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Old January 7th, 2008, 08:43 AM   #41
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^ Melbourne-Adelaide might be just the right distance for non-stop overnight hotel-train service such as exists between many pairs of European cities. Leave 7pm and arrive refreshed 7am the next day.

On such services a little luxury's not a bad thing; the bed isn't free and neither is the meal, and you can sell a little booze in the club car.




Nice, it reminds me of Rovos Rail, www.rovos.co.za













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Old January 7th, 2008, 09:09 AM   #42
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Old January 7th, 2008, 10:31 AM   #43
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The problem with luxury trains is the costs, they too expensive even for the ordinary middle class.

There's also Blue Train.





This one offers things like Boutique Suites












Luxury Suites









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Old January 8th, 2008, 04:59 AM   #44
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The rapid train between Quebec and Montréal is an old idea, but when the new mayor of Quebec City talked about it, the subject became more official. The government of Quebec is more likely to approve the project than the federal but maybe Harper would gain some points in the polls, it would be so nice to have a real train link between these cities..
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Old January 8th, 2008, 05:26 AM   #45
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why am I seeing so many photos of trains not in Canada in a thread about VIA rail?

Some people need to demonstrate better taste in posting irrelevant photos in threads.
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Old January 11th, 2008, 05:24 AM   #46
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I read today that Ontario's and Quebec governements were talking about a HSR between Windsor and Québec City. First they are going to order a study and then they're going to decide what to do.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 01:18 AM   #47
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Quebec-Windsor link a joint effort
Provinces, feds share costs for proposals

ELIZABETH THOMPSON, The Gazette


Plans for a high speed rail link along the Quebec City-Windsor corridor got back on track yesterday as Quebec, Ontario and the federal government announced they will share the cost of updating studies into the multibillion-dollar proposal.

"I see this as a project that will have economic, social and environmental benefits," Premier Jean Charest told reporters.

Charest and Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty said the three governments will split the


$2-million tab to dust off previous feasibility studies into the project and they expect that update to be finished within a year. However, neither premier was willing to venture a guess as to exactly how much it could cost to build a high-speed rail link or how long it could take.

The costly project also could be built in stages over several years, Charest suggested.

The two men also suggested the high-speed train could be built through a public-private partnership, in which governments and private companies both contribute to the costs.

The idea of a high speed rail link racing along the Quebec City-Windsor corridor is not new, nor is this the first time governments have announced with great pomp and circumstance that they are preparing or updating feasibility studies.

In the 1980s, Via Rail lobbied governments unsuccessfully to support a $3-billion project that would link Montreal, Ottawa and Toronto.

In 2003, former Liberal transport minister David Collenette approved a $700-million package of upgrades for Via Rail that would have included such projects as improving tracks to set the stage for the eventual introduction of high speed rail. However, Collenette said, cabinet was not ready to approve the $3-billion needed.

A couple of months later, then-Prime Minister Paul Martin froze all big-ticket spending, including the upgrades for Via Rail.

But while Charest and McGuinty were the first to acknowledge yesterday the project has been debated for years, they said its time has come. A high-speed rail link will not only reduce environment-damaging greenhouse-gas emissions, it will reduce traffic congestion, helping Canada become more productive, and create many jobs.

"The context has already evolved a lot since the 1980s and 1990s," Charest said.

As recently as May, the Conference Board of Canada published a report supporting the idea of a high-speed rail link, Charest said.

"Every once and a while, there is an idea whose time actually comes," McGuinty echoed.

While the federal government has balked in the past at the idea of high-speed rail, Transport Minister Lawrence Cannon embraced the idea yesterday.

"This government is committed to examining alternatives that offer comfortable, faster and more reliable passenger rail services that will also contribute to reducing greenhouse gases and other emissions," Cannon said.

"As well, there is a need to assess the opportunity for private sector participation in the development and implementation of such a concept so that taxpayers do not have to shoulder the entire financial burden of such an initiative."
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I'm not sure the whole Windsor-Québec route is economically viable, but take Toronto-Ottowa-Montréal as a core. That's 600km, which is doable in 2 hours using fairly standard technology from France, Germany, Spain, Japan etc.

If we assume a cost of $30m per km, that comes out at $18bn for the route. A fair chunk of money, sure, but it would capture essentially all of the plane traffic between those cities, plus some significant diversion from buses and cars. I'll be interested to see the results of that report.

