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Old March 22nd, 2012, 10:41 PM   #30781
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They should spend some of their billions to create a huge forest, plant millions of trees. If you plant enough, the area will become less dry and nature will sustain itself. But you really need a lot of trees. Would be an awesome project for Dubai though. Almost like terraforming. Dubai could put itself on map again which such an awesome project.
For some reason I don't think this would work at all haha. Air generally flows from West to East, so all the moisture let out by those trees wouldn't stay there, but rather move further East. You can't just build a forest somewhere and expect it to sustain itself. Rain doesn't fall on the same city where the moisture that makes it comes from. So really, what you said wouldn't work, unless you somehow created a ring of forest around the world. And then it still probably wouldn't work.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 10:42 PM   #30782
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LOL, did we just started showing pictures of Golf Courses to "prove" which one is greener?
No, notice I never said Las Vegas was greener, please read. I said its easier for Las Vegas to grow things, as it is less hot in Las Vegas. I realize Dubai has a golf course as well, I was just responding to the other guy's implied sarcasm.

In all honesty, Dubai and las Vegas should just stick to using plants native to the area. It's a crime against humanity to spend the energy necessary to water those plants just so we can have something to look at.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 10:47 PM   #30783
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Nope, Dubai uses treated grey water for landscaping, not desalinated one.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 10:54 PM   #30784
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Nope, Dubai uses treated grey water for landscaping, not desalinated one.
Not for private areas, such as houses. And I'm sure there are plenty of developments that use non-greywater.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 01:40 AM   #30785
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AND Lake Mead is nearby, so Las Vegas doesn't destroy the Earth using tons of energy to desalinate it's water.
Yeah forgot, Lake Mead, one of mother nature's true wonders...
And how about the water issues in Los Angeles? For example what happened to Owens Lake?

Strange that whenever this useless Dubai bashing starts it's some US American trying to "educate". A country with one of the world's highest water and fuel consumptions. Must be quite sad and rather embarassing to see for those fellow countrymen who don't have this weird attitude of trying to tell others what to do

Just ignore the BS, guys...
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 01:49 AM   #30786
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Yeah forgot,Lake Mead, one of nature's true wonders... And how about water issues in Los Angeles? How about what happened to Owens Lake?

Strange that whenever this useless bashing starts it's some American trying to educate. Must be quite sad to see for those fellow countrymen who don't have this weird attitude

Just ignore the BS, guys...
You are a complete imbecile. The point is Dubai is an environmental catastrophe, just the sight of it makes me cringe. The skyscrapers are perfect examples of poor land management, as overly rich oil tycoons decide to put out billions of tons of CO2 constructing buildings that have no reason to be as tall as they are, seeing as land in Dubai is quite abundant. But it's alright, destroying the environment, and the coral that lie off the coast of Dubai is all ok, especially in the pursuit of some overly extravagant Las Vegas. And Los Angeles is completely irrelevant, it still runs off of 100% fresh water. As does almost every American city. A citizen of Dubai uses twice as much water as the average American.

Anyway, to get back on topic, this is a beautiful building, seeing as it was designed by an American firm.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 01:52 AM   #30787
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Catastrophe? To be honest, the fact that there's a vibrant developing city in such a rude place for living like a desert is an achievement.

The world wont end for some dying greenery where it was supposed to be a desert.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 01:58 AM   #30788
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You are a complete imbecile....
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...this is a beautiful building, seeing as it was designed by an American firm.
And if it was designed by a local firm it'd be ugly, right?
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:00 AM   #30789
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Catastrophe? To be honest, the fact that there's a vibrant developing city in such a rude place for living like a desert is an achievement.

The world wont end for some dying greenery where it was supposed to be a desert.
http://www.landscapeonline.com/research/article/5718

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/bu...pagewanted=all

Dubai has to desalinate ALL its water at some point. The issue isn't one of killing plants, even though they did kill MASSIVE amount of coral to build their islands. The point is the energy consumption necessary to sustain life in a place where it is regularly 120 degree fahrenheit, with humidity off the charts. When you have to desalinate your water, when you have to constantly live by the mercy of the air conditioner in the summer, when you create an indoor ski resort in a DESERT, you are creating astronomical amounts of CO2 emission never before seen. Not to mention that building skyscrapers puts out its own emissions. And heck, to add to all of it, desalinating water raises salinity levels in the nearby water, making the area practically unlivable to marine life.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:03 AM   #30790
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Why don't you just shut up and visit one of the all american forums? There you can hail your brothers
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:05 AM   #30791
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You are a complete imbecile. The point is Dubai is an environmental catastrophe, just the sight of it makes me cringe. The skyscrapers are perfect examples of poor land management, as overly rich oil tycoons decide to put out billions of tons of CO2 constructing buildings that have no reason to be as tall as they are, seeing as land in Dubai is quite abundant. But it's alright, destroying the environment, and the coral that lie off the coast of Dubai is all ok, especially in the pursuit of some overly extravagant Las Vegas. And Los Angeles is completely irrelevant, it still runs off of 100% fresh water. As does almost every American city. A citizen of Dubai uses twice as much water as the average American.


