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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:28 PM   #481
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Well, the ECB is planning to create another 2,000 jobs in Frankfurt in the near future. If this really happens, the ECB will likely need more space.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:35 PM   #482
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Well, the ECB is planning to create another 2,000 jobs in Frankfurt in the near future. If this really happens, the ECB will likely need more space.
yes, but there are several other projects which could be used for that.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:38 PM   #483
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I agree, but a supertall is always nice to have.

Is there still some life in this plan or is it just discussions like this that keep this thread alive?
This project is more or less on life support! They still reserve the area for the MT but right now other projects are more realistic. Currently, following projects are next in line in the immediate area:

Tower 1 and Tower 2 +
"Hochhaus am Polizeipräsidium"

I doubt we will see a supertall in the next 10+ years in Frankfurt...

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Old April 7th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #484
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Well guys, how does it look with the project? Does someone have any new info? Thanks.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 05:01 AM   #485
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Sorry I died laughing when I saw the title. Europe would be lucky to build a 2 storey in the next 10 yrs let alone this
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Old April 7th, 2013, 08:05 AM   #486
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Sorry I died laughing when I saw the title. Europe would be lucky to build a 2 storey in the next 10 yrs let alone this
... Spiteful much? You seem to forget that Europe is not one nation with regards to the EU, but a union of nations, so there will be countries in the EU that will be financially stronger then others, and Germany is definitely strong.
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Old April 7th, 2013, 09:03 AM   #487
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Sorry I died laughing when I saw the title. Europe would be lucky to build a 2 storey in the next 10 yrs let alone this
Europe has enough highrise projects. Even germany alone...
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Old April 7th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #488
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... Spiteful much? You seem to forget that Europe is not one nation with regards to the EU, but a union of nations, so there will be countries in the EU that will be financially stronger then others, and Germany is definitely strong.
Yup, so far all catastrophe scenarios about the collapse of the Euro have been avoided. It is virtually impossible to predict how we'll deal with future threats but I don't expect any catastrophe any time soon
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Old April 8th, 2013, 01:47 AM   #489
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I wasn't being spiteful I was just making a very honest remark Its sad to see euro suffering so much but let's be realistic the next decade will be rebuilding not building new sorry
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Old April 8th, 2013, 02:07 AM   #490
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Interesting project that I have never heard of! Franfurt would certainly deserve one 300m to its cluster.

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I wasn't being spiteful I was just making a very honest remark Its sad to see euro suffering so much but let's be realistic the next decade will be rebuilding not building new sorry
I think many people outside of Europe tend to forget that Europe or EU is far from one country. Just alone from the point that many of them don't belong to EMU or even EU. As it is refered as European crysis and then fed the horror images from Greece and the likes, it's easy to forget that many of the countries are seeing growth and example London is seeing more investements and projects than it has ever before.

This would honestly deserve much longer writing, but imo it's for a good in a longer run that many of the Northern European companies are now seeking more aggressively growth outside of Europe and especially the southern Europe is starting to do some of the structural they should have done years ago.

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Old April 8th, 2013, 02:24 AM   #491
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I wasn't being spiteful I was just making a very honest remark Its sad to see euro suffering so much but let's be realistic the next decade will be rebuilding not building new sorry
http://skyscrapercenter.com/create.p...=on&list_year=

currently 23 buildings over 200m are under construction in europe. to be fair a lot of them in moscow, but well after all it is the biggest city in the region. this is more than north america! in fact it is more than any other region on the planet besides Asia and the Middle East. We may not put out a supertall for every bigger city like china goes, because our cities are all a lot smaller, but there is definitely progress going on.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 03:35 AM   #492
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Old April 8th, 2013, 04:09 AM   #493
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currently 23 buildings over 200m are under construction in europe. to be fair a lot of them in moscow, but well after all it is the biggest city in the region. this is more than north america! in fact it is more than any other region on the planet besides Asia and the Middle East. We may not put out a supertall for every bigger city like china goes, because our cities are all a lot smaller, but there is definitely progress going on.
Your statement is blatantly false. I can't believe you have the temerity to actually offer up this gem: "in fact it is more than any other region on the planet besides Asia and the Middle East". You are using technical jargon to stay correct. Why does Europe stay together as one region while the Americas is split into 3? Those regions are purely arbitrary. Use continents and your statement would be a more conventional comparison than comparing a Europe of 800 million with Central America, Oceania and a North America of only 2 countries.

Let's compare North America to Europe. New York alone has 8 skyscrapers over 200m in countruction (and 4 are supertalls). Canada has 5 skyscrapers UC (all in Toronto), Mexico has 4. So that alone is 8+5+4=17. Panama has 3 also so that's 20 in North America.

Now let's look at Europe:
1 in Spain (Residential in Tempo, Benidorm) 200m exactly
1 in France (Tour Incity, Lyons) 200m exactly
1 in the UK (Leadenhall Building, London)
2 in Italy (Piemonte HQ, Turin & Il Dritto, Milan)
1 in Austria (DC Tower, Vienna)
2 in Poland (Sky Tower, Wroclaw & Warsaw Spire, Warsaw)
1 in Ukraine (Sky Towers, Kiev)
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9

+9 in Russia (but only 7 are in Europe since 1 is in Vladivostok and 1 in Yekaterinburg). So there's 16 in Europe + 2 more in Istanbul (albeit on the Asian side) for a grand total of 18 in Europe (technically 16).


In Conclusion, North America has 20 skyscrapers U/C
Europe has 16 skyscrapers U/C
The European Union has 8 skyscrapers U/C (or the same amount as just the city of New York). And yes, Europe is ahead of Australia but Australia is building 4 skyscrapers while Europe is building 16, yet Europe has 34x the population!! If Australia had the same population as Europe, based on its current rate of skyscraper construction, it'd be building 134 skyscrapers right now! So Europe is truly only beating Africa and South America and Antarctica. So it's 3/7 in Continents, 4/7 in per capita construction and falling fast behind Asia. Your statement is overly rosy and relying on word play to prove your point.
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Plus look at proposals. Europe after these 16 skyscrapers are complete has 5 credible proposals in the pipeline: 1 in Frankfurt and 4 in Paris Metro. 5 Total.

The US?
The US has 8 supertalls alone in the pipeline and slated to begin in the next year (or two years at most): 225 West 57th Street, Hudson Yards North Tower, One Manhattan West, Wilshire Grand Hotel (Los Angeles), Transbay Tower (San Francisco), 3 Hudson Boulevard (Jersey City), Verre Tower, 80 South Street. Add to that 16 more skyscrapers and the US has at least 24 in the immediate pipeline (with a few more not yet in the skyscraper center database). Canada has 6. Mexico has 2 and Panama has 1 supertall in the pineline. So North America has 33 to Europe's 5. Sure, some proposals of towers in both continents are missing from SSCenter but I doubt it's enough for the ratio to be altered much.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #496
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could someone lock this thread? This project is dead.
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Perhaps it's more alive than ever pretty soon.

The T365 area currently - looks like some activity, site clearance:
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hopefully what they are preparing is in fact this building.
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Old May 31st, 2014, 03:38 PM   #499
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hopefully what they are preparing is in fact this building.
That would be an extreme big surprise. I highly doubt this will be build very soon. Though the current boom of residental highrises could help this project alot. Let's hope the best
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I thought this was designed as an office tower?
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