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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:44 AM   #5321
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so is the spire going to be lowered in from the top and then attatched and raised back up.... i would have thought they would have built the spire first, then steel frame around it, and then hoist it up fully once the steels completed above it... that seems easier, but im not an architech so i'll shush lol.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:53 AM   #5322
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Good news on becoming the worlds tallest. I wonder if BD will hold the title for 17years or more? I doubt it very much.

I hope upon completion that a maintenance guy can take a picture looking down from the aircraft beacon platform at the top of the pinnacle. Something similar to this one from the top of the Empire State Building...

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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:55 AM   #5323
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Good news on becoming the worlds tallest. I wonder if BD will hold the title for 17years or more? I doubt it very much.

I hope upon completion that a maintenance guy can take a picture looking down from the aircraft beacon platform at the top of the pinnacle. Something similar to this one from the top of the Empire State Building...

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Do you have that pic in higher resolution??
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Old March 28th, 2008, 02:01 AM   #5324
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Those guys are rather brave =O
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Old March 28th, 2008, 02:16 AM   #5325
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so is the spire going to be lowered in from the top and then attatched and raised back up.... i would have thought they would have built the spire first, then steel frame around it, and then hoist it up fully once the steels completed above it... that seems easier, but im not an architech so i'll shush lol.
Surely the spire couldnt be taken up to the top in one piece? I would have thought it would be put together in sections as the building rises and then be raised to its final position. I stand to be corrected though.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 02:22 AM   #5326
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The spire will be assembled within the metal structure. It will then be hydraulically raised into place and permanently locked. This is the same strategy used by the builders of the Chrysler Building in New York.

Cul, can you post the version of your diagram showing this? I cant find it...
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Old March 28th, 2008, 02:54 AM   #5327
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This was posted earlier....


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CUL, although some differences in the plan below there are a number of references to the spire installation methodology in this diagram.

Thoughts Cul do you think we should see signs of the spire in the near future if access starts to become restricted by steel. ?

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Old March 28th, 2008, 03:27 AM   #5328
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i was referring to the Documentary on the Burj Dubai in the UK.. and its not a joke. i looked it up =D i cant wait!


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Did anyone else notice that the colour of the new "column" is white? ..... do u not think this cud be the first part of the spire? it doesnt look like steel to me.. its round and white O.o
To me too it seems totally different from the rest. It's centered on the top structure section, it's round and stainless steel/brushed aluminium colour (so resembling the cladding colour).
I think that it could plausibly be a segment of the spire.

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Old March 28th, 2008, 03:33 AM   #5329
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Hi all.

Here is the spire lifting plan that I stretched vertically to proper.



This has a wealth of info that I never took to notice before as the lifting was so far away.

First the new platform is probably a working platform as in the plan above. Thing is it is supposed to be on tier 19. I wonder what the reason for it being on tier 18 is ? ( no I don't think it is because the structure is going to be less than 818 m. )

I have been looking at this plan and I have an idea of the exact lifting proceedure but if someone can grasp fully what the proceedure is going to be perhaps you can enlighten us with your thoughts. It looks like there is going to be more than one lifting stage to me. Also looks like they are going to finish parts of the structure after the lifting is completed. Also looks to me they will finish tier 19 then start the lifting after that as Cul said. Kinda looks like they will continue building higher on 2 ( ? ) of the 3 wings and finish the third after lifting. This lifting proceedure is going to be very interesting and somewhat more complex than at first glance.

Thoughts and input please.

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Old March 28th, 2008, 03:35 AM   #5330
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Old March 28th, 2008, 03:47 AM   #5331
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Hi all.

Here is the spire lifting plan that I stretched vertically to proper.



This has a wealth of info that I never took to notice before as the lifting was so far away.

First the new platform is probably a working platform as in the plan above. Thing is it is supposed to be on tier 19. I wonder what the reason for it being on tier 18 is ? ( no I don't think it is because the structure is going to be less than 818 m. )

I have been looking at this plan and I have an idea of the exact lifting proceedure but if someone can grasp fully what the proceedure is going to be perhaps you can enlighten us with your thoughts. It looks like there is going to be more than one lifting stage to me. Also looks like they are going to finish parts of the structure after the lifting is completed. Also looks to me they will finish tier 19 then start the lifting after that as Cul said. Kinda looks like they will continue building higher on 2 ( ? ) of the 3 wings and finish the third after lifting. This lifting proceedure is going to be very interesting and somewhat more complex than at first glance.

Thoughts and input please.

OK, maybe the new platform could be the "working platform" indicated in the diagram, but I didn't notice the "loading stage" on Tier 16 either.
Have you seen it? If so, could you please evidence it to me?

Maybe the loading stage could be the one I circled, but -if so- it totally isn't as depicted in the diagram...

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Old March 28th, 2008, 03:51 AM   #5332
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This version of the diagram is small a comparasion with the culculla
See here this one seems not to be joined divides to the structure:



In my opinion is that podia to be that the part of green color is the derrick that was finishing it or algun mechanism to raise the spiral

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Thanks Fury, it will be very interesting indeed.

If they were to lift a section of spire into the structure now, would it begin with the very top section or a base section from the bottom? That new segment clearly isnt of large enough diameter to be from the bottom.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 04:01 AM   #5334
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Do you guys know what is the width of the core at the base of the building?

Thanks!
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Old March 28th, 2008, 04:47 AM   #5335
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BIG PROGRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Burj Dubai on 27 March 2007, exacetly one year ago!

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Old March 28th, 2008, 05:11 AM   #5336
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Congrat!!

We can start counting down to the time of history
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Old March 28th, 2008, 05:37 AM   #5337
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Do you guys know what is the width of the core at the base of the building?

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the core has basically stayed same size up to lev156. Its approx 25m wide.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 05:46 AM   #5338
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This version of the diagram is small a comparasion with the culculla
See here this one seems not to be joined divides to the structure:



In my opinion is that podia to be that the part of green color is the derrick that was finishing it or algun mechanism to raise the spiral
the reason its not fully built all the way is because the crane section is in the way. once the crane is moved then there going to finish
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Old March 28th, 2008, 08:25 AM   #5340
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for the mall nxt 2 it .....is it only for the people only for burj dubai or public??
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