2030, GDP of $1 Trillion and GDP Per Capita of $10,000? - Page 7

Narongchai_thi · April 29th, 2009, 05:32 AM

FYI >>>>>>> The per-capita GDP forcast for the ASEAN countries in Dollars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...pita_estimates

from "International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database, April 2009.
"

Country 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 Estimate as of

Brunei 36,680 38,416 39,352 39,123 39,791 40,078 April 2009

Cambodia 853 858 926 1,001 1,093 1,199 April 2009

Indonesia 2,029 2,155 2,281 2,420 2,580 2,759 April 2009

Laos 875 904 968 1,028 1,094 1,194 April 2009

Malaysia 7,653 7,817 8,197 8,716 9,312 9,948 April 2009

Burma 490 500 510 520 530 541 April 2009

Philippines 2,123 2,427 2,714 3,024 3,243 3,529 April 2009

Singapore 37,169 37,416 39,536 42,171 45,032 47,598 April 2009

Timor-Leste 551 637 731 841 988 1,163 April 2009

Thailand 4,004 4,134 4,351 4,627 4,948 5,287 April 2009

Vietnam 1,018 1,060 1,120 1,198 1,292 1,385 April 2009

LamDai · April 29th, 2009, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narongchai_thi

FYI >>>>>>> The per-capita GDP forcast for the ASEAN countries in Dollars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...pita_estimates

Country 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 Estimate as of

Brunei 36,680 38,416 39,352 39,123 39,791 40,078 April 2009

Cambodia 853 858 926 1,001 1,093 1,199 April 2009

Indonesia 2,029 2,155 2,281 2,420 2,580 2,759 April 2009

Laos 875 904 968 1,028 1,094 1,194 April 2009

Malaysia 7,653 7,817 8,197 8,716 9,312 9,948 April 2009

Burma 490 500 510 520 530 541 April 2009

Philippines 2,123 2,427 2,714 3,024 3,243 3,529 April 2009

Singapore 37,169 37,416 39,536 42,171 45,032 47,598 April 2009

Timor-Leste 551 637 731 841 988 1,163 April 2009

Thailand 4,004 4,134 4,351 4,627 4,948 5,287 April 2009

Vietnam 1,018 1,060 1,120 1,198 1,292 1,385 April 2009

This list is not really believable ! Asian countries' economies are growing rapidly . 2007 Vietnam : 821USD -> 2008 : 1024 USD

According to this list 2008 : 1018 -> 2009 : 1060 ???? Too slow !!!!

Narongchai_thi · April 29th, 2009, 06:32 AM

2007 Vietnam : 821USD -> 2008 : 1024 USD ------ I may understand that 200 us dollars increase in Vietnam per capita GDP is from high real GDP growth + Inflation. Don't forget that last year Vietnam's inflation rate was > 20 %.

According to this list 2008 : 1018 -> 2009 : 1060 ???? Too slow !!!! -------- This could be a negative effect of the current global economic crisis. The first quarter GDP growth rate in Vietnam is about 3.5 % (much lower than last year in the same period). This same situation will happen for almost all countries. Please look at Singapore Malaysia Thailand and etc.

Narongchai_thi · April 29th, 2009, 06:38 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...pita_estimates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the valid link. Sorry for any inconvenience.

List of countries by future GDP (nominal) per capita estimates

bagak · April 29th, 2009, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narongchai_thi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...pita_estimates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the valid link. Sorry for any inconvenience.

List of countries by future GDP (nominal) per capita estimates

Greetings from Jakarta, I don't think that source is valid since in Indonesia we experience a significant increase in our GDP percapita, and please don't use Wikipedia as your source, coz any one can change it, even my 10 yo nephew...

mbokudake · April 29th, 2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bagak

Greetings from Jakarta, I don't think that source is valid since in Indonesia we experience a significant increase in our GDP percapita, and please don't use Wikipedia as your source, coz any one can change it, even my 10 yo nephew...

It's somewhat accurate and reasonable to some extent, though. The Wiki has made referencing directly from the IMF. Check it out by yourself from the bottom link.

Narongchai_thi · April 29th, 2009, 04:16 PM

some more related topics from WIKIPEDIA:
List of countries by future GDP (nominal) estimates
List of countries by future GDP (PPP) estimates
List of countries by future GDP (PPP) per capita estimates
List of countries by future GDP (nominal) per capita estimates

In my opinion, WIKIPEDIA is the best primary information source for anyone to see. If we want something more reliable, we have to go to some other related agency's websites.

