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Old February 4th, 2008, 01:34 PM   #81
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I doubt if the E6 will ever will be completely motorway. Maybe up to Trondheim, but the E4 route through Sweden is shorter and faster to extreme northern Norway.
I totally agree. In some stretches the E6 only have an AADT of a few hundred. Actually, even between Oslo and Trondheim most people (and almost all trucks) use an alternative and shorter route, Rv 3.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 06:11 PM   #82
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I wonder why the speed limit is only 110km/h... It's really slow for such huge distances. The Swedish motorväger are excellent for a 130km/h limit.
And you get a huge speeding ticket €300 just for driving a couple of km to fast.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 06:13 PM   #83
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Though i saw a lot of Swedes driving 120 - 130km/h on the E6. If i stick to the limit, i would be one of the slower ones (except trucks).
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Old February 4th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #84
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New Swedish laws as of January 1 allows for a maximum speed limit of 120. Some motorway stretches should be upgraded to that within the next few years.

100 (among other limts) was also added, and so some 110 non-motorway stretches will probably get downgraded to that.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 06:34 PM   #85
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That makes sense.

Do the current motorways need any upgrade to get the speed increased to 120km/s?!
Well, I guess there could be some tighter curves which would be appropriate to 110 and not 120 (although this probably doesn't happen... or if it does, it's probable rare)... and limiting those stretches to 100 would be enough.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #86
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Virtually all motorway stretches could take 120, I think. My guess is that a lot of stretches that are pretty countryside-ish may get 120, but also that a lot of the 2+1 type of roads that are 110 now may go down to 100, and 90 ones to 80, another new limit, in some tight stretches and such. They've actually downgraded a bunch of 90 ones to 70 in southern Sweden recently for more safety.

I saw the first new speed limit a couple weeks ago, 100 on a motorway stretch on the E18 near Stockholm... much to my surprise, to be honest, since this was an upgrade from 90 -- they tend to want to decrease instead of increase speed limits. :P

One cool thing is that more and more roads are getting the electronic speed limit panels that lets them change it depending on weather conditions and such.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #87
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120 probably makes sense on some Swedish roads, but I think it is a mistake to introduce several new limits. In Norway all multiples of 10 km/h between 20 and 100 km/h are possible. In practice that means whole lot more signs and different speed zones (when entering a town you sometimes see a row of signs 80 - 70 - 60 - 50 - 40), and it distracts a lot of attention from the traffic to keep updated on the speed limits. It was said a couple of years ago that we should switch to a system with warning signs before entering towns instead, but so far that has not happened as far as I can see. I think the simple old Swedish system (30-50-70-90-110) is much better, especially combined with a warning sign a couple of hundred of meters before a change to a new speed zone.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 11:01 PM   #88
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Well from what I've seen they only plan on changing certain speed zones from one to another with these new ones, not add more zones in between and such. Like how the stretch that I saw a couple weeks ago went completely from 90 to 100, not part 90 and part 100.

Within towns the standard limit is 50 when you see the populated sign, and they lower it to 30 for certain zones. I'm sure we'll see a few 40s pop up, but my guess is that it's probably going to be just where there were 30s before (or where they wanted to put 30 in) but where 30 was seen as a bit too slow (but 50 too fast).
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Old February 5th, 2008, 11:48 PM   #89
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Awesome pics there, SmarterChild! How come Sweden hasn't built more motorways (since WWII)?
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Old February 6th, 2008, 01:38 AM   #90
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Sweden has... just last October for example a 70+km stretch opened north of Uppsala, probably 100km total last year, and at least another 60 or 70 km this year, with several new projects also being started or in progress...
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^ Yeah, recently we're getting lot's of continious stretches between large cities which is ofcourse a good thing.

But, before the 1990's most motorways where just short stretches around the cities and it's only recently that the advantages of motorways (road safety, economic growth in the country-side, etc) are becoming obvious. Besides we still don't have a continious motorway between our 2 largest cities and plans for that has existed since the 1940's...!! So we got some catching up to do and we can thank NIMBYism for that. :P

And about the speed limits, I think most Swedish motorways could handle even 130 km/h (infact, I'd say they already do. ), some are to old though.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 04:08 PM   #92
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Even tho the E4 is the best to get to the north of scandiavia, it is a mess 2 drive... Surley south of Umeå and north of Gävle is a lot 2 do.

It would take years....
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Well it's all completely motorway between Uppsala and Gävle which is nice, and if you didn't notice last month they have started a new 30km stretch of motorway right by Hudiksvall I do believe, so that will be a very welcome new E4 motorway stretch as well.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:55 AM   #94
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But, before the 1990's most motorways where just short stretches around the cities and it's only recently that the advantages of motorways (road safety, economic growth in the country-side, etc) are becoming obvious.
Yeah, that's what I meant actually; before 90s Sweden didn't manage to build many motorways.
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Old February 19th, 2008, 12:23 AM   #95
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On E6 near Halmstad the speed limit has been 120 for a couple of years depending on nice weather, i guess it's a test-stretch =)
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As said, they're building Örebro-Lekhyttan.. But they're planning a 1+1 road between Lekhyttan - Karlskoga. Only some few places will have 2+2 or 2+1
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As said, they're building Örebro-Lekhyttan.. But they're planning a 1+1 road between Lekhyttan - Karlskoga. Only some few places will have 2+2 or 2+1
Mabye an AADT of 8500 is not enough. This mixed 1+1, 2+1 and 2+2 solution solves the safety problems.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 09:26 PM   #98
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On E6 near Halmstad the speed limit has been 120 for a couple of years depending on nice weather, i guess it's a test-stretch =)
I prefer the 'test-stretch' on the austrian A10 (160km/h). Swedish motorways seem too good to have just a 110km/h limit. But that's just a guess, I haven't driven in your beautiful country yet.
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Old March 5th, 2008, 09:32 PM   #99
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I don't know if 160 is really faster than 120. You consume much more fuel, and on the long run, you'll have to refuel more often. You can easily loose like 10 minutes with that, where the one who drive 120 can already drive another 20km.

I think 120 - 130 km/h is a good and reasonable speed limit, it is a comfortable, safe speed, it gets you anywhere fast enough, and it is fuel efficient enough.
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I prefer the 'test-stretch' on the austrian A10 (160km/h).
Doesn't exist for some time already.
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