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Old February 6th, 2008, 11:18 PM   #3561
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^there like phantoms. work gets done but you never see them. that bent ladder isnt an accident. they do that sometimes to get around more easily. especially up 2000ft.
great pix imre.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 11:21 PM   #3562
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Deffinatly looks like something has gone wrong there.. the beams dont seem to line up now, this may cause construction to stop for a while if they have to order a new beam to go there... i hope no one was injured.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 11:32 PM   #3563
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There was not an accident. All is going as planned. That steel column has to be inclined in order to accomodate to the new layout of the new tier. In fact, in that photo you can see that on the right there aren't bits on top of the beams (like on the left side), indicating that it's in fact the floor of the next terrace. It may seem strange to not to have a vertical column there, but it's very clear on the plans.
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Old February 6th, 2008, 11:41 PM   #3564
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did anyone notice the concrete floors they are laying on steel formwork?
im fairly sure there are concrete floors up until floor 162, thus this what makes them inhabitable and thats why official floor count stops at 162. ;-)

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Old February 6th, 2008, 11:49 PM   #3565
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There was not an accident. All is going as planned. That steel column has to be inclined in order to accomodate to the new layout of the new tier. In fact, in that photo you can see that on the right there aren't bits on top of the beams (like on the left side), indicating that it's in fact the floor of the next terrace. It may seem strange to not to have a vertical column there, but it's very clear on the plans.
then explain why the ladder is tilted on a angel ? and why is the beam not straight. and also the tier doesnt start on this floor, it's the next floor
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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM   #3566
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then explain why the ladder is tilted on a angel ? and why is the beam not straight. and also the tier doesnt start on this floor, it's the next floor
The tier DOES start on floor 159, that is the next floor (we are at 158 and 158 mezzanine). Fury has already pointed it before.

The ladder is just following the inclined column. It's difficult to explain, but that column has to go inwards through level 158 and 158 mezz to permit the facade to pass around it at level 159 (the new tier).

Using Fury's diagram:



You can see that that column is aligned at floor 158, but slightly misaligned at floor 159 (it's more evident in the original pdf). The top of the beams in the photo will form the floor of level 159 (part of it a terrace).

I hope I made it clearer, although you will see it evident in a weeks time.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #3567
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i cant see what your on about in those diagrams, have u got bigger, more detailed versions of them?

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[IMG]http://i26.************/2e4jcq0.jpg[/IMG]

Is that what you're talking about?

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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:22 AM   #3568
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what will be last 100m of burj dubai??.ok antena maybe 100m.how high will be able a human to claime to antena.to reach the highest point oof burj(smoething like to empire or sears tower).and on wich high will be placed to turist, how high will go elevator and how high will go somebody without climbing-here i mean roof, wich is pretty small.
could somebody answer on these questions please
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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:27 AM   #3569
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I have rounded in red the column we were talking about. Note that it goes inwards. The same occurs to the other column at the bottom of the floor plans, that is, the one on the other side of the terrace. It needs to tilt for the same reason.

Yes Ember, that is what I was talking about. In that image you can see the other tilted column (lake side), not the one with the ladder.

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Old February 7th, 2008, 12:45 AM   #3570
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did anyone notice the concrete floors they are laying on steel formwork?
im fairly sure there are concrete floors up until floor 162, thus this what makes them inhabitable and thats why official floor count stops at 162. ;-)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9...esolt13ov5.jpg
Did you mean to say habitable? I thought having concrete floors would make them habitable.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:00 AM   #3571
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Did you mean to say habitable? I thought having concrete floors would make them habitable.

Only if you're using an American dictionary.


inhabitable - adjective -fit for habitation.

as opposed to

uninhabitable- adjective -not fit for habitation.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:08 AM   #3572
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Did you mean to say habitable? I thought having concrete floors would make them habitable.
you can have plywood sheathing over the steel beams and it would still be a habitable floor. So it does not necessarily have to be concrete to be habitable. Its another thing if it has to be concrete from the structural point of view.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:09 AM   #3573
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Did anyone notice that the last postcard mislabled the Waterfront Project as Palm Jebel Ali?
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Old February 7th, 2008, 01:22 AM   #3574
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Did anyone notice that the last postcard mislabled the Waterfront Project as Palm Jebel Ali?
Palm Jebel Ali is visible there as well.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 02:36 AM   #3575
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what will be last 100m of burj dubai??.ok antena maybe 100m.how high will be able a human to claime to antena.to reach the highest point oof burj(smoething like to empire or sears tower).and on wich high will be placed to turist, how high will go elevator and how high will go somebody without climbing-here i mean roof, wich is pretty small.
could somebody answer on these questions please
1.what will be last 100m?- well the last 50m will be the pinnacle.
2.how high will be able a human to claime to antena?- all the way to air craft beacon platform at 818m.
3.and on wich high will be placed to turist?- lev124 or 442m.
4.how high will go elevator ? -longest run will be lev138 or 514m.from there you can go up to lev162m or 624m.
5.how high will go somebody without climbing-here i mean roof, wich is pretty small?- well highest "balcony" tier is tier27 or 768m high.
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hope i answered your questions.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 03:39 AM   #3576
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Only if you're using an American dictionary.


inhabitable - adjective -fit for habitation.

as opposed to

uninhabitable- adjective -not fit for habitation.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm not sure where my brain went today.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 03:46 AM   #3577
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The cladding of this tower is really awesome..
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Old February 7th, 2008, 03:59 AM   #3578
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Great updates guys. How hot do you think it gets in the cabins that the crane drivers use?
They'll have some sort of air conditioning system surely?
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Old February 7th, 2008, 06:31 AM   #3579
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Ofcourse we do Stefan , infact we have such an advanced method of knowing wether a worker needs air-conditioning or not , its called (face down foamy mouth test) or
FDF-MT ... which basically is , we wait and see if any worker falls over face down and starts foaming from the mouth, then we know for sure this particular worker needs air conditioning.

Ok so back to the Burj Dubai Thread ! ill be going to Dubai this Friday and hoopefully zooming in on the Big Burj
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Old February 7th, 2008, 06:38 AM   #3580
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In that bottom postcard the palm jumeirah looks awfully wrong, looks more like the palm jebel ali
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