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Old June 3rd, 2013, 05:12 AM   #1681
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Most of the network is in place. There are bottlenecks, of course, like in any other metropolitan area.

There are a few traffic light controlled intersections at the both ends of the Ring 1 to be removed. Some sections if the road will be upgraded to 3+3 lanes. A massive upgrade work in the Leppävaara area was completed last year.

The south end junction of the Ring 2 is a disaster. The upgrade plans are in place but the money is missing. The north leg (up to the road 3/E12) of the Ring 2 has been postponed until the undetermined future.

The middle section of the Ring 3 was recently upgraded by removing all level crossings. The section to the west of 3/E12 will be slightly upgraded by adding lanes and modernizing the junctions.

The radial roads are rather congested at the west side of the city. The motorway 51 is being extended and due to complete this year. The 1/E18 is very congested at the outbound direction, but no plans exist to ease the situation.

As the most of the growth of the Metropolitan area takes place outside of the Ring 3, I would expect most of the construction activities in the future to take place there.
The worst bottleneck with no plans at all is Ring 1 from Tuusula motorway to E75 with 2+2 lanes, AADT up to 80 000 and no upgrade plans! So is E12 south of Ring 3 with also very low-standard geometry. So the problem of the radials is that there are several sections with AADT higher than 50 000 but just 2+2 lanes and no plans or very far plans for upgrade and nothing happening in the nearby years.

Ring 3 was upgraded just partly - the third lanes on a section of AADT up to 90 000 and the completion of the junction with E12 is still missing and was moved recently to the future.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 12:21 PM   #1682
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The worst bottleneck with no plans at all is Ring 1 from Tuusula motorway to E75 with 2+2 lanes, AADT up to 80 000 and no upgrade plans! So is E12 south of Ring 3 with also very low-standard geometry. So the problem of the radials is that there are several sections with AADT higher than 50 000 but just 2+2 lanes and no plans or very far plans for upgrade and nothing happening in the nearby years.

Ring 3 was upgraded just partly - the third lanes on a section of AADT up to 90 000 and the completion of the junction with E12 is still missing and was moved recently to the future.
203 years since the not-so-peaceful separation, shouldn't we move to FIN-thread...?
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 05:09 PM   #1683
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203 years since the not-so-peaceful separation, shouldn't we move to FIN-thread...?
Refocusing to Sweden...

The fundamental difference between road network in Stockholm and Helsinki is that Finland made a very long-sighted decision on 1960s to build the city bypass in 15-20 km distance from the heart of the capital. Sweden decided to build Essingeleden instead.

Now, Sweden is creating something similar, the Stockholm bypass, with a huge cost and zillions of nimbys shouting not in my backyard. 50 years earlier, it would have had much easier, despite the geographical challenges.

I wonder why the Rv55 Norrköping-Uppsala has never been developed a competitive transport corridor to be an alternative to routing the traffic through Stockholm. The Uppsala-Enköping section is ok, but the remaining ones resemble a rural village road from the past.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #1684
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Now, Sweden is creating something similar, the Stockholm bypass, with a huge cost and zillions of nimbys shouting not in my backyard. 50 years earlier, it would have had much easier, despite the geographical challenges.
Not so much nimbys actually. Most of us yimbys are against it too, it'll just lead to more traffic, more sprawl and cost way too much. The money is more needed to build subways instead. Also, 3-4 smaller vconnections in the form of bridges would be cheaper and better.

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I wonder why the Rv55 Norrköping-Uppsala has never been developed a competitive transport corridor to be an alternative to routing the traffic through Stockholm. The Uppsala-Enköping section is ok, but the remaining ones resemble a rural village road from the past.
Actually... most of the traffic ALREADY goes that way. The traffic on Essingeleden almost all have destinations in or come from the Stockholm region.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 08:50 PM   #1685
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By the way, Fredhällstunneln (a part of Essingeleden) is one of the busiest tunnels in Europe. Essingeleden from above:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essingeleden
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Old June 11th, 2013, 08:30 PM   #1686
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National road 34. A 2+1 road at this section.

Temp at 6PM Sunny and ca 22 C. No rain for weeks.
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Old June 11th, 2013, 09:23 PM   #1687
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National road 34. A 2+1 road at this section.

