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Old December 3rd, 2013, 03:56 PM   #1821
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Status report on the construction of Norra Länken, Stockholm

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Old December 3rd, 2013, 05:11 PM   #1822
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Status report on the construction of Norra Länken, Stockholm
Looks cool but it's always disturbing when you think about how much tax money they waste on these silly tunnels up there, it's not like the land above is A that urban and B that expensive to buy or C most likely they already own land for roads there.
This goes for the planned new E4 and the finished link going E-W south of S-Malm, it's just crazy how they waste money...
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 05:15 PM   #1823
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Well, we don't live in the 1960s anymore. Any new motorway in an urban area requires significant mitigation nowadays, including tunnels.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 05:17 PM   #1824
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The waste is certainly not in putting the motorways in tunnels. It's taken time due tower-in-a-park sprawl being the planning dogma för decades, but we're now starting to see new areas built that are real urbanity. Hagastan will be on top of parts of Norra Länken. Parts of the roads that were replaced by Södra Länken are slated for development too, with vibrant urbanity as the stated goal.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 05:48 PM   #1825
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I cant fathom why there's still no decision to build östra länken over djurgården. Norra länken is almost complete, the distance from sickla to värtan can't be more than a few kilometers and the politicians would get the second bypass that they so desperately want.
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Old December 3rd, 2013, 06:40 PM   #1826
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Some new aerial photos of the E22 Sölve-Stensnäs (completed December 2014): Click here
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Old December 4th, 2013, 02:40 AM   #1827
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How I hope there neither were Greens with 25% support in Helsinki. Great project (Norra Länken)!
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Old December 4th, 2013, 07:18 PM   #1828
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National road 25/27/30 motorway in Växjö today.

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Old December 4th, 2013, 07:50 PM   #1829
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Last time it took me almost half an hour from exiting TallinkSilja's terminal area to entering the E4.

And with Norra Länken, what? 3 minutes? Can't wait for that...

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How I hope there neither were Greens with 25% support in Helsinki. Great project (Norra Länken)!
I don't even get what the Greens' problem is with the Helsinki central tunnel. Smoother traffic underground => more cars underground => less cars overground on the streets in the city centre bypassed by the tunnel => more space for pedestrians, bicyclists and collective transport there. Isn't that what they have always wanted?

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Old December 9th, 2013, 03:22 AM   #1830
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Old December 10th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #1831
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The Swedish government has given go-ahead for the new motorway stretch south of Sundsvall on E4, rejecting five appeals to the project. Thus, construction can finally begin

Article (Swedish): http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/hel...e4-i-sundsvall

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Total length: 20km (With the already existing motorway north of the city, Sundsvall will have around 30km of motorway when this project is completed)
Width: 21,5 and 18,5m
Number of interchanges: 5
Bridge length: 1420m
Estimated cost: 4,5 billion SEK
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Old December 15th, 2013, 10:55 AM   #1832
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Just driven the E45 banaväg yesterday and noticed it had those small air-strip style led lights on a stick, white in the median and orange on the sides. Are these to be found on other Swedish roads aswell? (Such lights have been installed on sections of E6 in Norway to.) From the video posted earlier they appear to be on the new motala road - but it's hard to tell as they look quite simular to ordinary reflectors.

Couldn't find a photo of them at night - but you can see the small lights in this day-time photo:
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http://www.autobahn-bilder.de/inlines/e45schw.htm
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Old December 17th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #1833
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What do you guys think about the new proposed length and weight of future trucks in Sweden? Europe doesn't want bigger trucks apparently, so they will not go cross border I guess.
Trucks 31.4 meters long and max weight of 78 ton are going to run up and down R1 Södertälje - Malmö, no date yet.
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There has been projects using 2 trailers on one truck for years in the north, it's now coming to south Sweden.




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Old December 17th, 2013, 05:43 PM   #1834
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I believe Norway is also willing to increase the length of logging trucks. Not sure if they are as long as these in Sweden. They are excellent in improving economies of scale in rural parts of Sweden.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 05:51 PM   #1835
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I believe Norway is also willing to increase the length of logging trucks. Not sure if they are as long as these in Sweden. They are excellent in improving economies of scale in rural parts of Sweden.
Yeah up north it's no problem with space but what about next step, regular cargo trucks and on the E4/E6 Malmö -Södertälje(S Stockholm).
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:14 PM   #1836
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Bygg.no also reported on long trucks today. They claim a 60 tonne truck emits 25% less CO2 per moved m³ than a 48 tonne truck. It is specifically about logging trucks.

http://www.bygg.no/article/1177377
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Old December 17th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #1837
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How does the asphalt pavement react to that weight? Usually regular trucks are up to 40 tons.
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Total weight doesn't really matter, axle load does. These 60 tonne trucks have more axles to distribute the load. Most modern roadways are designed for 11.5 tonnes per axle.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 11:31 PM   #1839
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Total weight doesn't really matter, axle load does. These 60 tonne trucks have more axles to distribute the load.
It does matter. The deterioration of the road structure is proportional to the number of axles moving on the road, expressed as millions of equivalent standard axles. When then total weight increases, the number of standard axles increase even if the impact of a single axle remains the same. The dynamic load is the main source of the deterioration, not the static one derived from the mass and the number of axles. The inter-axle distance and tire configuration have a major influence on the dynamic load characteristics.

Finland increased recently the maximum load of a vehicle from 60 tons to 76 tons. It will take years to see if the existing deterioration models are valid for these new vehicles.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 11:35 PM   #1840
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A few more or less axles isn't really going to make a measurable difference. It's not like there will be hundreds or thousands of such long trucks per day on a given road. It's Sweden after all, not some motorway in Germany with 15 000 trucks per day.
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