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Old December 9th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #301
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It's worse than the Netherlands (almost twice as high)
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Old December 9th, 2008, 09:22 PM   #302
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Norwegian deaths on motorways are very year dependant. So even one serious accident with a lot of deaths can seriously alter the statistics.
I can assure you that that's not the case with our national statistics. Their development - positive or negative - is and has always been gradual and moderate. Besides, since we don't have more than 300 kms of motorway, there hasn't really been a need for specific motorway related issues. We've had a slight increase in road deaths the past couple of years, though, even though quite a few new motorway sections have opened. And these have been virtually free of fatal accidents, btw. As for a "serious accident with a lot of deaths" - they haven't happened on our motorways. Ever.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #303
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Thru, i read a few days ago from an official that on E6 trough Østfold there had been no deaths since the opening (2005), and i've read simular claims about E18 Vestfold....

I could understand that we have a lot of small accidents on the motorways since we have a long winter, but they are not fatal....
Afaik, there have been some 5 fatalities on the E18 motorway south of Oslo 2000-2008. Similar figures apply to the E6 north and south of our capital. On other motorways..? Well, that's about 90% of what we've got, and I seriously doubt that the remainding sections around Oslo, Bergen and Stavanger would affect this at all. In short, the network is a bit short to evaluate, but if one were to do just that, my guess is that it would be among the safest, if not the very safest, in the world.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #304
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For those of you particularly interested in Norwegian road deaths, here are some statistics from the Norwegian national census bureau:

http://www.ssb.no/english/subjects/10/12/20/vtuaar_en/
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Old December 14th, 2008, 03:46 PM   #305
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E6 Malmö - Helsingborg

1. First exit coming from Denmark on E20.
[IMG]http://i37.************/2zp81s0.jpg[/IMG]

2. A junction is called a "Trafikplats".
[IMG]http://i35.************/344tlr7.jpg[/IMG]

3. Exit Lockarp.
[IMG]http://i36.************/vfjscx.jpg[/IMG]

4. Long distances for Dutchmen
[IMG]http://i36.************/210nczs.jpg[/IMG]

5. Exit Malmö-Sudost?
[IMG]http://i38.************/so0oza.jpg[/IMG]

6. These gantry's look a bit flimsy.
[IMG]http://i34.************/2wc36lt.jpg[/IMG]

7. Now we're talking distances.
[IMG]http://i38.************/vxc95t.jpg[/IMG]

8. Make it a double feature
[IMG]http://i33.************/21b39c4.jpg[/IMG]

9. Klagerup exit.
[IMG]http://i34.************/25a7yb9.jpg[/IMG]

10. Trafikplats Sallerup.
[IMG]http://i36.************/1zf8rk.jpg[/IMG]
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Old December 14th, 2008, 03:52 PM   #306
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11. Exit 15 it is.
[IMG]http://i37.************/24g9mar.jpg[/IMG]

12. Another Malmö metropolitan exit.
[IMG]http://i36.************/2luz7le.jpg[/IMG]

13. It seems to be a cloverleaf.
[IMG]http://i38.************/351eb7c.jpg[/IMG]

14. The interchange.
[IMG]http://i34.************/10xgi7m.jpg[/IMG]

15. Exit 16b.
[IMG]http://i33.************/160si9u.jpg[/IMG]

16. Exit Arlöv.
[IMG]http://i33.************/mwbib9.jpg[/IMG]

17. Notice the shape of the exit sign.
[IMG]http://i35.************/jq2fcg.jpg[/IMG]

18. Major interchange ahead.
[IMG]http://i33.************/25p733q.jpg[/IMG]

19. It's exit 18.
[IMG]http://i37.************/rtdhjq.jpg[/IMG]

20. Göteborg is three hours away. Stockholm is six hours away.
[IMG]http://i33.************/xnav4o.jpg[/IMG]
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Old December 14th, 2008, 03:58 PM   #307
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21. Trafikplats close-up.
[IMG]http://i35.************/212z31v.jpg[/IMG]

22. Strangely, no sign of Helsingborg.
[IMG]http://i34.************/5a5qbd.jpg[/IMG]

23. Exit Lomma.
[IMG]http://i33.************/xfri3d.jpg[/IMG]

24. What does that white E22 N sign mean?
[IMG]http://i36.************/s1s0si.jpg[/IMG]

25. Densely populated area... for Swedish standards.
[IMG]http://i36.************/11bjlz7.jpg[/IMG]

26. Danish-style exit.
[IMG]http://i33.************/2nv9t8l.jpg[/IMG]

27. Distance sign.
[IMG]http://i38.************/206yf10.jpg[/IMG]

28. Borgeby Exit.
[IMG]http://i34.************/1znyj47.jpg[/IMG]

29. Sign is illuminated from above.
[IMG]http://i37.************/209rjo7.jpg[/IMG]

30. Exit 22.
[IMG]http://i35.************/14b4v40.jpg[/IMG]
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Old December 14th, 2008, 04:01 PM   #308
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Pic 30: It seems like someone had to break quite fast.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 04:05 PM   #309
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31. What kind of font do they use?
[IMG]http://i37.************/2igboeq.jpg[/IMG]

