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Old May 22nd, 2009, 02:18 PM   #141
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Great photos.

Are there any pictures of the new trains that will be used on the M4?
They will be Alstom Metropolis trains,which will also run on line 2.


http://galeria.index.hu/belfold/2009..._szerelvenyek/

But there is a very serious problem with them,even calling them sh*t isnt harsh enough. The air conductors for the emergency brakes simply stay in your hand if you touch them...so say the mechanics at the metro depot.

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Thanks RawLee! I love this project, really. Metro 4 has never been on my path when I was in Budapest, apart from Kalvin Tér, and I never thought the stations could be this massive, caves are really enormous. once finished, going underground will look like walking in a sort of cathedral!
The "caves" are 30m deep,and the end of the stations are about 8m below the Danube. Guess what,for line 5,a station is planned to be under the Danube between an island and Pest...

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the only thing i don't understand is why nobody fitted the stations with sliding glass doors, in order to prevent suicides from jumping on the tracks.
The trains wont be automatic(at least,thats how we know)...besides,there are not that many suicides that we should spend so much money on doors.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 09:45 PM   #142
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They will be Alstom Metropolis trains,which will also run on line 2.

But there is a very serious problem with them,even calling them sh*t isnt harsh enough. The air conductors for the emergency brakes simply stay in your hand if you touch them...so say the mechanics at the metro depot.
Well, hope these are just beginners' problems... usually devices filled with electronics like planes, trains and cars are absolutely hopeless at the beginning. Anyway, these new convoys will spoil all the "Iron Curtain feeling" that the old M2 trains used to have! but that's progress...



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The "caves" are 30m deep,and the end of the stations are about 8m below the Danube. Guess what,for line 5,a station is planned to be under the Danube between an island and Pest...
which island? Margit sziget? anyway, impressive!! in Milan, if i'm not mistaken, there's a station under the Lambro river, but nothing to be compared to this. I can hardly image it, honestly. the Duna is really immense to my eyes.

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The trains wont be automatic(at least,thats how we know)...besides,there are not that many suicides that we should spend so much money on doors.
the jubilee line in London have them despite not having automatic trains. anyway good to hear you don't have these problems: that film, "Kontroll", made me believe you got them too!
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 10:01 PM   #143
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Well, hope these are just beginners' problems... usually devices filled with electronics like planes, trains and cars are absolutely hopeless at the beginning.
The Metropolis family isnt new.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom_Metropolis_Cars
"The trains are in service in 22 major cities around the world, totalizing more than 3000 cars"
Its bad quality,thats all. They are supposed to be running from last Septembre,but they havent even got the rail approval,because the 10000km test cant commece,because of this...error...and the first ones were delivered half-year behind schedule

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Anyway, these new convoys will spoil all the "Iron Curtain feeling" that the old M2 trains used to have! but that's progress...
Well,line 3 will stay for some time,and the HÉV will also heve that kind of feeling for some time.

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which island? Margit sziget? anyway, impressive!! in Milan, if i'm not mistaken, there's a station under the Lambro river, but nothing to be compared to this. I can hardly image it, honestly. the Duna is really immense to my eyes.
Yes. At the approximate future location,the river is 200m wide,thats about twice the lenght of a consist on line 2...

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the jubilee line in London have them despite not having automatic trains. anyway good to hear you don't have these problems: that film, "Kontroll", made me believe you got them too!
Dont get ne wrong,we do have,but its not that much. Some suicidal people can only think of themselves...get medicin and alcohol for christ's sake,but dont ruin the day of hundreds of thousand of people...
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 12:32 AM   #144
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Is any part of M4 above ground?
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 01:53 AM   #145
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The depot. Not even the second and third phases will be.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 05:31 PM   #146
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Update!

The works on the Buda embankment are nearing finish,though we dont know when will the section be inaugurated.

by Fron







We've found of evidence that line 3's reconstruction has started,though we dont know if its part of the EU project or not.