Actually, it's from IMF World Economic Outlook April 2009 >>>>>>>>> You "Bagak" can check it.

BetterFuture · May 16th, 2009, 02:22 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...estimates_(PPP)

GDP (PPP) per capita list (sortable; in international dollars)[1]
Country 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 Base year

India 2,873 3,005 3,187 3,433 3,730 4,056 2008
Vietnam 2,862 2,948 3,087 3,292 3,542 3,816 2007
Pakistan 2,790 2,857 2,959 3,122 3,310 3,563 2008
Uzbekistan 2,784 2,956 3,144 3,357 3,584 3,829 2008
Nicaragua 2,669 2,650 2,663 2,784 2,951 3,130 2003
Yemen 2,543 2,597 2,638 2,716 2,810 2,909 2007
Timor-Leste 2,506 2,663 2,823 3,029 3,325 3,657 2007
Djibouti 2,476 2,556 2,654 2,793 2,965 3,161 —
Sudan 2,357 2,424 2,496 2,575 2,678 2,794 2006
Laos 2,279 2,352 2,496 2,650 2,826 3,086 2005
Kyrgyzstan 2,197 2,240 2,317 2,422 2,559 2,725 2006
Cameroon 2,165 2,177 2,222 2,291 2,381 2,481 2004
Papua New Guinea 2,158 2,197 2,231 2,279 2,380 2,485 2000
Nigeria 2,156 2,162 2,220 2,320 2,447 2,582 2005
Solomon Islands 2,090 2,112 2,176 2,263 2,381 2,605 2006
Mauritania 2,070 2,125 2,206 2,473 2,653 2,799 2004
Tajikistan 2,066 2,125 2,231 2,385 2,586 2,805 2007
Cambodia 2,034 2,063 2,180 2,321 2,489 2,674 2007
São Tomé and Príncipe 1,824 1,910 2,023 2,171 2,351 2,545 2005
Senegal 1,765 1,790 1,835 1,906 1,990 2,079 2008
Kenya 1,751 1,797 1,865 1,977 2,110 2,253 2003
Chad 1,677 1,685 1,702 1,718 1,749 1,771 2004
Côte d'Ivoire 1,667 1,693 1,731 1,795 1,880 1,973 2007
Benin 1,630 1,634 1,683 1,754 1,836 1,923 2002
Ghana 1,564 1,604 1,837 1,944 2,041 2,148 —
Bangladesh 1,446 1,503 1,574 1,673 1,793 1,922 2007
Zambia 1,435 1,472 1,518 1,594 1,681 1,774 2003
Gambia 1,421 1,453 1,497 1,561 1,635 1,715 2008
Tanzania 1,404 1,461 1,543 1,650 1,773 1,906 2001
Haiti 1,318 1,326 1,370 1,436 1,514 1,601 2006
Lesotho 1,299 1,319 1,366 1,424 1,489 1,557 2006
Burkina Faso 1,293 1,321 1,368 1,438 1,519 1,606 2003
Burma 1,205 1,235 1,266 1,311 1,363 1,418 2006
Uganda 1,192 1,219 1,263 1,323 1,393 1,468 2007
Nepal 1,183 1,215 1,268 1,340 1,428 1,522 —
Mali 1,154 1,179 1,213 1,264 1,322 1,392 2008
Comoros 1,151 1,149 1,161 1,194 1,240 1,288 2003
Rwanda 1,087 1,131 1,180 1,244 1,318 1,396 2006
Guinea 1,006 1,019 1,039 1,074 1,116 1,160 2008
Madagascar 957 956 972 1,015 1,067 1,122 2006
Ethiopia 940 982 1,032 1,097 1,174 1,258 2006
Mozambique 925 948 976 1,025 1,091 1,161 2007
Malawi 842 892 954 1,031 1,108 1,166 2004
Afghanistan 812 850 900 969 1,051 1,142 2007
Togo 811 811 828 852 881 911 2001
Central African Republic 749 760 779 814 854 897 2004
Niger 745 758 773 854 885 925 2005
Sierra Leone 745 768 798 840 888 932 2005
Eritrea 740 754 774 793 822 839 2006
Guinea-Bissau 485 488 494 508 525 543 2004
Burundi 399 408 417 433 454 476 —
Liberia 376 389 417 462 516 578 2008
Democratic Republic of the Congo 330 340 358 377 406 432 1983

chinatown · May 17th, 2009, 03:48 AM

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Mynameischarlie · May 17th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Cool let's do nothing and everone will be prosperous and overweight with 2 cars in front of the house and not being to repay the loans from the banks....