Wow!! You really have no clue about Dubai do you?
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:55 AM   #30792
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Why don't you just shut up and visit one of the all american forums? There you can hail your brothers
Every country has it's issues, the US has plenty of issues. But at least we don't waste our money creating some false image of ourselves. I won't "hail my brothers" because there are too many issues to address at the moment for celebration. Maybe one day you'll realize that about dubai, just at many before you have.

The mirage in the desert won't last for long, if the poor economy didn't prove that to you already. The office vacancy rates in Dubai are higher than in Detroit. Dubai is unsustainable, but I will end my argument there. I'm fine with Abu Dhabi and other real cities.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 04:10 AM   #30793
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I'll either be taking pics of the Beast of Dubai or snow in Antarctica next August. Since it looks like this thread has achieved immortality, I'll try to get something worth posting.

I see they haven't kicked Fury out yet.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 08:11 AM   #30794
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Every country has it's issues, the US has plenty of issues. But at least we don't waste our money creating some false image of ourselves. I won't "hail my brothers" because there are too many issues to address at the moment for celebration. Maybe one day you'll realize that about dubai, just at many before you have.

The mirage in the desert won't last for long, if the poor economy didn't prove that to you already. The office vacancy rates in Dubai are higher than in Detroit. Dubai is unsustainable, but I will end my argument there. I'm fine with Abu Dhabi and other real cities.
Dear royal_rose1,

please leave this forum, nobody cares about your enviromental concerns and other problems you have with Dubai, just shut the hell up. As far as i know, this thread is dedicated to Burj Khalifa - a skyscraper, not some greenpeace sh*t or please save mother earth or give Dubai back to nature... please, if you dont mind, just post things and facts RELATED TO THE TOPIC - AND THAT IS BURJ KHALIFA, otherwise make your own thread, something like "Dubai is just deserted city, god bless stupid America, please support my opinion"... etc.

THANK TOU

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Old March 23rd, 2012, 09:01 AM   #30795
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You are under the false impression that his Majesty Rose The 1st, or scores of others before him playing the exact same broken record, really give a flying [email protected] about the enviroment
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:41 PM   #30796
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Dubai from Space on 22/2/12



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A bustling metropolis in the heart of the United Arab Emirates lights up the night in this photo taken by an astronaut aboard the International Space Station.

The city of Dubai is the largest metropolitan area in the emirate of the same name. The region's uniquely shaped island developments, framed by a bright lattice of orange lights, are clearly visible in this nighttime image taken from space on Feb. 22.

Dubai is a popular photographic target for astronauts aboard the International Space Station because of the artificial archipelagos located just offshore in the Persian Gulf, NASA officials said in a statement. These attention-grabbing features were intentionally built so that the full design is only visible from a vantage point looking straight down, such as an airplane or an orbiting outpost in space.

The cluster of lights at the bottom right is the Palm Jumeira complex, which is still under development. The palm tree-shaped artificial archipelago consists of a crescent breakwater surrounding a trunk and 16 fronds.

Flying 240 miles (386 kilometers) above the Earth's surface, the astronauts aboard the space station can fully appreciate Dubai's dazzling city lights, and the area's vivid pattern of urban design.

Several striking patterns can be made out in the detailed image, such as how the highways and major streets are lined with sharp yellow-orange lights, while the commercial and residential areas appear more speckled with blue, white and orange lights.

The large, brightly lit spots are some of Dubai's big hotels and shopping malls, including the world's tallest building, the Burj Khalifa Tower, which looms at an impressive 2,717 feet (828 meters).

The stunning city lights contrast sharply with the dark Persian Gulfto the northwest and the more undeveloped and unlit areas to the southeast. The sporadic blurry patches of gray are clouds.

The photo was taken with a long focal-length lens and a digital camera that is highly sensitive to light, NASA officials said.

The space station is currently home to six spaceflyers: two American astronauts, one Dutch astronaut, and three Russian cosmonauts.

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Old March 23rd, 2012, 07:33 PM   #30800
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