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Old December 4th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #281
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Hungary to the rescue. :P
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Old December 4th, 2008, 07:21 PM   #282
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Slovenia isn't that good either, Verso. We're doing better
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Old December 4th, 2008, 07:30 PM   #283
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For Slovenia I doubt data will really improve soon.
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Old December 4th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #284
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You're lucky Croatia was not taken into account. I'm sure we would be the worst!
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Old December 4th, 2008, 10:54 PM   #285
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Are there lots of fatal accidents on the Croatian motorways?
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Old December 4th, 2008, 11:20 PM   #286
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How can Germany have so few deaths?!
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Old December 4th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #287
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I was wondering as well, but it's probably due to the fact that there are many billions of vehicle kilometres driven on the German Autobahns.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 01:12 AM   #288
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I guess with high quality cars and good behaviour on roads speed limits do not necessarily corelate with number of deaths.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 09:45 AM   #289
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Motorways are usually the safest possible road type, despite the higher speeds.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 09:51 AM   #290
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Swedish road agencies claim 2+1 with barriers comes extremely close to the motorway safety levels too.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 12:14 PM   #291
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Except in Sweden we use egg cutters as barriers, even on motorways. I would like to know how many motorcyclists in fact do survive accidents on such roads.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 12:18 PM   #292
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Data are not really supporting the idea.
I expected CZ to be even worse....
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Old December 6th, 2008, 03:15 PM   #293
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How can Germany have so few deaths?!
Most germans are able to handle high speeds safely... That also proves the relation between traffic safety and speed limits is very small. (only the death rate may be a little higher) A lot of people here for instance think they drive safely just because they follow the speed limit, instead of going a comfortable speed the road is fit for...
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Old December 8th, 2008, 07:17 PM   #294
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Data are not really supporting the idea.

I seriously doubt that those Norwegian figures only relates to motorways.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 07:37 PM   #295
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Switzerland is surprisingly low. But since they just counted the motorways, it's still possible.
Afaik, Switzerland has a reasonably safe road infrastructure, even when regular roads are counted. Not UK-/the Netherlands-/Sweden-safe, but quite good.

There are many different sides to road safety, but the obvious speed related issue is the fact that if limits are lowered and respected, the outcome of accidents will be less serious. Typically, Norwegian roads are safer than most other countries', even though the road quality is worse. On the other hand, Swedish roads are somewhat safer than Norwegian, even though the speed limits are slightly higher.
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Norwegian deaths on motorways are very year dependant. So even one serious accident with a lot of deaths can seriously alter the statistics.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 12:31 AM   #297
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I seriously doubt that those Norwegian figures only relates to motorways.
Thru, i read a few days ago from an official that on E6 trough Østfold there had been no deaths since the opening (2005), and i've read simular claims about E18 Vestfold....

I could understand that we have a lot of small accidents on the motorways since we have a long winter, but they are not fatal....
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Old December 9th, 2008, 02:02 AM   #298
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There is additional note for Norway in the document.
* Norway: 2005
Rates for Finland, Ireland, Israel and Norway are based on few deaths per year and are therefore subject to wide fluctuation


As data are "per billion vehicle-km" countries with low motorway usage are heavily affected by every death accident.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #299
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I seriously doubt that those Norwegian figures only relates to motorways.
I can not immagine at the numbers are that bad in Hungary.... maybe on main roads but .....MOTORWAYS?
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Old December 9th, 2008, 04:28 PM   #300
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9 dead per 1 billion km is that bad? 1 dead every 110 million km.
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