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Old July 15th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #1281
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I agree with the above. It is a pleasure to drive in Sweden, I have done it for many many times, and will continue to do so in the future.
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Old July 15th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #1282
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Very mixed, ranging from standard rural road (50/70 km/h) to 2+1 road with a limit of 100 km/h. There is even some motorway.
Definitely, yes.

It is a showcase of the Swedish style to improve their roads in very short legs. The road changes its class tens of times.
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Old July 15th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #1283
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And in terms of scenery? I know not to expect Norwegian fjords there, but is it nice?
The road runs in the inland, even if it lies close to the coastline. The road itself is not very scenic, but it makes it it easy to visit nice towns and villages at the seaside nearby.

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Old July 15th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #1284
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Just drove on the E6 from Southern Norway into Sweden for the afternoon. The freeway/motorway seems to be complete, except for one small section just south of Tranum. There doesn't seem to be any sign on construction in that part. Does anyone know when and/or if they are going to upgrade that part to motorway? Until it is, Oslo is still the only Western/Northern European capital to not be connected to the rest of Western/Northern Europe via motorway.
The last part of E6 through Tanum has become delayed in planning because it runs through a UNESCO-site. Follow it on trafikverket's website: http://www.trafikverket.se/Privat/Pr...n-Tanumshede1/
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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:36 AM   #1285
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Autobahn-bilder.de has a set of pictures from the E4 from Helsingborg all the way up to Stockholm, if you want to get an idea of what the road standard is like.

http://www.autobahn-bilder.de/inlines/e4schw.htm
Thanks for that! Sweden is beautiful....the countryside looks very wild and unspoilt. I particularly liked these shots:





It proves that non-mountainous scenery can be just as beautiful, especially in a country such as Sweden where you have so much unspoilt land.

I owe you guys a fika or two for this.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:40 AM   #1286
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I would say that swedish motorways are very easy to drive on, they are almost empty at times, few cars, not many trucks, plenty of space and absense of speeders.

Add to that scenic rest areas, lots of service stations, many with restaurants. Many service stations are open 24h.

After your swedish driving experience, take the ferry to Germany and you will notice the difference. Grey landscape, plenty of roadwork, clogged motorways full of trucks and speeders all the time in the left lane. Also breakdowns on the motorways is a common sight.
I guess it's partly because Germany is so much more densely populated. The more traffic volume that a road has to handle, the more maintenance it needs and the more disruption is caused to traffic as a result (can be a vicious cycle).

From what I've seen on here and Google Street View, Swedish roads look great - wide, simple, clear signage and based on what others have said, good drivers.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:48 AM   #1287
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The only thing I find annoying is that they stay longer on an overtaking lane then they should, but when you get close enough on somebody's ass, they swiftly move over. Also indicators on Swedish lorries appear to be broken, and side mirrors are for decorational purposes only. The amount of times I nearly got side-swapped...
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Old July 16th, 2012, 01:48 PM   #1288
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Sounds just like France to me.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 02:28 PM   #1289
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Not really, indicators work so well in France, that they leave them on when overtaking. Also they keep to the inside better.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 04:28 PM   #1290
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After your swedish driving experience, take the ferry to Germany and you will notice the difference. Grey landscape, plenty of roadwork, clogged motorways full of trucks and speeders all the time in the left lane. Also breakdowns on the motorways is a common sight.
but you are aware that population in germany is 8 times bigger than in sweden?

and that germany is a real heavy weight economy not only in europe but also in the whole world?

also germany is a transit country which you by all means cant say about sweden, which means much much bigger traffic.

and about speeding in the left lane: can it be that there was no speed limit on that section you saw the speeding? normally most germans stick to the speed limits -if there actually is one. at least thats my experience.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #1291
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Thanks for that! Sweden is beautiful....the countryside looks very wild and unspoilt. I particularly liked these shots:

This is my favorite part of the E4 and arguably the most beautiful stretch of motorway in Sweden. It was opened in the 60:ies and was actually built for left-hand traffic. This is still noticeable at some junctions where the layout is really weird.



Here are a few more pictures (although south-bound) from Gränna to Jönköping that I took a few years back.





