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Old March 8th, 2008, 09:39 AM   #4681
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Hi Fury, yes I keep forgetting I you managed to nab the latest version just before I removed it from my site.
If I remember rightly you managed to upload all of what had hosted?
The changes were over the 705m blueprints, not the 808m ones.
The height difference was exactly the same for both versions up until L154.
L154 was 4.2m not 4.8, L155 had no mezz level and was 4.8m not 6.4m (2x3.2m)
The first and each subsequent level went up in 5 blocks of 5 floors at 5.5m with no mezz, not 6.4m each devided by a mezz level.
So, yes the details you have are the updated ones after the second changes, but are not incorporated to the higher level changes that appear in the 3rd set of changes from June 2007.
In the powerpoint presentation they show changes that span the 705m and 808m changes.
For instance, they show the 808m version with the 705m spire erection methodology which I found fascinating.
The file name of the change is in the pdf files under the name revised-tower-height.pdf
It gives the other relevant PMI numbers for reference to the changes in height from 808m to 818m and the ongoing PMI's after that link to the revisions dated 27 June 2007.
If for some reason you don't have it...PM me your email address and I'll send all the files and some you may not have already!

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Been away working ( son in-law talked me into helping him out for 3 LONG days on a swab rig - Wayyyy too old for that ! ) - wow some kewl new info and great shots from Imre and OTR - Thanx to all.

Ok Sky - you have been a great contributer of fantastic info and plans - hell all the prints and mega info I have come from your efforts to keep us informed and I have nothing but praise for that - but .... - I gotta dispute the above quote. In no way am I saying you are trying to mislead us - perhaps the particular memo you got was in error.

I will use yet another great shot from Imre here. For the concrete portion I added arrows to show the pour lines that clearly show each pour. They used various pour steps and heights up to level 139 that I put into my plan by studying thousands of shots, but starting at 140 they used 3 pours of 3.2 m. for 2 - 4.8 m. levels. The shot shows they continued this to levels 150 and 151.

Because they only had 3 levels ( 152, 153, and 154 ) left before the 3.2 m. level 155 they changed to 4 - 3.6 m. pours for the 3- 4.8 m. levels. Then 155 and 155 mezz. were poured at 3.2 m each. The pour lines are clearly visable and are the same as planned by my eye.

The first steel level ( 156 ) looks to me to be the same height as 155 and 155 mezz. together ( 6.4 m. ). 157 looks like 6.4 m. as does 158 and 158 mezz. together.



Now I didn't take a tape measure to Dubai and go up and measure myself but I think the have stuck to the plan for these levels.





Please do not take this as any kind of bash my friend, I welcome the chance to make a ver. 4 of my plan - especially if it is to make it taller - but i see no evidence to take that action yet.

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Old March 8th, 2008, 09:47 AM   #4682
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30. Apartment at the sales center on a scale of 1:1. This one is located on the 60th floor and was sold for app. $2.5m. Now it is reselling at $5m. So that equals $2.5m / (365 x 3) = $2.283 value raise per day.
Yes Jan, mine is just underneath that one the same side on L59.
Mine has a premium of 189% in under a year and a half.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 10:19 AM   #4683
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that appartment looks just breath taking
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Old March 8th, 2008, 11:18 AM   #4684
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LOL @ The 'Stuby' Index!!

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Old March 8th, 2008, 11:57 AM   #4685
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They could of made an effort with the apartment showroom...
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Old March 8th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #4686
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we are at the rate of at least a page a day here now
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Old March 8th, 2008, 01:20 PM   #4687
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My god the steel is going so slowly, any idea when it might pick up a bit?
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Old March 8th, 2008, 04:25 PM   #4688
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It amazes me how complex and rich this structure looks. A western country would never have the guts or the money to build anything like it.
Tha FAA has a very strict rule that no building in the States can accede a hight of 2,000 feet. The Chicago Spire is being built right to that hight limit.
Also, in the States we have to pay Union Wages, which would make a building like Burj Dubai far more expensive to build here.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 04:55 PM   #4689
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oops never realize they are 40 of them.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 05:08 PM   #4690
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Yes Jan, mine is just underneath that one the same side on L59.
Mine has a premium of 189% in under a year and a half.
Are you actually moving there? Or is it just an "investment" like it's mostly done in dubai.
Just selling stuff over and over at a higher price but with actually rarely anybody moving there.

