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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:30 AM   #7061
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Its a light bulb you bell end ! !
You obviously havenīt been around many construction sites,
first of all, a construction site, especially a hyper-modern-marvel-site like like this would probably not use a 1940's light pole-ish light source in 600+- meters. second; this is obviously a 180° times 2 axes camera, witch makes sense thinking about the impracticality of having all the responsable managers having to reach 160+ floors up just to see current status of construction.

Then, talking about the impracticality of a sudden high rise city like dubai, where there is enough land, to have this sudden density of habitable areas makes me want to point out some facts.
I live in a city of only 180.000 people (our capital) and there the medium height of houses is like 3-4 floors, it is very wast and covers an area way bigger then 2 hong kong's, but we have problems, mainly traffic problems that should not exist in a city of that size, we have more then enough land space (witch is the reason for the form of the city today) and the efficiency of the whole city aria is really bad compared to number of inhabitants,
just imagine the waste of productivity and resources having a city diffused over a vast area when you could have it condensed in a tight space, we shouldnīt spend 30% of our time traveling between location!!!
new york could have expanded even further, but people realized it wasn't efficient at all.
In duabi, these areas become valuable from the start, therefore opening a shop in one of these building gives you allready a market of thousands of people within a short perimeter, makes sense, they simply create value from the start, that is what is driving this city, (will it work on the long run, we will just have to wait and see)
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Old May 16th, 2008, 05:32 AM   #7062
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is this massive steel? how thick is it? 15 cm?
Scaling from the plans those look to be 600x500mm I-beams so the thickness of the chords looks to be about 100mm, that is some serious steel.
Fury could probably confirm though.
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Old May 16th, 2008, 07:22 AM   #7063
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Fury, the official design diagrams state very clearly that the height figures are calculated starting from 11.5 meters above the Dubai Municipality Datum, which I believe represent the ground level on the plot the BD is build upon.

Just some food for thought
Hi Altin.

You are correct - the floor of the ground level is 11.5 m. above the DMD.

Here is something I posted ages ago ...

The top of the raft is 3.75 m. below the DMD.

[IMG]http://i28.************/o8tl3q.jpg[/IMG]

The floor of Ground Level is 15.25 above the raft.

15.25 minus 3.75 = the 11.5 m. the floor of the Ground Level is above the
DMD.

[IMG]http://i29.************/2nqds4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i26.************/2iuce9v.jpg[/IMG]

My plan has always said that 0.00 is the floor of the Ground Level.

Just some more food for thought ...

As I was saying to Cul in my last post IMO the official height will be 818.0 measured from the floor of the Ground Level to the floor of the top platform. That is what the plans say.

[IMG]http://i29.************/2zqst39.jpg[/IMG]

I do see what Cul is saying that the handrail on top is permanent and may be included in the official height - so 819.1. Also I was just pointing out that they usually measure from "grade" and the entrance on one side of the structure opens to the Concourse Level 6 m. below the Ground level.

That being said I still think ( IMO ) the official height will be 818.0 m. but we will have to wait and see.

Hey B787 any plans I have aren't that detailed - but the I beam does look very robust.

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Old May 16th, 2008, 09:59 AM   #7064
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Old May 16th, 2008, 10:08 AM   #7065
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Burj Dubai threads need to be 10.000+ posts because otherwise there would be like 482 single threads due to the unbelievable number of bullshit being posted here...
haha ok, it shouldn't take long though!
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:34 PM   #7066
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I love this picture.It seems like just the other day there was nothing behind these hotels and now suddenly there stands a futuristic city growing out of the desert.Amazing
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Old May 16th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #7067
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Hi all,

I have a little question about windows on Burj Dubai, are they open-able? And if they are then how high is the last open-able window?

I understand that most of people will probaby mock me for that sort of question. My opinion is that there are no open-able windows on Burj Dubai - but I don't really know and that's why I'm asking.

What about other, let's say, ~300m buildings? How does the situation looks like there?

Thank you
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:24 PM   #7068
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BD windows are not openable when i remember right
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:31 PM   #7069
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omfg, it's amazing, i think it's best skyline in the world
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:41 PM   #7070
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BD windows are not openable when i remember right
have you been inside?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #7071
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i saw imre's inside pics


does this look like open-able windows??:

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Old May 16th, 2008, 02:53 PM   #7072
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From all over Dubai ...
Its hard NOT to Spot BD from any point in Dubai ..

[IMG]http://i32.************/zmxt1f.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i31.************/riw6et.jpg[/IMG]

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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:03 PM   #7073
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I heard rumour Dubai planning to build a new tower over 3400 meters tall.
Actually the Al Burg is now rumoured to be 1400m...about 3/4 mile tall!
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #7074
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burj dubaj . burj dubaj its a monster
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Old May 16th, 2008, 03:53 PM   #7075
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i saw imre's inside pics


does this look like open-able windows??:
How will these holes be hided?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:00 PM   #7076
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Hi all,

I have a little question about windows on Burj Dubai, are they open-able?
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What about other, let's say, ~300m buildings? How does the situation looks like there?

Thank you
I don't think so. Those buildings have air-conditioning, don't need to have openable windows. It's also a matter of complexity of a cladding (I think).
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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:02 PM   #7077
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thanks fury.
ive been working a for a few hours on this pinnacle drawing.
ive worked out the last real part of the bldg is tier 24 or 739m level.(fl198)
because after that you have to be inside the pinnacle to climb up internal ladder. then at tier 25, 26 and 27 you stand on internal grate and open small door which takes you out onto each small balcony.
below tier24, you have an internal room which has access by ladder. (you also have ladder access all the way through the pinnacle which starts way down at tier20B.)
For everyone to understand ive made the pinnacle see -though so you see ladder. also made spire tiers above tier24 see-through.
Thus actually pinnacle is visable from tier24 , or rises 80m above this tier.
i wonder which is last section to have see through windows?
Also ive shown scale by 1.8m workman.


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Old May 16th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #7078
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Climbing to the top under high wind

Great diag btw
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Old May 16th, 2008, 05:37 PM   #7079
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Thanks for the diagram!

What will be on floor 196 and 197? Only ladders? Or a viewpoint for the CEO only?
And what's with the man on the top and the man on tier 27? Are they waving or do they have some sort of ideology?
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Old May 16th, 2008, 05:55 PM   #7080
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Well it looks like it's a good thing that the spire will have internal ladders. I'd probably pee in my pants if I had to climb an external ladder to climb to the top. It would be so cool to set up a romantic private dinner for two on level 98.
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