32. New pavement and shiny crashbarriers!
[IMG]http://i38.************/b4ukwn.jpg[/IMG]

33. Another exit with extensive facilities.
[IMG]http://i34.************/mwdv93.jpg[/IMG]

34. McDonalds even conquered Sweden.
[IMG]http://i35.************/2dha63o.jpg[/IMG]

35. Exit 23.
[IMG]http://i37.************/282m453.jpg[/IMG]

36. Inching closer to Göteborg.
[IMG]http://i33.************/1z20u3p.jpg[/IMG]

37. Bjuv exit.
[IMG]http://i33.************/vpgryq.jpg[/IMG]

38. Trees! They don't have many of them in Sweden
[IMG]http://i35.************/21amxz6.jpg[/IMG]

39. The sea... Including horizon pollution
[IMG]http://i36.************/27zdnnk.jpg[/IMG]

40. Eslöv exit ahead.
[IMG]http://i34.************/51zqmh.jpg[/IMG]
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Old December 14th, 2008, 04:11 PM   #310
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41. E4 is signed indirectly.
[IMG]http://i36.************/1rbz8l.jpg[/IMG]

42. Ah Helsingborg.
[IMG]http://i35.************/20z8m4i.jpg[/IMG]

43. Swedish countryside and cable barriers.
[IMG]http://i38.************/25kn3b6.jpg[/IMG]

44. Landskrona-North exit.
[IMG]http://i35.************/2rz431f.jpg[/IMG]

45. Open countryside... Nice in a snowstorm.
[IMG]http://i37.************/nfibdh.jpg[/IMG]

46. Exit 26.
[IMG]http://i36.************/316kryo.jpg[/IMG]

47. Helsingborg is not far now.
[IMG]http://i38.************/2i8gg43.jpg[/IMG]

48. Time to get a burger.
[IMG]http://i35.************/2ypjhh3.jpg[/IMG]

49. Rest area.
[IMG]http://i34.************/icusy9.jpg[/IMG]

50. Quite some view ahead.
[IMG]http://i36.************/2mph7o5.jpg[/IMG]
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Old December 14th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #311
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51. The ride back exit.
[IMG]http://i36.************/30rv12f.jpg[/IMG]

52. Yay, Stockholm.
[IMG]http://i37.************/mc83f7.jpg[/IMG]

53. Cool peek.
[IMG]http://i33.************/dwuq9w.jpg[/IMG]

54. Approaching E4 interchange.
[IMG]http://i34.************/27zi49g.jpg[/IMG]

55. Big road numbers.
[IMG]http://i37.************/mmx407.jpg[/IMG]

56. I noticed there are quite some older cars on the road (more than 10 years old). Because of the high registration fees?
[IMG]http://i35.************/2v866c2.jpg[/IMG]

57. E4 distances.
[IMG]http://i34.************/vq2wsp.jpg[/IMG]

58. E6 distances.
[IMG]http://i34.************/15yj246.jpg[/IMG]

59. Helsingborg-East exit.
[IMG]http://i35.************/2lnyamx.jpg[/IMG]

60. Quite some traffic here.
[IMG]http://i36.************/atxixy.jpg[/IMG]
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Old December 14th, 2008, 04:24 PM   #312
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61. Big E4 interchange ahead.
[IMG]http://i34.************/2czbr80.jpg[/IMG]

62. Some E4 bonus pics. This section has extremely bad pavement. Concrete with track formation, never seen that...
[IMG]http://i36.************/280pmz8.jpg[/IMG]

63. Bjuv exit.
[IMG]http://i37.************/2aih2pv.jpg[/IMG]

64. The exit.
[IMG]http://i38.************/nnntad.jpg[/IMG]

65. I took this exit.
[IMG]http://i36.************/15xn5s3.jpg[/IMG]

66. Getting back south.
[IMG]http://i34.************/2llk8kg.jpg[/IMG]

That´s it, I had to drive back quite a few hours to my rental home near Middelfart in western Denmark.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 05:14 PM   #313
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On-turning pics!

Swedish signs are quite picturesque. But haven't we already seen these pics?
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Yes, but Chris is showing all his pics from his picasa albums again.
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I posted them in an album 15 months ago. But I enhanced these pictures
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Old December 14th, 2008, 05:35 PM   #316
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A couple comments:

Not all junctions are called 'trafikplats', in Värmland and Västmanland (I think) counties they are 'motet', like somethingmotet. Surely in other counties too, I think Västra Götaland does it too but I'm not sure. There are a few other differences county-by-county...for example around Helsingborg (Skåne) in particular there are lots of signs that don't use all caps, and some say Trafikplats like you pictured. In most other counties all signs are all in caps. Most signs are in caps even in Skåne though, so they aren't consistant.

Speaking of consistently, the thing that bothers me the most about Swedish road signs are that in some places the exit signs are integrated into the main sign, in most not. You'd think that this would be because the exit signs got introduced later and they didn't want to replace all the signs - yes. But in many places even brand new signs have it not included. In the motorway that opened not long ago north of Uppsala, the very first sign has it integrated but not the rest. Argh. Other than these things though, signs are pretty integrated throughout the country.

The white E22 sign that you asked about is an alternative route for the E22. White signs like that are alternative routes.
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Old December 14th, 2008, 05:42 PM   #317
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1. First exit coming from Denmark on E20.
[IMG]http://i37.************/2zp81s0.jpg[/IMG]
Just a small correction! This is actually the fourth exit coming from Denmark. The first one is a truck rest-stop calld "Skånegården" (not sure it counts though), the second one is Trafikplats Vintrie, and the third one is Trafikplats Petersborg (big interchange with E6 and E22).
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Can somebody post me a picture from Speed Limits in Sweden? Thanks
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The E18 has gotten several improvements and new motorway segments this year. The last major one for the next year and a half or so to open will be opening on the 22nd: on Monday almost 20 km of new motorway opens west of Örebro.
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The E18 has gotten several improvements and new motorway segments this year. The last major one for the next year and a half or so to open will be opening on the 22nd: on Monday almost 20 km of new motorway opens west of Örebro.
It's already open!
but, the speed limit is for now 90.
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