What height is level 60? Is it really that high above the Index? Index isn't exactly a "short" building.
When i see the burj now at about 610 metres @ 160 stories that makes level 60 @ about 230 metres... and you'd have to look up to the Index then.
It's no way that far down like on the picture.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 09:43 PM   #4691
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It's interesting in that maybe they made the showroom screen when the index was where it was during construction (or earlier). It looks finished (cladding on the building) but only to the first third of the building as you can see the ground (yet the joined formworks on top remain). My guess is either that it's just a rough idea of how things look for someone visiting the apartment or a sly tactic to show a view unblocked by the Index when even at L60 it will be to an extent (since Index is only 1/3 completed there).

I think it's still nicely done and whether that is all truth or fiction in reality still doesn't underscore the fact that the showroom is still just a nice way for prospects to get a general idea of the place. I'm sure people know it's not perfect but it looks just fine to me!

Steel's really going fast now!

I wonder how much longer until we see cladding on the mechanicals? Have any of you guys seen any larger HVAC stuff being moved in? Despite a district approach, this building must still have a crazy amount of large pumps / conditioners and other machinery going in.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 09:47 PM   #4692
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They have started cladding above the next setback, but it is on the the side that rarely get photographed.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #4693
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greet pictures jan! Wow
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Old March 9th, 2008, 04:23 AM   #4694
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OMG !!! These pics are the best !!! A new floor is going up, that means more than 620 m. now...
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Old March 9th, 2008, 05:02 AM   #4695
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i heard from radio this building will be delayed for some time. the swiss glass manufacory has been bankrupted,a chinese glass factory will provide the glass.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 05:11 AM   #4696
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i heard from radio this building will be delayed for some time. the swiss glass manufacory has been bankrupted,a chinese glass factory will provide the glass.
That information is almost a year old. The new company already took over, and as you can see by looking at the pictures, they had no problems at all making up for the lost time.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 05:26 AM   #4697
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Tha FAA has a very strict rule that no building in the States can accede a hight of 2,000 feet. The Chicago Spire is being built right to that hight limit.
Also, in the States we have to pay Union Wages, which would make a building like Burj Dubai far more expensive to build here.
How come? Is it only because of air traffic?
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Old March 9th, 2008, 06:12 AM   #4698
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Are they on the 6th steel floors now even?
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Old March 9th, 2008, 06:13 AM   #4699
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Are you actually moving there? Or is it just an "investment" like it's mostly done in dubai.
Just selling stuff over and over at a higher price but with actually rarely anybody moving there.

What height is level 60? Is it really that high above the Index? Index isn't exactly a "short" building.
When i see the burj now at about 610 metres @ 160 stories that makes level 60 @ about 230 metres... and you'd have to look up to the Index then.
It's no way that far down like on the picture.
Actually, people may have the impression that I'm an unscrupulous investor out for all he can get, but that's not so with this one.
I don't ever plan on selling it at any price as to me it's already priceless as this project is very close to my heart....besides...I have a 26 x 2 week x 25 year shared equity contract on the apartment anyway and my father is holding the contract deeds in trust.
The only time I physically benefit financially from it is when the last 30% down payment is made upon completion which is all profit.

So, to answer your question...will I be moving there....not until 2032 when the title deeds revert completely back to me once the contracts expire.
Until then all I get is 2 weeks per year for maintenance.

So it looks like I've got the floor at OTR's place 'til then!
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Old March 9th, 2008, 07:24 AM   #4700
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does anyone have any info on when the mech floor scaffolding goes up or pics of samples being tested?
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