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Old October 25th, 2016, 08:25 PM   #841
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Anyway it's very sad because Budapest is very fun to ride with a bike...
When I was in Budapest in summer, I started to hate these BuBi bikes as soon as I saw them, so I rather rented normal bike here http://bikebase.hu/home near Nyguati
Anyway, Budapest has lot to do to catch up e.g. Vienna in cycling infrastructure, but it has a huge space to improve things so the potencial is definitely there.
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Old October 26th, 2016, 12:16 AM   #842
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A little gem, a map showing the daily ridership on public transport vehicles on the Pest side of the town from last year:

http://index.hu/belfold/budapest/201...bkk_metrostop/
red: metro lines
yellow: tram lines
blue: autobus lines
green: suburban railway lines
pink: trolleybus lines
orange (barely visible): coach lines
purple: railway lines

You can clearly see the importance of the East-West M2 and the North-South M3 metro lines and just how busy is the 4 and 6 twin tramline on the Grand Boulevard.
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Old November 25th, 2016, 06:02 PM   #843
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From Railway Gazette:

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MÁV gains Budapest suburban lines
25 Nov 2016



HUNGARY: National rail operator MÁV took over operation of the HÉV suburban lines from Budapest transport operator BKV on November 24. This follows an agreement in February between Mayor István Tarlós and Minister of National Development Miklós Seszták.

Newly created MÁV subsidiary BHÉV is now responsible operating all HÉV lines, with operational expenditure funded by central government and Budapest municipality. This replaces the previous arrangement where the municipality alone financed operations. MÁV has also taken over ownership of the infrastructure from BKV

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Old November 28th, 2016, 12:58 AM   #844
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What does it exactly mean for HÉV that it's been taken over by MÁV? Was that owned before by the city?
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Old January 7th, 2017, 12:40 AM   #845
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I see that it hasn't been mentioned here before: Budapest launched a metro replacement boat service on the river Danube between Kossuth tér and Batthány tér metro stations, since Metro Line M2 is not stopping at Kossuth tér until this Spring:

http://www.bkk.hu/en/2016/12/boat-li...been-launched/
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Old January 7th, 2017, 12:49 AM   #846
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What does it exactly mean for HÉV that it's been taken over by MÁV? Was that owned before by the city?
Yes, it was owned by the city before 1 Nov 2016. BHÉV / HÉV was owned by a private company prior to 1933, then the city of Budapest took over from 1933 to 1952, after that, it became part of MÁV until 1958, when ownership was transferred back to Budapest, until last year's another ownership change.

It's also important to note, that this change doesn't mean anything (yet) to passangers, HÉV is still part of the integrated transport system of Budapest, tickets and passes are also still valid.
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Old January 11th, 2017, 06:53 PM   #847
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Old January 12th, 2017, 05:10 PM   #848
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Old February 1st, 2017, 06:49 PM   #849
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From Rail Journal

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Budapest metro-suburban rail link moves forward
Wednesday, February 01, 2017



FŐMTERV, Hungary, has been awarded a contract to review a 2013 feasibility study into the construction of a connection between Budapest metro Line M2 and the HÉV suburban line to Gödöllő (H8) and Csömör (H9) at Örs vezér tere

The current project also involves preparing a new feasibility study for a new branch line to Rákoskeresztúr but the core of the eight-year framework contract is to prepare authorisation and building plans for the connection of M2 and H8/H9

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Old February 8th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #850
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Sorry if repeated. This is an old video, but I have not seen him here.

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Old April 6th, 2017, 12:53 AM   #851
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The Low-Floorer from Poland made a series of videos about the Budapestian public transport:

In general:


Metro:


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More videos coming soon!

I like his videos.
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Old April 8th, 2017, 12:41 PM   #852
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Budapest metro is the 2nd oldest metro of Europe. It currently has 4 lines— Line 1, 2, 3 & 4. The most interesting line is line 1, which is I think the 2nd least deep metro of the world (the 1st is Tianjin line 1 I heard). Entire line built sub-surface, directly below the street. In old days it was only 2 car trains, 1 was motor car, another was trailer car, much like a tram. It was classified as an underground tram line until metro line 3 was built, when this line was named M1. The primary reason to build this line was that in those times Budapest had a very classical look and the city government did not allow the construction of a tram route on Sugár street (now Andrássy street). It was the idea of Mór Balázs, the leader of the tramway authority, to build this tram line underground. All stations are still very much heritage type look, and originally as an underground tram route, all stations are very close to each other.

Line 2 has a standard metro line, whereas line 3 has half-automated operation (ATO). The driver has to close the doors and push the start buttons only. Line 4 is prepared for driverless operation, although initially drivers will remain in a temporary driver's cab. The track area is surveilled by a infrared system, as no platform screen doors have been installed. The network is mostly underground. All lines are connected with each others, which strengthens the entire network. It is a very good example of a strong metro network.

After reading many websites I’ve recently saw some matters, which arise some questions and curiosity. Here I’m writing.

1) Line 1 is planned to extend north central Budapest upto Rakosrendejo. It will be very good extension because it will create an interchange between suburban train and metro. Passengers coming from outside Budapest could then get down there, and could take the metro to reach at city centre. Has the construction started? Please write some details about this extension with its opening date.

