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Old December 18th, 2007, 10:33 PM   #2181
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My mistake; the pictures posted yesterday on the BOA forum are 4 days old...they topped it out the next day. Sorry. So NYC is tied for 3rd with Dubai with 4 supertalls.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 12:13 AM   #2182
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I'm not sure how you count 5 finished supertalls for Dubai--I count four. Here is how I understand the rankings to stand, considering only topped out buildings:

Hong Kong and Chicago are tied for first with 5 each
Hong Kong: 2ifc, central plaza, bank of china tower, the center, nina tower
Chicago: sears tower, aon center, john hancock center, at&t center, 2 prudential tower
Dubai next with 4: Emirates office tower, Rose Rotana, Burj Al Arab, Emirates Tower hotel
New York has 3: Empire State Building, Chrysler building, New York Times building

I'm going by the list on Emporis. They also list the Bank of America tower in New York as being topped out, but anyone can go to the thread and see that the spire isn't finished on that one.

Now, very soon, the Almas Tower will be topped out tying Dubai with Hong Kong and Chicago. Very shortly after, the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel should top out, putting Dubai in first with 6. Hong Kong and Chicago both have another one getting well along (Trump Tower in Chicago, ICC in Hong Kong), but by the time those are topped out the Index should be getting there as well. With all the other supertalls that are well under construction, Dubai will pull away far far from the rest of the competition after that.


Edit: I forgot about One Island East Center in Hong Kong which is almost topped out, so Hong Kong will, like Dubai, soon have 6. So they'll be tied for a bit longer before Dubai pulls away.
i counted burj d as the 5th. yes i know its uc.
bottom line is that dubai has3 times the supertalls as any other city. amazing
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Old December 19th, 2007, 01:40 AM   #2183
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Amazing night shots on prev page!!
Yes!! They have changed the colour of the Lake water!! Now it looks a million times better.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #2184
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They really need to hurry up with the cladding on the lower mech levels. That in itself, I believe, will be the single biggest noticeable change in the progress, and make the building look that much further along in the construction process...




this is an amazing picture... i wanto to be there and watch this nice city
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Old December 19th, 2007, 02:35 AM   #2185
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The progress is so frustratingly slow. It's getting boring. I forgot the last time we saw a complete floor rise up.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 02:48 AM   #2186
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The progress is so frustratingly slow. It's getting boring. I forgot the last time we saw a complete floor rise up.
From the last photos posted here it looks as if the outer ring is almost done on the next floor.

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Old December 19th, 2007, 03:03 AM   #2187
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Yes, and this first floor of steel was construct in 5 or 6 days... that isn't slow for me...
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Old December 19th, 2007, 03:09 AM   #2188
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not just supertalls but interesting list here:
http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/sk/st/sr/
Place City Population Area Buildings² Points³
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14. Beijing 7,746,519 16,808 km² 868 6,065
15. Dubai 1,241,000 3,885 km² 295 5,883

Dubai will be overtaking Beijing soon.
I'd recommend another good city list:
The World's Best Skylines by Egbert Gramsbergen. Here only the height above 90 meters counts of each building, and this is an advantage for cities with many tall skyscrapers instead of those with thousands of nameless 20-floor-highrises.

So it's no surprise to find Bejing only on rank 19 there, but Dubai already on no. 3 , only topped by Hongkong and New York City.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 03:16 AM   #2189
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OFFTOPIC.....IMO emporis should change the rules for the city ranking....
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Old December 19th, 2007, 03:41 AM   #2190
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I'd recommend another good city list:
The World's Best Skylines by Egbert Gramsbergen. Here only the height above 90 meters counts of each building, and this is an advantage for cities with many tall skyscrapers instead of those with thousands of nameless 20-floor-highrises.

So it's no surprise to find Bejing only on rank 19 there, but Dubai already on no. 3 , only topped by Hongkong and New York City.
Wow! By this ranking, Hong Kong is really unchallenged! I didn't realize how far ahead it was compared to New York in terms of number of tall buildings.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 04:43 AM   #2191
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when are you all going to get over this huge egotistical erection in the world's fakest city?
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Old December 19th, 2007, 04:49 AM   #2192
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Dubai got pwn3d!!!

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Old December 19th, 2007, 04:58 AM   #2193
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What a great contribution to the thread shoreditchpete! Your post should be awarded for "the most unoriginal, been said 300 times already, but still finds a way to talk about nothing post of the year". Moving on now, I don't think I've seen the new photos of the lake. The last one I saw it was gross, maybe I missed a few pics here, but I'm too lazy to go back and find them right now
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Old December 19th, 2007, 05:12 AM   #2194
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What a great contribution to the thread shoreditchpete! Your post should be awarded for "the most unoriginal, been said 300 times already, but still finds a way to talk about nothing post of the year". Moving on now, I don't think I've seen the new photos of the lake. The last one I saw it was gross, maybe I missed a few pics here, but I'm too lazy to go back and find them right now
the 'lake' eh?
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Old December 19th, 2007, 05:16 AM   #2195
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http://homepages.ipact.nl/~egram/skylines.html

what is that dude smoking, 3051 buildings over 90 metres in Hong Kong, no way, more like less than 500
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Old December 19th, 2007, 05:27 AM   #2196
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what is that dude smoking, 3051 buildings over 90 metres in Hong Kong, no way, more like less than 500
Actually if you ever looked at a panorama of the whole Hong Hong skyline including the Hong Kong island and Kowloon, there is obviously at least 3000 skyscrapers above 90m. Most people just look at the skyline that show the prominent skyscrapers and never the whole skyline itself.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 05:44 AM   #2197
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Actually if you ever looked at a panorama of the whole Hong Hong skyline including the Hong Kong island and Kowloon, there is obviously at least 3000 skyscrapers above 90m. Most people just look at the skyline that show the prominent skyscrapers and never the whole skyline itself.
Emporis are saying ~700 buildings 90 metres or greater
SSP are saying ~500 buildings 90 metres or greater
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Old December 19th, 2007, 06:24 AM   #2198
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Yes, and this first floor of steel was construct in 5 or 6 days... that isn't slow for me...
It's not even close to being done yet.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 11:37 AM   #2199
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Yes, and this first floor of steel was construct in 5 or 6 days... that isn't slow for me...
That's slow for steel work - the Empire State Building is all steel - and that rose (at it's fastest) at a floor a day! 5-6 days is slow. Hopefully it'll get faster - but as they're so far behind with the glazing, and therefore probably the interior fitting - and the concrete WAS on schedule - they probably don't need to go full-speed on the steel.

ps. I imagine sooner or later Emaar will stop farting around and tell us the final height. Of course most of us on here have known for over a year it's going to be 808-818m anyway. I remember finding that pdf that had the first set of detailed plans - and that had 808m as the new final height. Some new plans say 818m - but it's not much difference either way.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 12:05 PM   #2200
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^actually 819m.(835m above slab). we cant ignore the large air craft beacon on tip.
the ESB rose a floor aday because the highest the steel had to be hoisted was 320m. Burj Dubais steel has to be hoisted up double that height to above 600m-700m.that requires more time.
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