BetterFuture · May 31st, 2009, 05:14 PM

2008: http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/fs/

Malaysia
GDP per capita (US$): 7,654
GDP per capita PPP (US$) ©: 13,477

Thailand
GDP per capita (US$): 4,005
GDP per capita PPP (US$) ©: 7,975

Vietnam
GDP per capita (US$): 1,047
GDP per capita PPP (US$) ©: 2,774

JohnneTr · July 21st, 2009, 09:59 PM

Any update?

asiapacific · August 18th, 2009, 01:23 PM

nothing is impossible. According to the 2010 annual plan, GDP per Capita will be about 1220 USD. And we both know, 2008 - 2010 period is the most horrible depression of Economy. No doubt that GDP increases so slowly. But after that, what will happen? Noone knows. So the best way is doing everything with your best and hope everything will be better.

vn1975victory · August 18th, 2009, 06:39 PM

1 Trillion and $10000 per capita? What year of the US dollar these figures base on?
If it's 2009 dollar then it's impossible. Dreaming cannot not change a nation.
If it's 2030 dollar then it's possible, if there is hyperinflation of the US dollar. But then $10000 may buy you the same things as $1000 now.

By the way, I'm not worrying too much about the speed of growth, but more about the quality of growth. We need to be able to make things that other people pay more money for, the high tech and/or high quality stuff, instead of rice and fruits. We need to make things that we can use to defend ourselves. We can choose to have more money, but when the difficult time comes, money alone can't save you.

Countries like South Korea or India is what I like.

KoolKool · August 18th, 2009, 06:51 PM

Wait for boom economic!

Viet Nam has a great potential. I'm sure

Maybe some bonus..........!

***7freedom7*** · August 18th, 2009, 08:47 PM

Taking into account of the culture and politics of Vietnam, $10000 per capita over the next twenty years or beyond is very possible, similar with Japan, Taiwan, S.Korea and Singapore belonging to the Confucian cultural circle who traditionally values education and family ties, the ppl diligent and smart and plus the society in good order, so it's quite quite quite possible. And the proper models you can follow are South Korea and Taiwan, either to build several multinational companies by country or a bunch of small-size/mid-size high-tech enterprises by her ppl. Either way will do!

Quote:

Originally Posted by vn1975victory

Countries like South Korea or India is what I like.

But why India? Vietnam is too much different from Inida, not in the same league. And according to my experience, in many aspects India is not even so good as Vietnam now.

nguoidoi · August 19th, 2009, 12:36 PM

It's a sweet dream of all Vietnamese.

tiger · August 19th, 2009, 05:25 PM

Vietnam to follow East Asian tigers where Chinese dominate? Impossible.

Vietnam will be likely to develop into the same league with Philippines or Indonesia. As developed as Thailand at best.

Vietnam is now as developed as India whereas India is even growing slightly faster than Viet Nam. T

***7freedom7*** · August 19th, 2009, 06:46 PM

In fact, Thailand is able to be considered as a Confucian society to some extent, considering there are many Chinese descendants living Bangkok and other major cities. But Thailand lacks a strong government and a stable political environment so that their numerous small national companies can't act in their own and gain the best interests when dealing with those foreign multinational enterprise which are as rich as a country and end up with their OEMs at the bottom of the value chain. In this case, Malaysia did a little better than Thailand, and Philippines, sorry, she is much worse than Thailand. As to India, it's a wrong comparison in any way

nguoidoi · August 21st, 2009, 08:19 AM

It can be a true dream if from now to 2030, every year vietnam economy have to grow over 8% per year.

