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Old November 29th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #22381
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I think Fury was asking what this "building" was for, did anyone figure that out? I didn't see an answer scrolling through the thread.
Hi FM.

I answered you in my last post - I did answer a few people though and can be fairly long winded.

The structure you are referring to is a fountain. I think it may not shoot up too high - rather flows over the structure like a waterfall but I don't know that for sure. Should be cool to see it up and running.

The building I was referring to is to the right in that shot. It is a couple or even 3 levels high (if it even has levels) and is 100 feet long. It is a revision to the original site plan but almost everything we see is also.

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Old November 29th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #22382
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Old November 29th, 2009, 07:33 PM   #22383
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I said before that the 12000 workers impossible but after the site visit I would say the 14000 right with all sub-contractors ,Al Futtaim Carillion (lake and landscaping) etc.. workers.

I checked and saw 5 areas for the busses, maybe they have more, behind the Dubai Mall, behind The Lofts , close to the Boulevard Plaza, next to the Palm District Building,close to the Emaar site offices.

Also plenty of minibus ,pick-up,cars etc.. they can park inside the Burj which is not visible from outside but when I was there the parking area was busy.

So I believe the 14108 workers now
Nobody have his car or bus in the Burj parking since Dubai mall opened one year ago. It is now in Dubai Mall P3 at levels 1 and 2 (formerly known as LG and LGm).
The workers bus doesn't stay near the site during the day.
Al Futtaim is not included in Burj Dubai. The landscaping is made by Proscape.

The building near the external stair is a kitchen.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 07:57 PM   #22384
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Nobody have his car or bus in the Burj parking since Dubai mall opened one year ago. It is now in Dubai Mall P3 at levels 1 and 2 (formerly known as LG and LGm).
The workers bus doesn't stay near the site during the day.
Al Futtaim is not included in Burj Dubai. The landscaping is made by Proscape.

The building near the external stair is a kitchen.
Many thanks for the info ,yes I meant the mall parking levels not the Burj own parking , so the 14000 workers just inside the Burj or included the landscaping workers as well ?
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Old November 29th, 2009, 08:11 PM   #22385
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Nobody have his car or bus in the Burj parking since Dubai mall opened one year ago. It is now in Dubai Mall P3 at levels 1 and 2 (formerly known as LG and LGm).
The workers bus doesn't stay near the site during the day.
Al Futtaim is not included in Burj Dubai. The landscaping is made by Proscape.

The building near the external stair is a kitchen.
Hi isicman.
Thanks for the answer to a question I,ve had for some time now. A kitchen - whoa it is a very large kitchen. I am thinking you mean a restaurant ? Is it multi-level ?

Please - if you know what all the small buildings are on the podiums could you fill us in ? Any other info would be greatly appreciated as well. Inquiring minds want to know.

Hi Imre.
Great update again - another plane ride. Keep up the good work - never enough pics.
Also thanks for the reply on the number of workers. 14,000 workers - 89,000,000 manhours - what a gigantic project.

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Old November 29th, 2009, 08:20 PM   #22386
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Hi FM.

I answered you in my last post - I did answer a few people though and can be fairly long winded.

The structure you are referring to is a fountain. I think it may not shoot up too high - rather flows over the structure like a waterfall but I don't know that for sure. Should be cool to see it up and running.

The building I was referring to is to the right in that shot. It is a couple or even 3 levels high (if it even has levels) and is 100 feet long. It is a revision to the original site plan but almost everything we see is also.

Cool, thanks Fury.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #22387
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:55 PM   #22388
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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:56 AM   #22389
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Royal Family, parade, displays etc on December 1st.

