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Old April 10th, 2014, 10:03 PM   #1881
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How many kilometars of motorways does Sweden has ?
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Old April 10th, 2014, 10:10 PM   #1882
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The government wants to complete a full motorway ring around Stockholm and just promised 2 bln SEK for that purpose. The Eastern Connection (Östliga förbindelsen, previously planned as Österleden) is to be in form of a tunnel between the Northern Link and Southern Link.

http://www.dn.se/sthlm/miljarder-sat...l-i-stockholm/
And we just cancelled Ring II and Central tunnel and maybe even inner ring (Hakamäentie) spurs... Sweden must be proud that Greens have not been in any government and don't have a support of 25% in the capital.
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Old April 11th, 2014, 12:32 AM   #1883
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How come Rotebroleden (http://www.trafikverket.se/Privat/Pr...ket---Rotebro/) isn't mentioned at all In that list? Or am I missing something? Seems strange. After all construction should start soon AFAIK.
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Old April 11th, 2014, 12:37 AM   #1884
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It's a county road projekt, not national.
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Old April 18th, 2014, 01:49 AM   #1885
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Video tour of my most used motorway, Vellinge - Malmö is concrete as can be seen here.

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Old April 21st, 2014, 09:53 PM   #1886
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Going to Öland soon, will drive this road.

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Old April 22nd, 2014, 03:15 AM   #1887
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Video tour of my most used motorway, Vellinge - Malmö is concrete as can be seen here.
Nice video, but through Malmo and only two SAAB on the road? Terrible
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 12:01 PM   #1888
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To sum up my roadtrip to Stockholm this easter.

On our way up to Stockholm on thursday, traffic was dense between Linköping-Norrköping, a bit more cars than usual due to some roadwork.




On our way home there were congestions and queues. Traffic on the E4 south of Skärholmen (Stockholm) had almost completely stopped.

We drove off at Hallunda and decided to take the old sideroad to Södertälje to avoid the standstill on the E4 but it didnt take long until we were stuck in traffic on that sideroad too.
Not only we had come up with the idea to take that alternative route.
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Old April 26th, 2014, 11:22 PM   #1889
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Szczecin/Poland - Installation section of the bridge being built for Sweden/Sundsvall:

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Old April 30th, 2014, 11:45 AM   #1890
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Toll on the Motala bridge

There will be a toll on crossing the newly built rv 50 bridge in Motala. The new agreement with Trafikverket was signed today and fees will be collected starting on the 1st of January 2015 assuming they've worked out a way to collect toll from foreign vehicles too. The charge is 5 SEK (0,55 €) for cars and 11 SEK (1,21 €) for lorries/trucks, significantly lower than the proposed 10 SEK for cars/100 SEK for lorries.

Source in the local newspaper (Swedish)
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Old April 30th, 2014, 11:58 AM   #1891
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Not a good way to promote the new bypass route
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 09:07 PM   #1892
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Not a good way to promote the new bypass route
Hmm......well, like it or not, transport infrastructure costs money. Someone has to foot the bill.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 09:10 PM   #1893
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There is no precedent to such toll roads in Sweden. Roads in Sweden are toll free, except for the congestion charges in Stockholm and Göteborg. The Motala Bridge is a bit of an outlier in that aspect.

I assume they want to introduce all-electronic tolling? I doubt if it is worthwhile to pursue tolls by foreign drivers. The amount of foreign drivers on that link is likely very low. For example the share of foreign cars & trucks in the Netherlands is only 2.5% and it is likely lower in Sweden.
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 09:16 PM   #1894
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Hmm......well, like it or not, transport infrastructure costs money. Someone has to foot the bill.
Ohh yeah your right, maybe the worlds highest taxes could pay for that?

Sweden have very high tax on gas, 25% VAT is even drawn on the high gas tax(tax on tax baby), then there is a vehicle registration tax.
Very little of all the car-taxes actually go back to roads, put simply, Swedish drivers are getting f**ked up good by the state.
Now even more with tolls and congestions charges on top of extreme taxes.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 07:12 PM   #1895
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There is no precedent to such toll roads in Sweden. Roads in Sweden are toll free, except for the congestion charges in Stockholm and Göteborg. The Motala Bridge is a bit of an outlier in that aspect.

I assume they want to introduce all-electronic tolling? I doubt if it is worthwhile to pursue tolls by foreign drivers. The amount of foreign drivers on that link is likely very low. For example the share of foreign cars & trucks in the Netherlands is only 2.5% and it is likely lower in Sweden.
Hmm.......interesting.

Question though: In the case of Sweden, what is the percentage of road infrastructure that was funded by government/public sector?

And what is the percentage that is funded by the private sector?

I guess that's an important question to ask then......because if it's funded by government/public sector, then yeah there shouldn't be any tolls or charges (since taxes pay for that, correct?)

But if it's built using private sector (i.e. no cost to the government or taxpayers), then I guess tolls can be justified in this case.

The determinant is well yeah: Who is the one that is funding it....
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 07:50 PM   #1896
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As far as I know only the Øresund Bridge between Sweden and Denmark is a private concession. All other roads are funded through taxes. Swedish taxes are among the highest in the world.

In most European countries, motorists pay much more taxes than is invested in the road network. I don't know the figures for Sweden, but for example in the Netherlands the amount of direct taxes (excluding VAT) on owning and driving a car is about 4 times that of the nationwide road budget.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 10:37 PM   #1897
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As far as I know only the Øresund Bridge between Sweden and Denmark is a private concession. All other roads are funded through taxes. Swedish taxes are among the highest in the world.

In most European countries, motorists pay much more taxes than is invested in the road network. I don't know the figures for Sweden, but for example in the Netherlands the amount of direct taxes (excluding VAT) on owning and driving a car is about 4 times that of the nationwide road budget.
Hmm.......now that you mention it, all I have to say is wow. I guess a lot of EU governments are discouraging or limiting the number of cars on the road through the use of high taxes and fees.

Did I understand it correctly?

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With that in mind, I wonder how Volvo Cars A.B. feels about this and how this affects the domestic market for their vehicles (amidst all these high taxes, restrictions and fees like Stockholm Congestion Charge)
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:09 PM   #1898
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Hmm.......now that you mention it, all I have to say is wow. I guess a lot of EU governments are discouraging or limiting the number of cars on the road through the use of high taxes and fees.
A new vehicle tax will be introduced in 2015. This tax will be benefit the owners of fuel efficient cars.

The new vehicle taxation will be introduced in 2015 if approved, will have a breakpoint of 120 grams of carbon dioxide per km and a weight of 1 372 kg - which is the average weight of new cars.

Cars which deviate from this breakpoint will be rewarded or punished by 375 SEK (57 $) for each gram.

This means that a car of medium weight that emits 200 grams of carbon dioxide will be penalized by 30 000 SEK (4594 $) For example, a Volvo V70 T6.
At the same time, the cars with zero emissions, such as electric cars are to be given a bonus of 45 000SEK (6892 $)
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:45 PM   #1899
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Taxes on gas/cars have nothing to do with the environment, it is however by far the easiest way to retrieve enormous amounts of wealth from the ppl.
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And that's why more young ppl in Sweden have flown across the world to Thailand(spewing insane amounts of CO2 on the way) then visited Scania, Öland or Lappland for example. Many have not been far at all, it's crazy.

Of course life in the vast backwoods of Sweden is dead or dieing because of the taxes, but nobody actually cares about that.
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Old May 5th, 2014, 01:47 PM   #1900
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Roadwork going on outside Linköping resulting in queues. A layer of asphalt is put on a roundabout.

The trip Linghem-Linköping took at least 15 min of additional time.
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