(from http://index.hu/belfold/budapest/200..._villamossint/)


The connection at Móricz Zsigmond square is ready,it was already tested,though there's no regular traffic on it. We dont know what lines will be merged with line 61,with which this track made connection.


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Old May 24th, 2009, 07:29 PM   #147
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Here's the sight we've been waiting for some time: the new vehicles on line M2


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Old June 18th, 2009, 01:25 PM   #148
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Update!

As of 18th of june,the southern TBM has been restarted under the Danube,where it had to take a week-long stop,because it hit a "surprise" clay region in a geological fault,and the clay was stuck in the cutters. In a few weeks,it will arrive at Fővám square station,after which the northern TBM will also depart from Gellért square.

(Kelenföld -> Tétényi -> Bocskai -> Móricz -> Gellért -> Fővám -> Kálvin -> Rákóczi -> Népszínház -> Keleti)
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Old June 18th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #149
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Lines 47 and 49 have been resumed when Szadabdság bridge was reconstructed,and here is an eye-candy shot with an old UV tram:


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Old June 29th, 2009, 01:43 PM   #150
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Update!

As of 29th of June, the southern TBM has breached Fővám station's wall! The northern TBM will soon start from Gellért square.

(Kelenföld -> Tétényi -> Bocskai -> Móricz -> Gellért -> Fővám -> Kálvin -> Rákóczi -> Népszínház -> Keleti)
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Old June 30th, 2009, 02:53 PM   #151
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Good work!
I had no idea that extent of work was so big. Very good pictures of TBMs and the construction!

Tell me please if U know, what happens when TBM encounters clay? What is the solution? How do U dig in clay?

Also can't wait to ride the M4!

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Old June 30th, 2009, 04:59 PM   #152
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It encountered clay under the Danube. It had to be stopped,and cleaned,under pressure. After that,a special liquid is pumped forward,to make the clay less "sticky".
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 02:27 PM   #153
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Tramline 24's partial reconstruction has started,between Nagyvárad square and Elnök street,and its terminal at Baross square.



Baross square





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BKV also got some money from the EU for GPS-based tracking system,which will be implemented in the upcoming years.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 02:37 PM   #154
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Venom6 has taken some pics of some stations,here are some of them,original posts here.

Baross square




Rákoczi square


Kálvin square




Fővám square


Gellért square




Móricz Zsigmond square
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Old July 28th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #155
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Construction of the line's depot started,the only part of the project that will be overground.

According to the project description,the depot will be large enough to accomodate enough vehicles for the initial line,plus its 2 extensions. The depot area will be made up of maintenance facilities,storage sheds and a 8 level office building.

It will be here:http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...27595&t=h&z=15


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U/C Tétényi road station

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Since The Bunny is gone, let me post these for ya'...

At last, after a well deserved holiday maybe, methan is back in action and updated the felulet.blogspot.com with fresh pics.

Tétényi road station. Waiting for the interior works to start. I'm so bloody anxious to see the final outcome slowly taking shape... I wonder when will they start?

Anyway, I give you methan's pics...



Soon the interior work will start...
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U/C Móricz Zsigmond square station

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Móricz Zsigmond square station... Also methan's pics and subs... Directly copied from the felulet.blogspot.com...


underpass below Fehérvári road





Same as at Tétényi road...
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U/C stations of Népszínház street and the Eastern Railway station

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New pics from felulet.blogspot.com:

Népszínház street station:




Keleti pu. station:


These pics show how badly the metro development is behind schedule... Keleti and Nepszinhaz street stations are already TBM ready, but the TBMs are still far-far away...
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Tram line 19-41 reconstruction finished...

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http://epitos.blog.hu/2009/08/01/vil...atthyany_teren

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Tram line 19-41 reconstruction finished...

Pictures:

http://epitos.blog.hu/2009/08/01/vil...atthyany_teren
More pics:
by Qtya:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1904
and by me:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1903

Fővám square new underground tram stop
ramp by Qtya:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1867
and the station itself:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2619

Tramline 24's reconstruction
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=1908


New pics on the next page.
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