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oh wow! u just reminded me that its almost December already! lol very wierd weather for where im living right now... its 1 degree (celcius), when it is usually like -10 to -20 below right now... wow its warm..
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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:58 AM   #22390
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oh wow! u just reminded me that its almost December already! lol very wierd weather for where im living right now... its 1 degree (celcius), when it is usually like -10 to -20 below right now... wow its warm..
well, atleast we're finally getting some snow
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Old November 30th, 2009, 01:17 AM   #22391
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oh wow! u just reminded me that its almost December already! lol very wierd weather for where im living right now... its 1 degree (celcius), when it is usually like -10 to -20 below right now... wow its warm..
hehehe it is a lovely balmy 32 deg Celcius here is the tropics of Far north Queensland
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Old November 30th, 2009, 02:06 AM   #22392
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hehehe it is a lovely balmy 32 deg Celcius here is the tropics of Far north Queensland
in Southern Australia, we had a heatwave over 40 deg Celcius 2 weeks ago that went for over a week, this weekend we had less than 20C with heavy rain and strong winds. very weird weather.

and the Burj looks great now that it's nearing completion
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Old November 30th, 2009, 03:17 AM   #22393
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Moscow has 42 degrees F. Weird. finally global warming is here.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 03:26 AM   #22394
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The structure you are referring to is a fountain. I think it may not shoot up too high - rather flows over the structure like a waterfall but I don't know that for sure. Should be cool to see it up and running.

The building I was referring to is to the right in that shot. It is a couple or even 3 levels high (if it even has levels) and is 100 feet long.
Do anybody think all these stuff is going to completed by january 4?
I would bet a peso it won't be , even with 14000 workers.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 03:29 AM   #22395
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Old November 30th, 2009, 04:11 AM   #22396
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Do anybody think all these stuff is going to completed by january 4?
I would bet a peso it won't be , even with 14000 workers.
Hi Moscow.

Short answer - yup.
Longer answer - my guess as to what will be completed by the soft opening:
- The landscaping (which I gather is what you are referring to) including the fountain in front of the office entrance, any other water features, and the tennis courts.
- The cladding.
- The pool annex.
- Some or all of the office annex.
- The lobbies for the hotel, the residences, offices, and the observation elevators.
- The Armani hotel.
- The Armani hotel residences.
- Some of the lower or even all of the residences.
- Some of the lower luxury residences.
- Some of the office space.
- The observation level.
- Some if not all of the assorted restaurants, clubs, and spa at various levels.
- Some of the upper steel and spire areas cleaned up. (scaffolding, etc. removed)
- The exterior lighting and festival lighting for the entire structure.
- Most or all of the elevators and escalators.

Also a very large party and opening ceremony including fireworks and an elaborate festival light show with the big fountains being involved somehow.
Should be some great updates from the guys in Dubai in the days following ...

Then - what I'm looking forward to - the official release of the height and/or the CTBUH measurement of same if nec. (I have a feeling it will be nec. and I hope they do)

After that we will have to rely on watching the internal lights in the night shots to try to determin how things are progressing towards completion of the whole of the works. Update shots from people staying or working inside will help too.

Lastly another visit by OTR where he zigs and zags past security to get us shots from high up in the structure will help too. - maybe not - remember what happened last time ...

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Old November 30th, 2009, 05:07 AM   #22397
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* Last Updated: November 29. 2009 8:02PM UAE / November 29. 2009 4:02PM GMT

DUBAI // When it officially opens on January 4, the Burj Dubai, the world’s tallest building, will stand as a towering symbol of how far the UAE has come and how much it has achieved in the 38 years since unification.

The Burj, which grew out of the imagination and ambition of the largely Emirati board of directors of Emaar, the developer, is, as the company says, “a shining accomplishment … an icon of the new Middle East: prosperous, dynamic and successful”.

But it also symbolises how much opportunity exists for the development of home-grown construction engineering expertise.

Some UAE firms have played a significant part in the project, among them the Arabian Aluminium Company, a member of Al Ghurair Construction Industries. On October 1, its crews, working in association with Far East Aluminium, which sent 300 specialists from China for the job, helped to install the last of the building’s 24,000 aluminium and glass facade panels.

Arabtec Construction, a UAE building company, was another part of the construction consortium led by Samsung Engineering.

But in addition to the tens of thousands of foreign labourers, mainly from the subcontinent, who have turned the design into reality, an estimated 5,000 engineers and consultants, many from western nations, have driven the project.

The 818-metre Burj was designed by the American architect Adrian Smith and the Chicago-based firm Skidmore, Owings & Merrill. It was built by South Korea’s Samsung Corporation, a veteran of other gigantic buildings such as the Taipei 101 in Taiwan and the Petronas Towers in Malaysia. The entire project was managed by the US-based Turner Construction International.

