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Old March 17th, 2008, 08:02 AM   #81
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They deserve to be torn down eventually.

Problem is that most of the major cities in spain are absolutely saturated with those horrible orange brick pisos . Where do you start ?
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Old March 18th, 2008, 02:13 AM   #82
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Don't get me wrong . Without getting into too much detail . I am strictly reffering to very short term foreign tourists . 90 % of the ones i have met have very much liked Barcelona more . How ever the majority of the ones that either studied or worked in both cities have very much preffered Madrid .
Why? Simple really . Like myself they were fortunate enough to get to know both cities properly . Whereas Barcelona instantly catches the eye with its spectacular birds eye views from Montjuic or Tibidabo . With it's magnificent Gaudii architecture , grand avenues and ofcourse the sea . Madrid takes alot longer to know .
The longer i lived in Barcelona the more i missed Madrid . Madrid has a dynamism ( especially in the late hours ) that doesn't exist in Barcelona . Believe me . Apart from the very hectic summer months you would find Barcelona quite boring when compared to Madrid . Madrid is the quentiessential Spanish metropolis . It is the center of what was once the great Spanish empire . Barcelona doesn't play much of a roll in that sense . It is pretty much Catalan . If you want to see more beautifull old architecture and significantly more important historicall towns then Barcelonas old town , from Madrid all one needs to do is go for a day trip to towns such as Salamanca or Segovia or Avila etc....
Madrid is Spains economic engine these days . It is also the fashion and shopping capital . It is also the real deal when it comes to anything famos amongst Spain .Be it tapas, flamenco, bullfighting and especially nightlife . In short . The good life .
I also much rather prefer Madrids center . It is a perfect mix of narrow winding streets ( which seems to be made for walking and having fun ) . Unlike Barcelona where everything is more spread out and harder to get to apart from the famed Ramblas . And though Barcelona is full of impressive long and wide avenues . Madrid does have the most impressive avenue in Spain if not Europe . The paseo del Prado .
Plus Madrids beautiful parks are incomparable . And thankfully they are now at last building some of the most awsome architectural projects on the planet apart from the ones they have already built . And last but not least . The city does possess the biggest football club in the world in Real Madrid .
All in All if i had to live in Spain the only city that comes to mind is Madrid .
What is it with this Madrid vs Barcelona thing anyway, it seems to be more than just the football thingy? I have been to both cities several times and I don't think you can compare them that easy, both have their strongs and weekness, but comparable IMO not, they are just to different on almost every aspect.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:51 AM   #83
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Civil Court for Madrid from Zaha Hadid

by Ali Kriscenski
March 17, 2008
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It is difficult to ignore the designs of Pritzker Prize winning architect Zaha Hadid. Bold, brave, often controversial - her ambitious experiments in form always seem to stir discourse and debate. Hadid’s design for the new civil courts building in Madrid is no exception. Planned as part of the new Campus de la Justicia at Valdebebas in the Spanish capital city, Hadid’s Civil Court is expected to become a focal point among works from Norman Foster, IM Pei and others. While we are not always big fans of Hadid’s obsession with form, we are intrigued by the “intelligent” façade of this Madrid courthouse, that in addition to being extremely eye-catching, is intended to regulate the building’s indoor environment.



It is of course the intelligent façade that caught our eye with this design. Made of metallic panels, this double-ventilated envelope is a dynamic, moving component that will respond to the environment by opening and closing. We only have an abstract understanding based on the architect’s website, but it sounds like heating, cooling and ventilation will all be moderated and control through this intelligent façade. On the roof, these metal panels will include integrated photovoltaic cells.

The proposed 74,500 square meter (~800,000 square foot) building features a spiraling semi-circular atrium that overlooks an interior public courtyard. This space is meant to draw visitors and connect the building with the surrounding campus. The atrium also brings natural light down through the building and into court rooms.

The project is slated for completion within two years and, as with all of Zaha Hadid’s extreme designs, we definitely plan to follow the progress and check it out in its final form. Always interesting and thought provoking (both good and bad), there is something about the work of this architect that just keeps her in our sights. It will be interesting to see if her latest design for Madrid takes shape with sustainability in mind.



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Old April 5th, 2008, 12:37 AM   #84
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Some pix of the new projects recently finished.

Telefónica´s headquarters. Pictures by Blanco:


















These pictures were taken with few people there, but now the office is working so it´s full of people in a normal day.
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Old April 5th, 2008, 12:42 AM   #85
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More pix of the "Magic Box", an arena built in the middle of a huge park. His architect is Perrault. Underneath the park there used to be garbage. His architect is Bofill. Now it´s like this:











In one year the Master Series of Madrid will be played here. Maybe Nadal will win here...
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Freedom, Sancho, is one of the most precious gifts that Heaven gave to men; with it the treasures of the earth and the sea can´t be compared; for freedom, and for honour, one can and one should give his life(Cervantes in "Don Quixote")

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Old April 5th, 2008, 12:48 AM   #86
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A small office near Paseo de la Castellana, the biggest street of Madrid.







