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Old November 7th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #2621
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It should have been motorway the whole part as it is prepared for it in the south. Its 4 km extra motorway on flat terrain
The main benefit with this new road lies in the new fly-over at the roundabout (today you often get stuck there at rush-hours or whenever there's been a race at Kalmartravet). The new interchange for riksväg 25/E22 will almost split traffic in 50/50, hence there's really no need for a motorway south of there.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 02:30 AM   #2622
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Some pictures of the ongoing construction of a road junction in Norrtull area (Hagastaden, Stockholm and Solna) which will lead to/out of the tunnels of Norra Länken (the northern section of The Stockholm Ring Road)

Overall, there should be a junction of 7 road tunnels


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Old November 26th, 2015, 01:03 AM   #2623
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Look at the number of lanes and tunnels in this document:

http://www.trafikverket.se/contentas..._sektioner.pdf

Surely a road geek paradise
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Old November 27th, 2015, 01:09 AM   #2624
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Old November 27th, 2015, 01:36 AM   #2625
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Look at the number of lanes and tunnels in this document:

http://www.trafikverket.se/contentas..._sektioner.pdf

Surely a road geek paradise
It is Tomteboda area, right? (more tunnel porn )


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Old November 27th, 2015, 03:23 AM   #2626
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Is it true that Sweden switched from driving on the left and if so what changes had to be made to the highways? I don't understand how you could switch motorway directions.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 03:36 AM   #2627
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A few nice illustrations of how the Stockholm bypass (Förbifart Stockholm) or the longest road tunnel system under an urban area in the world will be constructed and will look like:


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Old November 27th, 2015, 03:45 AM   #2628
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Is it true that Sweden switched from driving on the left and if so what changes had to be made to the highways? I don't understand how you could switch motorway directions.
Giyf!

There is a Wikipedia article about Driving left/right. On top of it are maps. Most changes happened relatively early. In Sweden 1967. This menas there werent much motorways etc at that time i suppose.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links-...rkehr#Schweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H
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Old November 27th, 2015, 04:23 AM   #2629
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Is it true that Sweden switched from driving on the left and if so what changes had to be made to the highways? I don't understand how you could switch motorway directions.
Easy... Ausfarht becomes einfahrt
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Old November 27th, 2015, 04:24 AM   #2630
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Easy... Ausfarht becomes einfahrt
Utfart became Infart, if to be precise.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 08:46 AM   #2631
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Is it true that Sweden switched from driving on the left and if so what changes had to be made to the highways? I don't understand how you could switch motorway directions.
The switch did not happen suddenly. The decision was made in 1955, thus 12 years in advance. In 1955, the length of the motorway network was minimal: The 17-kilometer road Malmö-Lund got opened in 1953. The junctions of that road were symmetric, thus being valid for both left hand and right hand driving.

The modern design principles such as asymmetric junctions and roundabouts were born later. Today, switching the sides might be a mission impossible.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 03:42 PM   #2632
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Quite a number of Swedish motorway openings were delayed in the 1960s to match with Dagen H in 1967. All 1967 openings were on 3 September (81 km).
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Old November 29th, 2015, 09:00 PM   #2633
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So if I understand the schema correct, they will not build out Eugeniatunneln to 3+3, pretty amazing considering it has been the biggest bottleneck on E4 in Stockholm since it was opened 24 years ago, I once spent 3 hours driving between Sollentuna and Södertälje on a particularly bad traffic day and the only place that was down to complete stand still was Eugeniatunneln.
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Old November 30th, 2015, 04:13 PM   #2634
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Yes gincan, as far as I can see in the documents published by Trafikverket the E4 will remain 2+2 through the tunnels. This is very unfortunate and will assure that the bottleneck remains
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Old November 30th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #2635
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I'm guessing they think it'd be to expensive/disruptive to re-dig those tunnels. PLus they might somehow think Förbifarten will result in fewer cars there (even though that's not what happens when you build more motorways in a city).
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No signs of Red-Green-mania that is crossing Europe in city-planning in Stockholm!
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No signs of Red-Green-mania that is crossing Europe in city-planning in Stockholm!
Sadly, no. The Greens are still too locked in on preserving any & all green stuff outside their own kitchen windows to realize that doing so causes sprawl.
There is a generational shift going on and the national party has adopted good policies - but the local Green politicians in most places still think it's the 70s. They're actually trying to persuade people the Förbifart is a bad idea by using the climate as an argument! Even though everyone who will be convinced by that was convinced by it years ago. They've yet to realize they could have been making the case that more motorways in a big city only leads to more & worse traffic (which is what the research clearly shows). But nooo.
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I'm guessing they think it'd be to expensive/disruptive to re-dig those tunnels.
That conclusion is most probably true. Starting from scratch is usually the cheapest way. It is also understandable that the political climate does not allow building the Stockholm bypass and increasing the capacity of the existing corridor at the same time.
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In Helsinki the National Coalition and the Greens stand strangely together in blocking every car-related projects! You are lucky in Stockholm. Recently the western harbor very much needed tunnel/bridge was cancelled - instead they will "regulate car traffic"! - on a street already full of cars and with hard rush hours due to the very frequent daily ferry traffic between Helsinki and Tallinn and a new neighborhood with 20 000 ppl... Everybody on their bikes!?
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Sadly, no. The Greens are still too locked in on preserving any & all green stuff outside their own kitchen windows to realize that doing so causes sprawl.
There is a generational shift going on and the national party has adopted good policies - but the local Green politicians in most places still think it's the 70s. They're actually trying to persuade people the Förbifart is a bad idea by using the climate as an argument! Even though everyone who will be convinced by that was convinced by it years ago. They've yet to realize they could have been making the case that more motorways in a big city only leads to more & worse traffic (which is what the research clearly shows). But nooo.
Sadly? Really? Come on...
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