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Old September 20th, 2010, 03:57 PM   #741
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Yes it will, since the right parties won the election esterday
But, how will it work with the green party? The Alliance chooses them over the nationalists, so that small green party can make some demands before entering the coalition. And since the ideology of these green parties is often that idling and queueing traffic is much better for the environment than flowing traffic, could this mean danger to road projects and speed limit increases?
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Old September 20th, 2010, 04:33 PM   #742
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Old September 20th, 2010, 08:53 PM   #743
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But, how will it work with the green party? The Alliance chooses them over the nationalists, so that small green party can make some demands before entering the coalition. And since the ideology of these green parties is often that idling and queueing traffic is much better for the environment than flowing traffic, could this mean danger to road projects and speed limit increases?
The green party of the Alliance (The Centre party, which is really not as "green" as the enviromental party on the left side) is actually positive to the bypass, since it's not the roads which are the envirmoental "criminals", it's the vechiles driving on it. Their vision is that all sweish cars should be independent of fossile fuels by 2030. And that's not long after the Förbifart is finished
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Old September 20th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #744
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The green party of the Alliance (The Centre party, which is really not as "green" as the enviromental party on the left side) is actually positive to the bypass, since it's not the roads which are the envirmoental "criminals", it's the vechiles driving on it. Their vision is that all sweish cars should be independent of fossile fuels by 2030. And that's not long after the Förbifart is finished
It looks like the most probable outcome of the election is a centre-right minority government. Theoretically, the Greens could join the Alliance but it seems unlikely.

This situation could be both good and bad when it comes to the future of the Stockholm bypass. The Social Democrats want the bypass but were forced to accept a local referendum to get the Green party to agree on the joint red-green platform. Now that that it's clear there won't be a red-green government the Social Democrat could very well go back to their original standpoint and we would have a massive majority for the bypass.

On the other hand, and this is just as likely, the Alliance might have to strike some kind of deal with the Green party to gain ther (passive) support in Parliament. One point in such a deal could very well be a local referendum about the bypass.

We'll see how it goes...
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Old September 20th, 2010, 11:02 PM   #745
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I hope any referendum wouldn't be such a blatant mistake like the one about the Stockholm congestion charge. I mean, wanting the opinion of the people, but not the one of those most affected by the charge. What a democratic farce.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:34 AM   #746
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The green party has said that their belief is that they haven't received so many votes just to start supporting the Aliiance. If that's what the prime minister want, they suggest that he takes up the discussion with the entire red-green "block", since none of them want the Sweden democrats to have the roll in the parliament that they just recieved, giving the Alliance minority.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:54 AM   #747
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Also Chris, E22 between Kristianstad and Sölvesborg (roughly, the thin line on the map) which is of 2+1 standard today, is currently under planning and is expected to be built to full motorway standards. The Norje bypass, the stretch between Sölve and Stensnäs has been approved and construction will start in 2011. And the E22 between Karlshamn and Karlskrona is of very high standards with overpasses and ramps, so it looks like were finally getting a new trunk road of quality in the southern parts of Sweden. Which is nice of course!

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Looks like förbifart stockholm will be built after all
The E22 won't be built to motorway standard on the parts Fogdarp-Hörby north and Fjälkinge-Gualöv for quite some time, due to their 2+1 standard... Fjälkinge-Gualöv has a higher AADT (about 15.000) and has got at-grade crossings, unlike Fogdarp-Hörby north, so I think it should be upgraded in this planning period (2010-2021).
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:23 AM   #748
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I hope any referendum wouldn't be such a blatant mistake like the one about the Stockholm congestion charge. I mean, wanting the opinion of the people, but not the one of those most affected by the charge. What a democratic farce.
Agree, the "referendum" on the congestion charge was a joke. It's also very interesting to see how congestion charging is still an issue for many voters. In Gothenburg, a new party called Vägval (Crossroads) was elected to the Municipal Assembly with 5 percent of the votes. It's sole purpose is to stop congestion charing in Gothenburg.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 11:57 AM   #749
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I made a simple summary on ongoing and planned motorway projects in Sweden, click here.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 05:23 PM   #750
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I made a simple summary on ongoing and planned motorway projects in Sweden, click here.

Awesome, thank you.

Article from Helsingborgs Dagblad, non-swedish speakers use google translate

http://hd.se/helsingborg/2010/10/11/...lopp-och-star/
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Old October 11th, 2010, 09:10 PM   #751
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Göteborg - Trollhättan must be one of the longest motorway prjects in Sweden ever! or an I wrong here?
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Old October 11th, 2010, 09:39 PM   #752
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Göteborg - Trollhättan must be one of the longest motorway prjects in Sweden ever! or an I wrong here?
I think Uppsala-Mehedeby (completed in 2007) was 78 km actually.
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Old October 11th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #753
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Well, they're very long, and it's not so usual anyway:P
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:12 PM   #754
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The red line shows planned new alignment of the E22 between Sölve and interchange Mörrum West. The new road will be a motorway, 19,5 metres wide (2+3,5+3,25+2+3,25+3,5+2).

It will close the gap between the motorway in the southwest and the 2+1-expressway in the northeast.

Construction starts during the spring of 2011 and the new road will open in the summer of 2014.

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Old October 22nd, 2010, 10:24 PM   #755
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So this means that people visiting the Sweden rock festival will finally be able to reach it by motorway?
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 10:35 PM   #756
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Great Aphelion. Thanks for the update. I checked the AADT there and it is 10.000 - 11.000 (last 3 km is 13.000) vehicles per day.

In other words, this road is an extension of the existing 15,7 km long E22 motorway stretch till exit nr. 49 (Mörrum West) and a bypass for some places.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 09:20 AM   #757
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So this means that people visiting the Sweden rock festival will finally be able to reach it by motorway?
Basically yes, though this new road will only get one new interchange. It will be located at the junction with road 121.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 07:42 PM   #758
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E18 Enköping-Sagån opens tomorrow
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Old October 24th, 2010, 07:52 PM   #759
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Nice, 14 kilometers of new motorväg!
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Old October 24th, 2010, 08:13 PM   #760
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Nice xbox36O!!
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