 120-limit. However, Trafikverket hesitates because raising the speed limit would "make train services and other forms public transportation less competetive in the region".
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 11:07 AM   #2220
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I'm very much in favour of rail transit instead of people relying on cars, but that is a stupid reason not to raise speed limits. Safety & noise? yes, those are good reasons - especially in urban areas. But that trains can't compete if the road is 120? stupid. If that was the aim they should have invested in making the rail line higher speed instead of upping the road standard.
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