His architect is Rafael de la Hoz, the same of Telefónica HQ.

Another office:





It´s the building of the left, so it´s near Torres Kío and Cuatro Torres, at Paseo de la Castellana.



Caixafórum, by Herzog and De Meuron:











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Freedom, Sancho, is one of the most precious gifts that Heaven gave to men; with it the treasures of the earth and the sea can´t be compared; for freedom, and for honour, one can and one should give his life(Cervantes in "Don Quixote")

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Old April 5th, 2008, 12:51 AM   #87
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New prjects for the Ciudad de la Justicia (City of Justice), possibly the biggest complex of this kind in Europe.

Decanato:





Foster´s two buildings:







The parking space by Richard Rogers:





Fiscalía by Iñaki Carnicero:





Foreign Office Architects:







Zaha from a different perspective than the pictures above:



Juzgados de guardia:

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Freedom, Sancho, is one of the most precious gifts that Heaven gave to men; with it the treasures of the earth and the sea can´t be compared; for freedom, and for honour, one can and one should give his life(Cervantes in "Don Quixote")

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Old April 5th, 2008, 01:09 AM   #88
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Madrid´s new skyline with the new four towers at the bottom:





Both pix belong to ALberto Lunas. The building of colours was made by Jean Nouvel, and it´s a hotel. There are pictures of inside in this thread in previous pages. Each floor has been designed by a different architect (Toyo Ito, Zaha, Foster, Mariscal, NOuvel, etc.)


The towers at night:







I would like to thank the author of the last pictures, but now I can´t find his name. Sorry for that.

Well, I hope you like this stuff.
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Freedom, Sancho, is one of the most precious gifts that Heaven gave to men; with it the treasures of the earth and the sea can´t be compared; for freedom, and for honour, one can and one should give his life(Cervantes in "Don Quixote")

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Old April 5th, 2008, 02:13 PM   #89
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Thank you for sharing these beautiful shots with us!!

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Old April 7th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #90
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Beautiful projects. Madrid is improving a lot!

What about the river? and Prado-Recoletos?

Thanks for the pictures.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 04:14 PM   #91
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Thanks for your comments.

Here more pix of the beautiful Ciudad de la Justicia

The map:



Instituto de Medicina Legal de FOreing Office Architects:





Juzgado de lo Penal by Rafael de la Hoz:



Juzgado de Menores by Rafael de la Hoz:



Audiencia Provincial by Norman FOster:



ANother building by Pei:



Registro Civil by Angel Borrego



Hope you like them
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Freedom, Sancho, is one of the most precious gifts that Heaven gave to men; with it the treasures of the earth and the sea can´t be compared; for freedom, and for honour, one can and one should give his life(Cervantes in "Don Quixote")

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Old April 11th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #92
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¿Tiene Calatrava proyectos significativos en Madrid?
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Old April 11th, 2008, 09:51 PM   #93
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thanks madridhere, ciudad de la justicia will be one of the best project in this city!!
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Old April 11th, 2008, 09:53 PM   #94
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no, josean, solo esto (only this) http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=114250
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Old July 14th, 2008, 03:06 PM   #95
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There is a project started in 1993 which never starts because of many reasons, Operación Chamartín, in the north of the city, creating the new financial district of the city in the terrains of the Chamartin station, building a new one (huge, connecting to the rest of Europe)
now we can only see the beggining, these towers, but the rest... may be in 10 years...
The skyscrapers are about 200 meters, and a little cluster with 2 or 3 towers of possibly +300m




Pics from the spanish forum www.urbanity.es



























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Old July 14th, 2008, 11:37 PM   #96
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Is the Cuidad de la Justicia under construction ? Also, what is the timeline ?

Gracias.
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Yes, Dale, it has oficially started some months ago. I´ve not been there, but I imagine that for the moment there are only holes. Some of the buildings will be finished in 2/3 years time.
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Freedom, Sancho, is one of the most precious gifts that Heaven gave to men; with it the treasures of the earth and the sea can´t be compared; for freedom, and for honour, one can and one should give his life(Cervantes in "Don Quixote")

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Yes, Dale, it has oficially started some months ago. I´ve not been there, but I imagine that for the moment there are only holes. Some of the buildings will be finished in 2/3 years time.
I think I'll plan to vacation in Madrid around 2011, when most of these big projects are finished.

Of course, if you get the 2016 Olympics, the city will still be a big construction zone then.
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Is Madrid Rio (the artificial beach on top of M-30) still on course to begin construction soon ?
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Old July 16th, 2008, 10:55 PM   #100
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Madrid rio is not an artificial beach, it's a huge park on the M-30, and it's being built now,
but it will be finished at 2011 more or less, and almost every urban project in Madrid, it's the Madrid year, good date to go there
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