April 29th, 2009, 05:32 AM	#121
Narongchai_thi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 238 Likes (Received): 0	FYI >>>>>>> The per-capita GDP forcast for the ASEAN countries in Dollars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...pita_estimates from "International Monetary Fund, World Economic Outlook Database, April 2009. " Country 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 Estimate as of Brunei 36,680 38,416 39,352 39,123 39,791 40,078 April 2009 Cambodia 853 858 926 1,001 1,093 1,199 April 2009 Indonesia 2,029 2,155 2,281 2,420 2,580 2,759 April 2009 Laos 875 904 968 1,028 1,094 1,194 April 2009 Malaysia 7,653 7,817 8,197 8,716 9,312 9,948 April 2009 Burma 490 500 510 520 530 541 April 2009 Philippines 2,123 2,427 2,714 3,024 3,243 3,529 April 2009 Singapore 37,169 37,416 39,536 42,171 45,032 47,598 April 2009 Timor-Leste 551 637 731 841 988 1,163 April 2009 Thailand 4,004 4,134 4,351 4,627 4,948 5,287 April 2009 Vietnam 1,018 1,060 1,120 1,198 1,292 1,385 April 2009 Last edited by Narongchai_thi; April 29th, 2009 at 05:44 PM. Reason: add more details for the information source

April 29th, 2009, 04:16 PM	#127
Narongchai_thi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 238 Likes (Received): 0	some more related topics from WIKIPEDIA: List of countries by future GDP (nominal) estimates List of countries by future GDP (PPP) estimates List of countries by future GDP (PPP) per capita estimates List of countries by future GDP (nominal) per capita estimates In my opinion, WIKIPEDIA is the best primary information source for anyone to see. If we want something more reliable, we have to go to some other related agency's websites. Actually, it's from IMF World Economic Outlook April 2009 >>>>>>>>> You "Bagak" can check it. Last edited by Narongchai_thi; April 29th, 2009 at 09:24 PM.

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vn1975victory BANNED Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 303 Likes (Received): 0	1 Trillion and $10000 per capita? What year of the US dollar these figures base on? If it's 2009 dollar then it's impossible. Dreaming cannot not change a nation. If it's 2030 dollar then it's possible, if there is hyperinflation of the US dollar. But then $10000 may buy you the same things as $1000 now. By the way, I'm not worrying too much about the speed of growth, but more about the quality of growth. We need to be able to make things that other people pay more money for, the high tech and/or high quality stuff, instead of rice and fruits. We need to make things that we can use to defend ourselves. We can choose to have more money, but when the difficult time comes, money alone can't save you. Countries like South Korea or India is what I like. Last edited by vn1975victory; August 18th, 2009 at 06:47 PM.

August 18th, 2009, 06:51 PM	#135
KoolKool Naked dream :) Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vũng Tàu - Biolab Posts: 9,262 Likes (Received): 77	Wait for boom economic! Viet Nam has a great potential. I'm sure Maybe some bonus..........! __________________ MMMMMMMM

April 29th, 2009, 06:32 AM	#123
Narongchai_thi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 238 Likes (Received): 0	2007 Vietnam : 821USD -> 2008 : 1024 USD ------ I may understand that 200 us dollars increase in Vietnam per capita GDP is from high real GDP growth + Inflation. Don't forget that last year Vietnam's inflation rate was > 20 %. According to this list 2008 : 1018 -> 2009 : 1060 ???? Too slow !!!! -------- This could be a negative effect of the current global economic crisis. The first quarter GDP growth rate in Vietnam is about 3.5 % (much lower than last year in the same period). This same situation will happen for almost all countries. Please look at Singapore Malaysia Thailand and etc.

April 29th, 2009, 06:38 AM	#124
Narongchai_thi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 238 Likes (Received): 0	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...pita_estimates >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the valid link. Sorry for any inconvenience. List of countries by future GDP (nominal) per capita estimates