Taking an incremental approach like this is more sensible than shooting for the whole 1200km route all in one go. Extensions can always be added later on.
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Old January 12th, 2008, 05:40 AM   #49
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Ya the day the government is going to do this
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Old February 5th, 2008, 09:16 AM   #50
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too much lobbying from Air Canada...those air routes would go down the pipes if this were to happen.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 05:06 AM   #51
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why am I seeing so many photos of trains not in Canada in a thread about VIA rail?

Some people need to demonstrate better taste in posting irrelevant photos in threads.
Agreed. This thread has been hijacked by people who don't seem to know what is appropriate. A mod should delete them.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 09:09 AM   #52
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too much lobbying from Air Canada...those air routes would go down the pipes if this were to happen.
Perhaps Air Canada could be allowed to invest in the project and codeshare trains as flights, so that you can get to YYZ, take the people mover to Malton, and buzz off to London/Kitchener/Ottawa in an hour. It works that way with TGVs at Charles de Gaulle airport.

Obviously AC shouldn't be allowed to operate the trains, since they will use the wrong tracks.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #53
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Perhaps Air Canada could be allowed to invest in the project and codeshare trains as flights, so that you can get to YYZ, take the people mover to Malton, and buzz off to London/Kitchener/Ottawa in an hour. It works that way with TGVs at Charles de Gaulle airport.

Obviously AC shouldn't be allowed to operate the trains, since they will use the wrong tracks.
I'm sure Air Canada will view investing in rail as a great business opportunity ... especially between Canada's largest cities.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 04:15 AM   #54
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CANADA | Railways

VIA’s Flagship Canadian is Moving to a New Schedule - New departure times restore coast-to-coast service and connections
Jul 16, 08 | 3:55 pm

Vancouver, BC – On December 2, 2008, VIA’s flagship western transcontinental Canadian will depart at a new time. A new evening departure time from both Vancouver and Toronto will enable passengers to make connections in Toronto to/from eastern Canada, as well as provide customers with more daylight viewing through the Rockies. The cross-country journey will move from a three-day, three night trip to a three-day, four-night schedule and will also include additional time at select en route stations where the opportunity for touring is possible.

“The redesign of the Canadian’s schedule was undertaken with our customers in mind,” said VIA’s Chief Customer Officer, Steve Del Bosco. “We want to provide the best total travel experience for our customers, from the service in our stations and on board, to the overall on-time operation of the train itself. This new schedule addresses not only the needs of our customers but tour operators as well.”

Highlights of the redesigned schedule are as follows:
- The new schedule comes into effect December 2, 2008.
- The operating departure days from Vancouver and Toronto remain unchanged.
- Thrice weekly departures from Toronto on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.
- Thrice weekly departures from Vancouver on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday.
- One additional night is added to the schedule in each direction thus changing the arrival days in Toronto and Vancouver.
- The departure times at both originating terminals move to an evening departure.
Train #1 – departs Toronto at 10:00pm and arrives in Vancouver 4 days later at 9:42am.
Train #2 – departs Vancouver at 10:30pm and arrives in Toronto 4 days later at 9:30am.

Westbound Service
Departs Toronto - 10:00pm
Arrive Winnipeg - 8:00am (+2 days)

Departs Winnipeg - 12:00pm
Arrives Saskatoon - 11:22pm

Departs Saskatoon - 11:47pm
Arrives Edmonton - 6:37am (+1 day)

Departs Edmonton - 7:37am
Arrives Jasper - 1:00pm

Departs Jasper - 2:30pm
Arrives Kamloops - 11:09pm

Departs Kamloops - 11:44pm
Arrives Vancouver - 9:42am (+1 day)

Eastbound Service
Departs Vancouver - 10:30pm
Arrives Kamloops - 6:00am (+1 day)

Departs Kamloops - 6:35am
Arrives Jasper - 4:00pm

Departs Jasper - 5:30pm
Arrives Edmonton - 11:00pm

Departs Edmonton - 11:45pm
Arrives Saskatoon - 8:45am (+1 day)

Departs Saskatoon - 9:10am
Arrives Winnipeg - 8:30pm

Departs Winnipeg - 11:30pm
Arrives Toronto - 9:30am (+2 days)

The new schedule will mean a change in train operations for some communities. For example, in the Prairies and British Columbia (Saskatoon, Kamloops) the new eastbound operation will make daylight train travel a viable option.

