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Old October 19th, 2007, 08:30 PM   #41
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Why is it being criticized for having narrow lanes? Are the lanes narrower than usual?
Do you know what's the lane width they used and whats the standard in Sweden?
If im not mistaken, normal for motorway is 21,5 m (3,5 m per lane). According to newspapers the road was made 2m narrower then what was planned, so that would be 19,5 m.

Thanks for the pics btw, must be harsh for those driving there daily with that unploughed left lane. :P

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Old October 19th, 2007, 08:38 PM   #42
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I wonder why the speed limit is only 110km/h... It's really slow for such huge distances. The Swedish motorväger are excellent for a 130km/h limit.
Agreed, when the weather allows.

I hope we can have smth like the french sooner or later, I think that should have been implemented long ago...
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Old October 19th, 2007, 09:05 PM   #43
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Concrete motorway. Never seen that on Sweden motorways, only on E4 close to Helsingborg. Are there any other sections of concrete motorways in Sweden apart from above and in south?
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Old October 19th, 2007, 11:14 PM   #44
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The E4 section near Helsingborg is extremely deformated, and need a total repavement badly.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 01:58 AM   #45
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If im not mistaken, normal for motorway is 21,5 m (3,5 m per lane). According to newspapers the road was made 2m narrower then what was planned, so that would be 19,5 m.

Thanks for the pics btw, must be harsh for those driving there daily with that unploughed left lane. :P
What does that 21.5 stands for? Total motorway width (with no central reservation, just a Jersey barrier)?? Hum... maybe just the width of the lanes, ignoring the central reservation. It would be 10.75m per carriageway.
Let's see:

3+3.5+3.5+0,75 ?? Maybe 2,5+3,5+3,5+1,25 ??


With 19.5 it woud be 9.75 per carriageway:

2,5+3,25+3,25+0,75 ??

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Old October 20th, 2007, 01:49 PM   #46
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21,5 was what I found on the VV (national road authorities) website. For the life of me I can never get these figures right, so I better not mislead you.

EDIT:

Seems 21,5 m is for that particular motorway I was checking.

Eitherway the new E4 is 18,5 m which is considered a "narrow motorway" here. The emergency lanes are 2 m instead of the normal 2,75 m making it unsafe in case of truck-breakdowns.

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Old October 20th, 2007, 04:08 PM   #47
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Concrete motorway. Never seen that on Sweden motorways, only on E4 close to Helsingborg. Are there any other sections of concrete motorways in Sweden apart from above and in south?
Well, E6 from Laholm to about Kungsbacka is mostly concrete. I think there is some concrete on the E22 near Kristanstad. When I learn how to upload pix, I show you the E6 section with "good"(not like E4) concrete pavment and speed limit 120.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 04:06 PM   #48
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Well, E6 from Laholm to about Kungsbacka is mostly concrete. I think there is some concrete on the E22 near Kristanstad. When I learn how to upload pix, I show you the E6 section with "good"(not like E4) concrete pavment and speed limit 120.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 04:15 PM   #49
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^ So are you saying that (at least for now) there's no motorway planned between Gävle and Söderhamn, and is therefore the continuous motorway from Stockholm up north already finished (Stockholm-Gävle)? (not that motorways up there are desperately needed anyway)
Wait a minute: isn't there a motorway between Gävle and Hamrånge? Or at least a 4-lane expressway, as well as between Hamrånge and Söderhamn?
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Swedish is a nice language i can read the above

To post images; 1 upload a image to imageshack 2 copy and paste the link "thumbnails for forums" and you're ready.

However, if the image is not to large (less than 800px wide) i would do a hotlink instead of a thumbnail. But not when you have 100 pics to show.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 11:38 PM   #51
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Wait a minute: isn't there a motorway between Gävle and Hamrånge? Or at least a 4-lane expressway, as well as between Hamrånge and Söderhamn?
It's a 2+1 Motortrafikled ( = "motortrafficroad"/autostrasse) til Hamrånge (or Tönnebro to be more precise) then it turns into a regular 2+1 road with same level crossings all the way to Söderhamn, where it turns to whats got to be the crappiest motorway of this country.
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^ Ok, thanks, then Map24 is wrong.
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Old October 30th, 2007, 03:17 PM   #53
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Not exactly Swedish motorway subject, but still interesting: The legendary "Getaway in Stockholm":
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Old October 30th, 2007, 03:29 PM   #54
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Sightseeing Stockholm in 16 minutes...

I found this movie about some crazy stunt to fly with a little aircraft in a big tunnel in Stockholm.

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=W-QJLOVLg7M

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Old October 30th, 2007, 04:29 PM   #55
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What? Nice cavern.
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Old October 31st, 2007, 02:31 AM   #56
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A discrace for Sweden is E20 between Göteborg and Stockholm. A big part of it isn't a real motorway, especially the part between Alingsås and Vretstorp outside Örebro.

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Old October 31st, 2007, 05:58 AM   #57
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Well, not a real motorway, not even a fake one.
Just a road. It may be a good road and they may call it something fancy, but in the end it's just a road.

So yes, that motorway must be built in the next years!
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Old November 30th, 2007, 12:42 AM   #58
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 02:46 PM   #59
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E18 Stockholm - Enköping

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A photoserie of the E18, from Stockholm to Enköping, 70km to the west. Pics taken late November, by Dutch forumers Frits and IQ[] on their holiday in Stockholm.

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Old December 2nd, 2007, 02:53 PM   #60
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E4 Essingeleden Stockholm



The Essingeleden is the busiest motorway in Sweden, and the only motorway to the north through Stockholm. The motorway is partially 2x3 and 2x4 lanes. These pics were also taken by Dutch forumers Frits and IQ[] on their holiday in Stockholm late November.

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