The names and numbers highlight the wealth of potential job opportunities for Emiratis in the fields of building design, construction and management, particularly once the property sector regains momentum and plans for shelved projects are dusted off.

Abdullah al Ghufili, Arabtec’s government liaison officer, said that even though few Emiratis worked on the Burj directly, the project stands as an inspiration to a generation of up-and-coming national engineers, some of whom were given the opportunity for hands-on experience on the vast scheme.

Last year, a group of foreign and Emirati engineering students from the American University in Dubai were brought to the site to watch, experience and learn from the building of what will become a national symbol.

It was, Mr al Ghufili said, an experience he hopes will provide the inspiration and opportunity to “unlock the talent of future generations”.

“Letting them take part in this, for sure, allowed them to be a part of something great,” he said. “It was important that they had their hands on a momentous project like this.”

Omran al Owais, an Emirati who runs the Dubai architectural firm Centimetercube, said prominent projects such as the Burj Dubai, which are beyond the current capacity of local firms, may help encourage the younger generation to go into architecture.

“It’s something they can see every day from their house; even if you live in Ajman you can see it,” said Mr al Owais. “But it can be a little intimidating; it’s way beyond our capabilities, and done by these huge international companies. Our grandfathers and fathers were not architects. We are pushing to learn and develop but there’s still some way to go.”

Mr al Owais said he hoped that more Emirati architects a group which he said numbers only between 10 and 20 would collaborate on large projects so they can gain experience.

“I would love to see some kind of programme where the local Emirati architects could participate with the international companies when they work on projects,” he said. “After five or 10 years they will have gained a lot of experience, and their children will learn from it, and their grandchildren will learn from it. It would give a very good momentum to the industry.”

According to Mr al Owais, who studied architecture at the American University of Sharjah, the younger generation can be reluctant to work in the field because it is often misconceived as “construction work”.

He said he would like to see more Emiratis take up the profession, not so they can work on landmark projects, but so they can help develop the urban fabric of their cities.

“For me, if that sort of money is available, I would rather invest it in a different urban plan, making the city more localised and denser, rather than building taller,” he said. “It would help us build better communities.”

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Old November 30th, 2009, 06:46 AM   #22398
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Hi Moscow.

Short answer - yup.
Longer answer - my guess as to what will be completed by the soft opening:
- The landscaping (which I gather is what you are referring to) including the fountain in front of the office entrance, any other water features, and the tennis courts.
- The cladding.
- The pool annex.
- Some or all of the office annex.
- The lobbies for the hotel, the residences, offices, and the observation elevators.
- The Armani hotel.
- The Armani hotel residences.
- Some of the lower or even all of the residences.
- Some of the lower luxury residences.
- Some of the office space.
- The observation level.
- Some if not all of the assorted restaurants, clubs, and spa at various levels.
- Some of the upper steel and spire areas cleaned up. (scaffolding, etc. removed)
- The exterior lighting and festival lighting for the entire structure.
- Most or all of the elevators and escalators.

Also a very large party and opening ceremony including fireworks and an elaborate festival light show with the big fountains being involved somehow.
Should be some great updates from the guys in Dubai in the days following ...

Then - what I'm looking forward to - the official release of the height and/or the CTBUH measurement of same if nec. (I have a feeling it will be nec. and I hope they do)

After that we will have to rely on watching the internal lights in the night shots to try to determin how things are progressing towards completion of the whole of the works. Update shots from people staying or working inside will help too.

Lastly another visit by OTR where he zigs and zags past security to get us shots from high up in the structure will help too. - maybe not - remember what happened last time ...

Hi Fury, no jail this time around although it will soon be time to get inside legally.

I have already made bookings for xmas day and New Years day dinner under the BD, and only need the contact number to get a room at the Armani hotel first opening opportunity.

In light of all the doom and gloom news recently, I am sure the BD will do something for national day, but no matter what the world media will have their critical eye on whatever spend.

Should be a very interesting month coming up.
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Old November 30th, 2009, 06:55 AM   #22400
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