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Old February 2nd, 2008, 12:47 AM   #3421
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Hi all.

Thanx Glass - now I know what I am looking for.
My collection of plans is far from complete. Here is all I have of these levels. Perhaps you could post some of the detail you are referring to - and anything else you have also .

Level 158




level 158 Mezz.



Level 159 - First level of Tier 17



Level 160



Level 160 Mezz. 1



Level 160 Mezz. 2



Level 160 Mezz. 3 - First level of Tier 18



I see the TSD on level 160 and level 160 Mezz. 3 now. Perhaps someone has more prints and details they can post - Glass, Sky, Cul, Altin, anyone else ...

Yes OTR I saw the dampener on Culs diagram. I was trying to find it on some prints. I have that wind article already - thanx anyway - and nice pics from today.

Did I mention that I am looking for more blueprints - info on this magnificent structure.

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Old February 2nd, 2008, 12:53 AM   #3422
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[IMG]http://i30.************/20gbbsh.jpg[/IMG]
That image must be exaggerated. 1450 mm is a 4.75 ft sway. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If it does sway wouldn't it be pretty slow?
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 01:07 AM   #3423
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That image must be exaggerated. 1450 mm is a 4.75 ft sway. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If it does sway wouldn't it be pretty slow?
Of course that picture is exaggerated, height of the building is ~800m and the sway it's just 1.45m on the top. That is barely visible, that picture is for illustration only and the sway of the top there is like 50m or so.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 01:12 AM   #3424
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If you compare to the top of Sears Tower, it only moves 1 ft. In addition to the tuned damper at Mezz 160, drift is also limited by the BD design where the setbacks spiral design reduces the wind vortex around the BD structure.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 02:11 AM   #3425
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That image must be exaggerated. 1450 mm is a 4.75 ft sway. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If it does sway wouldn't it be pretty slow?
lol same here... if its by that much, i doubt people would like to live there. The image is exaggerated, thats why I was questioning the 50 Year Wind Event.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 03:31 AM   #3426
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Thanks for that, Old Town Resident. Looks interesting, just curious though, are sandstorms a regular happening in Dubai or seldom.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 04:35 AM   #3427
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lol same here... if its by that much, i doubt people would like to live there. The image is exaggerated, thats why I was questioning the 50 Year Wind Event.
Yeah, note that the top residential floor is only a 500mm sway.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 06:42 AM   #3428
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Not sure about the denotation of BS3/F on the plans but it does appear there is an elevator that wiill at least reach L160. The L160 M1 room seems to be occupied by maintenence equipment and the cable drum / motor. My only question is that the full stairs seem to climb to L160 then abruptly disappear. Perhaps they go down a hall or carry-over on a platform to reach the smaller scissor stair that can be viewed starting from L160 and going at least to L160 M3.

I think the thing I and several others are still wondering is to how far will the actual floorplates rise - ie. with corrugated decking topped with concrete and what people would consider real floors. Even if L160 to L160 M3 is a partial void for the most part due to the size of the tanks and storage, I'm curious if we'll see decking come back after these floors. I'd think not though because we're already to the last of the mechanical sections.

Of course another matter entirely is if any of this area will be open or passable by the public once the building opens. I can of course see why not, but it has been said time and again that Emaar would have to be stupid to not see the potential of a more secluded (and expensive) observation deck toward the very top of the building. For me, I do hope they have some way of letting people access the last 200+ meters of the building.

I'm gladly awaiting the day I can come and visit this thing firsthand but to only go up so far as the regular observatory does seem to be a slight letdown.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 07:58 AM   #3429
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Samsung get really shitty when I host all the blueprints on my server and I get a barrage of phone calls saying how they're going to hunt me down and kill me if I don't take them off!

It would be funny if they weren't being serious!

Anyway, next week I'm starting work on a much needed replacement to DMP with all the projects fully covered.

I will be giving out user accounts for people to log on and access "delicate" information accumulated for both BD and Al Burj.

If it doesn't come directly from me then I can't be blamed for the info appearing on the forums!
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 08:13 AM   #3430
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Ive been wondering about this for quite some time now. The 'drift' refers to the total range of movement or total movement form centre? So is total movement 1450mm or 2900mm...?
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 08:36 AM   #3431
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Off topic, but I've been reading about that third undersea cable getting cut, and that it may have cut off Dubai. Is anyone from there able to post still?
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 10:03 AM   #3432
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Samsung get really shitty when I host all the blueprints on my server and I get a barrage of phone calls saying how they're going to hunt me down and kill me if I don't take them off!

It would be funny if they weren't being serious!

Anyway, next week I'm starting work on a much needed replacement to DMP with all the projects fully covered.

I will be giving out user accounts for people to log on and access "delicate" information accumulated for both BD and Al Burj.

If it doesn't come directly from me then I can't be blamed for the info appearing on the forums!
Please let me know asap when you are ready to do that bud. I will really appreciate any new info you can give me access to. I will post it here no problem. I am fairly certain there are a few people on here that have new info ( or more info - prints ) that for some reason amounting to sacrelidge ( spelling ) they do not post.

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Old February 2nd, 2008, 10:04 AM   #3433
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amazing!!!!!!!
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 11:31 AM   #3434
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what's the population of Dubai?? really beautiful building
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 11:37 AM   #3435
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Off topic, but I've been reading about that third undersea cable getting cut, and that it may have cut off Dubai. Is anyone from there able to post still?
I live in Dubai and posting from here. I dont have any problem with my Internet.. it actually got faster than usual lol. I dont know about others though.

And the population of Dubai is around a million and a half and growing... workers outnumber residents 8 to 1.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 12:12 PM   #3436
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To answer freeksregistration, the population of dubai in 2006 was 1,492,000. 1200 in 1822, and 40 000 in 1960. (source wikipedia)
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 12:35 PM   #3437
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And I hope it will be 2,500,000 in 2010.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 01:13 PM   #3438
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And the population of Dubai is around a million and a half and growing... workers outnumber residents 8 to 1.
more like expat residents (you and me) outnumber local residents 9 to 1
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 02:46 PM   #3439
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Ive been wondering about this for quite some time now. The 'drift' refers to the total range of movement or total movement form centre? So is total movement 1450mm or 2900mm...?
should be 1450mm max. The buildingregulations in our country (Netherlands) say a building's maximal horizontal movement is limited tot 1/300 of the height of the building. In this case it should be at 768 meters -> 2.56 meters max. Concluding, for this height of building the horizontal movement is very low. This is much because of the concrete structure. Where the steel starts the movement increases almost exponentially.
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Old February 2nd, 2008, 04:20 PM   #3440
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Thx for your explanation Edwin.

Its intersting that the Netherlands have set this as the limit, but I dont know if that can be extrapolated to Dubai and the regulations there. Im not convinced that the full range of movement is only 1450mm even after considering the unique design of the BD which is made to counter this.
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