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Old October 9th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #1
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The birthplace of the skyscraper new york city or chicago ?

i know that theres uslay a debate over what city was the true home of the skyscraper i know most people say chicago but i really dont see that as being true new york city was building taller buildings at the turn of the centrey whitch was loooong before chicago was manley because they had hight restrctions also new york city has been on the list of the worlds tallst buildings alot more heres a timeline

1873 Equitable Life Building New York U.S. 142 ft 43 m 8 Demolished
1889 Auditorium Building Chicago U.S. 269 ft 82 m 17 349 ft 106 m Standing
1890 New York World Building New York City U.S. 309 ft 94 m 20 349 ft 106 m Demolished
1894 Manhattan Life Insurance Building New York City U.S. 348 ft 106 m 18 Demolished
1899 Park Row Building New York City U.S. 391 ft 119 m 30 Standing
1901 Philadelphia City Hall Philadelphia U.S. 548 ft 167 m Standing
1908 Singer Building New York City U.S. 612 ft 187 m 47 Demolished
1909 Met Life Tower New York City U.S. 700 ft 213 m 50 Standing
1913 Woolworth Building New York City U.S. 792 ft 241 m 57 Standing
1930 40 Wall Street New York City U.S. 70 927 ft 283 m Standing
1930 Chrysler Building New York City U.S. 925 ft 282 m 77 1,046 ft 319 m Standing
1931 Empire State Building New York City U.S. 1,250 ft 381 m 102 1,472 ft 449 m Standing
1972 World Trade Center (North tower) New York City U.S. 1,368 ft 417 m 110 1,732 ft 528 m Demolished when the north tower added the new atenna in 1978 it became the tallst building in the world by the hight of the atenna untill the sears tower added new ones on here building in 2000
1974 Sears Tower Chicago U.S. 1,451 ft 442 m 108 1,736 ft 527 m Standing

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Old October 9th, 2007, 12:25 PM   #2
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New York.
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Old October 9th, 2007, 01:07 PM   #3
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But that doesn't matter.

New York came up with the first skyscraper.

Anyway, schools have always used the Fuller Building and Woolworth buildings as examples of early skyscrapers.

To me it doesn't really matter, I think both made advances in their own categories.
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Old October 9th, 2007, 01:12 PM   #4
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The Home Insurance Building is considered the first skyscraper because of its height during that time so Chicago gets the claim. NY on the other hand but buildings that are 7 stories or more.

Its hard though Chicago is considered the birthplace.
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Old October 9th, 2007, 07:38 PM   #5
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Chicago is the birthplace but New York City is where it really flourished. Chicago and New York both take the cake, however, for their dynamic and enormous stocks of skyscrapers from all eras and styles. I'd say we work hand in hand rather than compete. And if we do compete it's only an advantage to each of us. Can't get over the London Equity? I think it's called. It's on Michigan and Wacker I think.. Or maybe Michigan and Lake? Put together with the Mather Tower Right next to C&C and then Aon and 2 Pru towering above it. You've got like 3 eras, all stunning, blocks from one another. New Yorks Skyline has so many examples of this as well. Nowhere else in the world but New York and Chicago. This puts them at an advantage over everywhere else I think. I think it's also important to remember them as the ones that pioneered the skyscraper. For quite a long time it was JUST Chicago and New York, and even today they are still growing at an increasing rate. Hard to compete with if you ask me. Building under mountains and combining man made monoliths with nature is impressive but from an architectural perspective it doesn't get more interesting than those two fairly flat, gridded, citys. They're like a fine wine. They get better with age. They've both done a good job with the upkeep and maintanence. The new glass additions only heighten and enhance their appeal and the fact that they're both adding 3 or more new supertall additions also speaks for itself.

NY... Chitown.. mmhmm me likes.

To answer your question.. I've kind of seen it this way. Kind of a broad analogy and a little antagonistic.. Chicago is like the skyscrapers mother, New York is the father.. and everyone else are the children. Stupid I know, but basically we lead you followed.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:27 AM   #6
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:37 AM   #7
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^ And you're answer is....

I would say chicago, but NY prefected it
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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:03 AM   #8
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I agree with Nygirl. The skyscraper was born in Chicago but flourished in New York. I guess we share the cake...
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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:28 AM   #9
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Chicago of course... this is basic stuff that every skyscraper geek should know.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 01:33 AM   #10
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Chicago, Chicago, Chicago.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 05:01 AM   #11
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Chicago, although NY brought skyscrapers to new heights. However, just listing the tallest buildings does nothing. You really have to research the first skyscrapers in Chicago (and NY) to see the innovations in design and construction that made tall skyscrapers possible.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 06:23 AM   #12
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well in the begging of the 20th centrey new york was already building tall buildings while chicago wasent because they had hight restrctions on how high they could built whitch is why i consider new york city the home on the skyscraper its also home to the frist building to have 100 floors even though the empire state building has 102 and the The Home Insurance Building isent really a skyscraper its a high rose of pretty much just a building some people also consider the tribune tower the frist skyscraper when it was built in 1925 but it cant possbley be when the woolworth building was already long complated before then
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Old October 10th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #13
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In Italy, there is a city where there is big towers, the family that had the highest tower was the most powerful... it is the real ancestors to skyscrapers since it represents today the same things, but families changed to companies.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 03:03 PM   #14
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Chicago is the birthplace steel-framed tall buildings.

Buildings that scrapes the sky has been built in Europe, China, Middle East, Africa etc. long before New York or Chicago even existed.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 06:43 PM   #15
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Quote:
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I agree with Nygirl. The skyscraper was born in Chicago but flourished in New York. I guess we share the cake...
I agree, nobody in the US (or possibly the world) can touch NY and Chicago.

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Chicago is the birthplace steel-framed tall buildings.
exactly. Chicago built the first steel frame, which made taller structures possible.

The answer to this thread is Chicago.
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Old October 10th, 2007, 06:51 PM   #16
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It Can be Either Chicago Or New York But it's United States........The Land Of Dreams
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Old October 10th, 2007, 08:08 PM   #17
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It Can be Either Chicago Or New York But it's United States........The Land Of Dreams
Firemen make nightmare of skycrapers, you right. Well, everything supposed to be dreamy turn crashy with americans (take microwave, it destroy everything important in food except fat...) ahahah !
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Old October 13th, 2007, 06:44 PM   #18
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Chicago, duh.
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Old October 13th, 2007, 10:10 PM   #19
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It's obviously Chi, yet NY is the master and perfected the invention (eg. the elevator, ect.). This website wouldn't be possible without these two cities. The skyscraper is more American than an apple pie. Think of where some cities would be if they never left America.

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Old October 13th, 2007, 10:16 PM   #20
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when you say Skyscraper it was NY but at Highrises it was Chicago. in NY the first tower over 150m has been build but the First Highrise was the Home Insurance Building....in Chicago.
but the Birthplace is Chicago because Highrises came before Skyscrapers
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