VIA’s Canadian was the only regularly-scheduled train in North America to be included in the Society of International Railway Travelers’ 2008 “World Top 25 Trains”. From Toronto to Vancouver, no matter the time of year, the images are unforgettable - mountain sheep grazing in the Rockies, elk loitering outside Jasper, and the skyline of Toronto looming on the horizon are just a few of the highlights.

And if you choose to add a touch of elegance to your journey with VIA's Silver & Blue Class, it begins with a bon voyage reception and continues with award-winning service that includes on-board fine dining, accommodations and attention par excellence. Passengers can enjoy the scenery from the large picture windows of their seats or from the 360° scenic dome.

For more information on VIA’s Canadian, train schedules, or to book a trip anywhere in the VIA system, customers can visit VIA’s secure Web site at www.viarail.ca Passengers also can book their tickets at self-ticketing kiosks in most Québec City-Windsor Corridor stations, by calling 1 888 VIA-RAIL (1 888 842-7245), TTY 1 800 268-9503 (hearing impaired), or through their travel agent.

As Canada’s national passenger rail service, VIA Rail Canada’s mandate is to provide efficient, environmentally sustainable and cost effective passenger transportation services, both in Canada’s busiest corridor and in remote and rural regions of the country. VIA serves more than 450 communities with a network of inter-city, transcontinental and regional trains. Increasingly travelers are turning to train travel as a hassle-free and cost-efficient alternative to congested roads and airports as well as a more environmentally responsible way to travel.

http://travelvideo.tv/news/more.php?id=15036_0_1_0_M
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Old July 21st, 2008, 04:23 AM   #55
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Shame, VIA Canada's making people change trains twice going from coast to coast here...
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Old August 12th, 2008, 04:14 AM   #56
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You know, VIA Rail's literature forget to include mentioning the country's third coast...they do go there, after all...

Plus this national passenger rail network operator and its licensor think nothing of committing piracy in the name of fares...no refund in the slightest had you bought any one of their Supersaver fare...you wanna change your bought booking at the rate sandwiched between their Supersaver and regular ones? you end up paying $6CDN more than their regular fare if your alteration covers both legs of your return ticket...

Uhm, has anybody noticed how many more cars really need damn tune-ups out there just these past few months, I sure have?
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Old October 31st, 2008, 10:38 PM   #57
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Browsing Via Rail's Winnipeg-Churchill timetable reveals a couple of stops where you cannot board or disembark unless you are going to or coming from north of The Pas, Manitoba. Both in Saskatchewan, the stops are Veregin and Mikado, at least five stops and 300Km away from The Pas, and 14Km from each other.

Why can't anybody boarding the northbound train at Vergin or Mikado get off either before or at The Pas, plus why would a passenger become disqualified from travelling to either one of these two stops if s/he boarded the train at The Pas or any one of the stops in between? (I guess I could speculate as to why not regarding the northbound train although definitely couldn't about the southbound one.)

Thanking you in advance.
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Old November 1st, 2008, 07:08 AM   #58
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Great service in Western Canada! You can always catch the bus to Calgary!

VIA Rail is a disgrace. I'm ashamed to admit that Canada even has passenger rail.
Yeah what's the deal? Why can't I go from here to Toronto for less than the cost of an airline ticket?
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Old November 4th, 2008, 12:02 AM   #59
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Yeah what's the deal? Why can't I go from here to Toronto for less than the cost of an airline ticket?
Well... because the trip is longer and it costs more to pay all the staff for 3 days, as opposed to 3 hours.

Even in Japan, with High-Speed-Rail and enough frequency to run trains every 10 minutes, getting a lot of use out of the trains, the prices are equivalent to Plane tickets.

Planes are simply more efficient for that kind of distance.
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Well... because the trip is longer and it costs more to pay all the staff for 3 days, as opposed to 3 hours.

Even in Japan, with High-Speed-Rail and enough frequency to run trains every 10 minutes, getting a lot of use out of the trains, the prices are equivalent to Plane tickets.

Planes are simply more efficient for that kind of distance.
Well last I saw you could not even take a train from Calgary to Toronto? I know many major cities in western Canada have little or NO train service.
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