Temp at 6PM Sunny and ca 22 C. No rain for weeks.
Nice pics, keep up the good work!
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Old June 14th, 2013, 05:52 PM   #1688
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Today the swedish road and railroad authority presented the infrastructure plan for 2014-2025: http://www.trafikverket.se/Aktuellt/...met-2014-2025/
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Old June 18th, 2013, 10:11 AM   #1689
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New photos of the E22 Rolsberga-Fogdarp construction works:









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Old June 18th, 2013, 10:45 AM   #1690
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Today the swedish road and railroad authority presented the infrastructure plan for 2014-2025: http://www.trafikverket.se/Aktuellt/...met-2014-2025/
Really disappointed, the bypass Stockholm should be removed in its current form. It is stupid to waste money and build a long tunnel even if there are no mountains. It would be much better if they first build östra länken and also finnish e18 rosenkälla söderhall which also wasnt in the plan.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 11:31 AM   #1691
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It is stupid to waste money and build a long tunnel even if there are no mountains.
Interesting.

It is the first time I hear that having mountains is a prerequisite to building tunnels. Usually, their purpose is to enable making new roads without causing major harm to the existing infrastructure.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 12:12 PM   #1692
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Really disappointed, the bypass Stockholm should be removed in its current form. It is stupid to waste money and build a long tunnel even if there are no mountains. It would be much better if they first build östra länken and also finnish e18 rosenkälla söderhall which also wasnt in the plan.
I'm in favour of the alternative Diagonal Ulvsunda which was scrapped for no obvious reason other than lobbying.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 01:52 PM   #1693
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Hello, I'm learning to much in Skyscraper forum. I have a question:

- There are some stretchs unfinished in swedish motorway system, why? I ask this because Sweden is one of the richest country in the world and it has the potenciality to built the roads that the government wants, as it?

(for example, Motorway 40 (E45) between Fristad and Tompa is unfinished, and is the main connection between Goteburg and Stockholm

- Is the government planned to built E18 and E20 motorways?

- And last question, in Sweden motorways have not toll? I see Google Maps and only I see a few motorways with tolls. (In Stockholm)

Thank you and have a nice day.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #1694
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The growth of the Swedish motorway network was rather slow initially. It wasn't until the 1990s that longer stretches of continuous motorway were available.

On the other hand nearly the entire current Stockholm motorway system was completed by 1972, except for the southern and northern links which were constructed after 2000.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 04:35 PM   #1695
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There are some stretchs unfinished in swedish motorway system, why? I ask this because Sweden is one of the richest country in the world and it has the potenciality to built the roads that the government wants, as it? (for example, Motorway 40 (E45) between Fristad and Tompa is unfinished, and is the main connection between Goteburg and Stockholm
Well, there is not really enough traffic to build an extensive motorway system in Sweden. We have a great network of national roads that are not motorway-classed and that is how it will remain I guess. They have been slowly finishing some missing links, but it will probably take until 2025 or 2030.

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And last question, in Sweden motorways have not toll? I see Google Maps and only I see a few motorways with tolls. (In Stockholm)
No toll, no vignette. All roads are free to use, even ferries that are part of the national network. The only exceptions are the Svinesund Bridge to Norway, the Öresund Bridge to Denmark and the congestion charge in Stockholm and Gothenburg.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 05:03 PM   #1696
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The growth of the Swedish motorway network was rather slow initially. It wasn't until the 1990s that longer stretches of continuous motorway were available.

On the other hand nearly the entire current Stockholm motorway system was completed by 1972, except for the southern and northern links which were constructed after 2000.
It should be noted, that these new narrow motorway-kind 2+2-laned roads in Sweden would not be considered as motorways in many countries.
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Old June 25th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #1697
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I was really shocked when I read that the worlds first depressed urban expressway was actually opened in Sweden in 1944! The construction of the so called Södergadan begun already in 1937, and it was replaced by a tunnel in the 1980's.

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B6dergatan,_Stockholm

http://www.historiskastockholm.se/sp...den-sodergatan

Anyways, could anyone tell me the story of Södergatan??

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Old June 25th, 2013, 04:05 PM   #1698
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The M-8 Freeway in Detroit opened in 1942 and is usually quoted as the first depressed freeway in the world. It was also one of the first 2x3 freeways.
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Old June 25th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #1699
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Well, the second one being in Sweden that early is a real surprise!
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