2) Line 2 extension project is most interesting, because it is planned to be united with Gödöllő suburban line, which is an old project. So is it means the current train route H8 will be totally converted to metro? The train line is on surface and has overhead wire, but the metro has third rail. So will the entire proposed extension towards eastern suburb will be converted to 3rd rail traction? I think if it will happen, it will be the longest metro line. And what will be the future of train route H9 towards Csomor? Will it also be metro, or will be kept as suburban train (HEV)? Has the construction started? Please write some details about this extension with its opening date.

3) Line 3 is planned to extend northwards from Újpest-Központ to Káposztásmegyer, with 3-5 stations. A southern extension to the Ferihegy Airport has been proposed. Airport connection will be much better. Has the construction started? Please write some details about this extension with its opening date.

4) Line 4 supposed to be extended northeast from Keleti pályaudvar to Bosnyák tér, although a new tram line is now planned to be build along this corridor instead. Which will be constructed finally—metro or tram? Will it also be extended towards west up-to Viragpiac? Please write some details.
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After reading many websites I’ve recently saw some matters, which arise some questions and curiosity. Here I’m writing.

1) Line 1 is planned to extend north central Budapest upto Rakosrendejo. It will be very good extension because it will create an interchange between suburban train and metro. Passengers coming from outside Budapest could then get down there, and could take the metro to reach at city centre. Has the construction started? Please write some details about this extension with its opening date.

2) Line 2 extension project is most interesting, because it is planned to be united with Gödöllő suburban line, which is an old project. So is it means the current train route H8 will be totally converted to metro? The train line is on surface and has overhead wire, but the metro has third rail. So will the entire proposed extension towards eastern suburb will be converted to 3rd rail traction? I think if it will happen, it will be the longest metro line. And what will be the future of train route H9 towards Csomor? Will it also be metro, or will be kept as suburban train (HEV)? Has the construction started? Please write some details about this extension with its opening date.

3) Line 3 is planned to extend northwards from Újpest-Központ to Káposztásmegyer, with 3-5 stations. A southern extension to the Ferihegy Airport has been proposed. Airport connection will be much better. Has the construction started? Please write some details about this extension with its opening date.

4) Line 4 supposed to be extended northeast from Keleti pályaudvar to Bosnyák tér, although a new tram line is now planned to be build along this corridor instead. Which will be constructed finally—metro or tram? Will it also be extended towards west up-to Viragpiac? Please write some details.
Line 1 extension is not decided yet, though some plans have been made. Government approval and funds probably won't be available after quitting the Olympic bid (~as a "punishment")

Line 2 extension and HÉV project is on its way, official planning and fessibility study is to be completed till 2020. Although, HÉV lines are now out of Budapest's finance and there is a new company, MÁV-HÉV, which makes everything more complicated.

Line 3 extension to the north is about to happen in ~10 years, or maybe 5. After the reconstruction of the existing line. The southern extension to the airport will not happen, instead we will have a direct railway link.

Line 4 will not be extended in ~20 years. Mainly because of all the problems and corruption that came up with it. And the current mayor is clearly against ANY extension on that line. Although a new mayor (elections in 2019) can have a different opinion on that.

The main problem in Budapest is the complete lack of city funding to these projects. So the city depends highly on governmental funds and approval, and neither Orbán, nor any major officials share even a little "personal love" for Budapest.
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Very sad, almost same with my City Kolkata. Political leaders are more or less same around the world I see. In a sentence, the future of Budapest metro is not good.
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Why the lack of love for Budapest?
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It's interesting. In Poland it can be often seen that much is invested in the capital and other cities are often forgotten about. And in Hungary... there is practically no big cities except for Budapest. The next one after it has a population of 200k.

But I believe they may not like Budapest for reasons like city authorities from another political party than the central government, or something like that.
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Budapest metro is the 2nd oldest metro of Europe. It currently has 4 lines— .....
The most interesting line is line 1, which is I think the 2nd least deep metro of the world.
Entire line built sub-surface, directly below the street.
In old days it was only 2 car trains, 1 was motor car, another was trailer car, much like a tram.
It was classified as an underground tram line until metro line 3 was built, when this line was named M1.
.... All stations are still very much heritage type look, and originally as an underground tram route, all stations are very close to each other..
That's the metro Line 1 (foldalatti) you're speaking about :
https://www.google.fr/search?q=folda...iw=972&bih=510
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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:32 AM   #859
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But I believe they may not like Budapest for reasons like city authorities from another political party than the central government, or something like that.
That, to me, is very absurd. Why should all levels of government be the same when they take care of different things? I know people in Canada who may vote for one party in the provincial elections and another in the federal elections
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That, to me, is very absurd. Why should all levels of government be the same when they take care of different things? I know people in Canada who may vote for one party in the provincial elections and another in the federal elections
In Hungary it's totally different. The power of the state is much larger than in "western" countries. Especially when it comes to the allocation of funding (private funding is still not common or cannot compete with governmental funds). So, voting is taken very seriously and the winners of the elections often "punish" those cities and regions that clearly voted against them, by simply giving no development funds. And we have the "red" Budapest and the "orange" countryside. The "red" Budapest won 2 elections in a row (2002, 2006) for the Socialist-Liberal coalition (in a situation where the countryside clearly voted in favor of Fidesz even back then...) and most of current leaders come from outside Budapest themselves. And even by now, everything "anti-Fidesz" and "anti-Orbán" comes from Budapest, while they have a strong majority outside the capital. So, that's where the "hatred" origins. On the other hand, the Socialist were pro-Budapest and often "anti-countryside".
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