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Old May 21st, 2008, 11:51 PM   #7281
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As far as I remember there were two damper levels marked on Cul's diagram, but I don't know more details...
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:30 AM   #7282
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yes there where going to be dampers on lev160 of burjD but throughout past year , engineers have tested the structure and worked out that it wont require a damper due to its strong design.
guys, looks like burjD will be measured from concourse level when completed and final height is known. thus 6m more then current heights indicated.
so 825m looks like being height. i also agree with this .
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:45 AM   #7283
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when i remember right, there will be no Damper in the BD
nope, the building is a perfect example of vortex shedding. even at 700m there's no need for mech dampers. that alone tells you how good this design is. Taipei 101 is only 509m and it needs mech dampers, i really dont think there's going to be any design in the future that will be good as the burj dubai in design and a example of vortex shedding
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:47 AM   #7284
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I have a question, now the discussion has started about from which point BD´s final height will be measured, but from which point do we had measured it until now?
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:53 AM   #7285
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we have been measuring from highest ground level which is ground level.
as you can see here the concourse level is the one facing lake
these were posted by fury


as you can see its the "main" entrance


this is where the boutique office lobby,meeting,ballrooms, restaurantss,loading docks mep pool are located.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:43 AM   #7286
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why does the photo say that "level 1" is on the second floor?
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:48 AM   #7287
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^alot of building plans say this. they never count the ground level as level 1. its always the first storey. but tall building databases always include ground floors as the 1st floor.
diagram update
ive amended ground levels and spire stats
may make things little clearer
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 07:28 AM   #7288
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why does the photo say that "level 1" is on the second floor?
It looks like outside of the United States they call the first floor the ground floor and the second floor the first floor. Maybe it's like calling an elevator a lift.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 11:16 AM   #7289
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Yes In europe ( in France anyway ) we say ground floor for the first level and first floor for the second level.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:29 PM   #7290
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Exactly, in the Netherlands too.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:33 PM   #7291
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yes, and in Germany too!
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 12:56 PM   #7292
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Yes, even in Belgium, so i think in all of Europe
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:03 PM   #7293
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in HK too
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:12 PM   #7294
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in Poland too. I thing in whole world its called that way. It seems only US for some reason needs different name for that

ps. of course im not sure of that...
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:18 PM   #7295
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Back home in my parent's home multi storey building (build by an American investor) it gets really confusing. The floor they live in is labelled 7 but they have to press 6 on the elevator.


BTW, I've been able to spot only 2 new columns on top, but that doesn't mean there might not be more of them.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:33 PM   #7296
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Back home in my parent's home multi storey building (build by an American investor) it gets really confusing. The floor they live in is labelled 7 but they have to press 6 on the elevator.


BTW, I've been able to spot only 2 new columns on top, but that doesn't mean there might not be more of them.
next time can you take pics ?
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:38 PM   #7297
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too tall, but too thin.

i love this tower, how would they clean those cladding?
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 01:45 PM   #7298
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Back home in my parent's home multi storey building (build by an American investor) it gets really confusing. The floor they live in is labelled 7 but they have to press 6 on the elevator.


BTW, I've been able to spot only 2 new columns on top, but that doesn't mean there might not be more of them.
Hehe this can get confusing.

Here we call the ground level "first floor" and second level "second floor".

I've seen a commercial school building here, "officially" the top floor is labeled as "3rd floor". But there's a "mezzanine floor" between the first and second. So it's physically a 4 storey building.
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Old May 22nd, 2008, 02:42 PM   #7299
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too tall, but too thin.
Honestly, if you are in front off this building. You wouldnt say that.

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i love this tower, how would they clean those cladding?
They use special cladding cleaning machines to give this building bling bling!

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Old May 22nd, 2008, 02:46 PM   #7300
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too tall, but too thin.

i love this tower, how would they clean those cladding?
With water, soap, a cloth and a Squeegee perhaps?

Also using the window cleaning gantries located at the towers mechanical floors will come in useful...
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