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Exit 100 to Huskvarna, birthplace of Husqvarna – one of the world's largest producers of chainsaws, lawn and garden equipment.


Entering Jönköping, a city with a population of about 85 000.


First local exit in Jönköping, hence the white sign.


Indirect signs for roads 26, 40 (west) and 47 (west).




Overhead signs on urban motorways in Sweden rarely show control cities, only road numbers.


Jönköping city center.


The A6 shopping mall has its own exit.




Trafikplats Ljungarum, the E4/Road 40 interchange.


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Old July 17th, 2012, 07:09 AM   #1292
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@ kanterberg - great photos! I particularly like the coastal ones. Sweden seems to have such nice motorways and the traffic seems so orderly. I do hope to make it to Sweden at some point so that I can see your country (I'm just worried that I'll like it too much).

I meant to ask, how did the transition go from driving on the left to driving on the right? Were there many accidents, or was it a smooth transition? Was it done "overnight", or was it done region by region, or even county by county? I can only imagine the carnage that would occur if they tried to switch the UK (my homeland) to right hand drive, although now that I've lived in the US for +10 years, I actually prefer driving on the right, so driving on the left again would be weird.

I also like the lighting used on Swedish motorways - nice and wide.
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Not really, indicators work so well in France, that they leave them on when overtaking. Also they keep to the inside better.
I don't like that particular habit of leaving your indicator on while overtaking. You only need to indicate prior to switching lanes. After that, stop indicating! That drove me nuts on French autoroutes and 'N' roads, but generally, I find the French to be pretty good drivers, though somewhat more aggressive than their British counterparts.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 02:51 PM   #1294
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Not a very smooth transition, no

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Old July 17th, 2012, 02:58 PM   #1295
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Go out to Calais on a Saturday afternoon, and see these British day trippers and bargain hunters driving on the wrong side of the road, and then suddenly swerve to the right. Even the signs that the desperate French authorities have placed telling people to keep right seem to be ignored everywhere...
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Old July 17th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #1296
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This is what this part of the E4 looked on April 10th this year, a grey rainy day.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 03:27 PM   #1297
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@ kanterberg - great photos! I particularly like the coastal ones. Sweden seems to have such nice motorways and the traffic seems so orderly. I do hope to make it to Sweden at some point so that I can see your country (I'm just worried that I'll like it too much).

I meant to ask, how did the transition go from driving on the left to driving on the right? Were there many accidents, or was it a smooth transition? Was it done "overnight", or was it done region by region, or even county by county? I can only imagine the carnage that would occur if they tried to switch the UK (my homeland) to right hand drive, although now that I've lived in the US for +10 years, I actually prefer driving on the right, so driving on the left again would be weird.

I also like the lighting used on Swedish motorways - nice and wide.
It was done overnight (5 a.m Sep. 3, 1967) nationwide, but obviously after months of preparations. The transition was actuallly quite smooth, and the number of accidents dropped dramatically in the years that followed. The main reason for this was probably that cars in Sweden always had the steering wheel on the left side, even with left-hand traffic. Another important reason was that Sweden introduced speed limits outside built-up areas the same year.

What's funny is that there was actually a referendum on the issue, the Yes (to right-hand traffic) lost and over 80% of the voters wanted to keep driving on the left, but the government ignored it.

Sweden also saw a number of new traffic regulations that came into effect together with right-hand traffic, for example the colour of the central divider line changed from yellow to white.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #1298
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Add to that scenic rest areas, lots of service stations, many with restaurants. Many service stations are open 24h.
I dont agree with you on this, there are far to few service stations and restaurants along the motorways. Outside the major cities you are lucky if you find something proper to eat.
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And I don't agree with you. Lots and lots and lots of service areas on Swedish motorways, often with McDonald's or Burger King's...
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I dont agree with you on this, there are far to few service stations and restaurants along the motorways. Outside the major cities you are lucky if you find something proper to eat.
Depends on where you live. I drove all E4 from Helsingborg-Stockholm this year and there are numerous stops along the way.

Sillekrog, Stavsjö, Nyköpingsbro, Klinga, Herrbeta, Mobilia Mantorp, Östgötaporten...I can go on for ever. All those places have restaurants often McDonalds junk food.

In average it's about 50km between the truckstops.
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