May 16th, 2009, 02:22 AM	#128
BetterFuture Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 670 Likes (Received): 1	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...estimates_(PPP) GDP (PPP) per capita list (sortable; in international dollars)[1] Country 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 Base year India 2,873 3,005 3,187 3,433 3,730 4,056 2008 Vietnam 2,862 2,948 3,087 3,292 3,542 3,816 2007 Pakistan 2,790 2,857 2,959 3,122 3,310 3,563 2008 Uzbekistan 2,784 2,956 3,144 3,357 3,584 3,829 2008 Nicaragua 2,669 2,650 2,663 2,784 2,951 3,130 2003 Yemen 2,543 2,597 2,638 2,716 2,810 2,909 2007 Timor-Leste 2,506 2,663 2,823 3,029 3,325 3,657 2007 Djibouti 2,476 2,556 2,654 2,793 2,965 3,161 — Sudan 2,357 2,424 2,496 2,575 2,678 2,794 2006 Laos 2,279 2,352 2,496 2,650 2,826 3,086 2005 Kyrgyzstan 2,197 2,240 2,317 2,422 2,559 2,725 2006 Cameroon 2,165 2,177 2,222 2,291 2,381 2,481 2004 Papua New Guinea 2,158 2,197 2,231 2,279 2,380 2,485 2000 Nigeria 2,156 2,162 2,220 2,320 2,447 2,582 2005 Solomon Islands 2,090 2,112 2,176 2,263 2,381 2,605 2006 Mauritania 2,070 2,125 2,206 2,473 2,653 2,799 2004 Tajikistan 2,066 2,125 2,231 2,385 2,586 2,805 2007 Cambodia 2,034 2,063 2,180 2,321 2,489 2,674 2007 São Tomé and Príncipe 1,824 1,910 2,023 2,171 2,351 2,545 2005 Senegal 1,765 1,790 1,835 1,906 1,990 2,079 2008 Kenya 1,751 1,797 1,865 1,977 2,110 2,253 2003 Chad 1,677 1,685 1,702 1,718 1,749 1,771 2004 Côte d'Ivoire 1,667 1,693 1,731 1,795 1,880 1,973 2007 Benin 1,630 1,634 1,683 1,754 1,836 1,923 2002 Ghana 1,564 1,604 1,837 1,944 2,041 2,148 — Bangladesh 1,446 1,503 1,574 1,673 1,793 1,922 2007 Zambia 1,435 1,472 1,518 1,594 1,681 1,774 2003 Gambia 1,421 1,453 1,497 1,561 1,635 1,715 2008 Tanzania 1,404 1,461 1,543 1,650 1,773 1,906 2001 Haiti 1,318 1,326 1,370 1,436 1,514 1,601 2006 Lesotho 1,299 1,319 1,366 1,424 1,489 1,557 2006 Burkina Faso 1,293 1,321 1,368 1,438 1,519 1,606 2003 Burma 1,205 1,235 1,266 1,311 1,363 1,418 2006 Uganda 1,192 1,219 1,263 1,323 1,393 1,468 2007 Nepal 1,183 1,215 1,268 1,340 1,428 1,522 — Mali 1,154 1,179 1,213 1,264 1,322 1,392 2008 Comoros 1,151 1,149 1,161 1,194 1,240 1,288 2003 Rwanda 1,087 1,131 1,180 1,244 1,318 1,396 2006 Guinea 1,006 1,019 1,039 1,074 1,116 1,160 2008 Madagascar 957 956 972 1,015 1,067 1,122 2006 Ethiopia 940 982 1,032 1,097 1,174 1,258 2006 Mozambique 925 948 976 1,025 1,091 1,161 2007 Malawi 842 892 954 1,031 1,108 1,166 2004 Afghanistan 812 850 900 969 1,051 1,142 2007 Togo 811 811 828 852 881 911 2001 Central African Republic 749 760 779 814 854 897 2004 Niger 745 758 773 854 885 925 2005 Sierra Leone 745 768 798 840 888 932 2005 Eritrea 740 754 774 793 822 839 2006 Guinea-Bissau 485 488 494 508 525 543 2004 Burundi 399 408 417 433 454 476 — Liberia 376 389 417 462 516 578 2008 Democratic Republic of the Congo 330 340 358 377 406 432 1983

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May 31st, 2009, 05:14 PM	#131
BetterFuture Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 670 Likes (Received): 1	2008: http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/fs/ Malaysia GDP per capita (US$): 7,654 GDP per capita PPP (US$) ©: 13,477 Thailand GDP per capita (US$): 4,005 GDP per capita PPP (US$) ©: 7,975 Vietnam GDP per capita (US$): 1,047 GDP per capita PPP (US$) ©: 2,774

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August 18th, 2009, 01:23 PM	#133
asiapacific Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 121 Likes (Received): 0	nothing is impossible. According to the 2010 annual plan, GDP per Capita will be about 1220 USD. And we both know, 2008 - 2010 period is the most horrible depression of Economy. No doubt that GDP increases so slowly. But after that, what will happen? Noone knows. So the best way is doing everything with your best and hope everything will be better.

August 19th, 2009, 12:36 PM	#137
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