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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #9321
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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:34 PM   #9322
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Yeah, exactly, is there somebody who knows whether BD has some special protections in case of earthquake? Its height indicate that the architects and constructors should have thought about it, shouldn't they?
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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:36 PM   #9323
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Yeah, exactly, is there somebody who knows whether BD has some special protections in case of earthquake? Its height indicate that the architects and constructors should have thought about it, shouldn't they?
There was the idea of putting a so called 'tuned mass damper' in the tower, but they finally didn't do that. So I don't know exactly what they did in place.

Here's a nice video of a tuned mass demper in action in the Taipei 101: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYSgd1XSZXc
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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:43 PM   #9324
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Absolutley beautiful!! When constrction first started and all we had were the renders (yes Ive been lurking here that long lol) I wasnt sure if I would like it. But now I can see the (near) finished proportions from the ground and even from the air and the facing I really like this (hope one day ill be able to go to Dubai and see it first hand).
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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:46 PM   #9325
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This tuned mass damper is a very interesting solution. I didn't know that there is such a thing. But if there's no earthquakes in Dubai, it is surely unnecessary.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #9326
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hope one day ill be able to go to Dubai and see it first hand.
Second that.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 03:50 PM   #9327
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This tuned mass damper is a very interesting solution. I didn't know that there is such a thing. But if there's no earthquakes in Dubai, it is surely unnecessary.
You can't say that.

earthquake can happen anytime, maybe tommrow? maybe next few minute..

nobody know!
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Old August 18th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #9328
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You're right Shahid but there are some areas on earth where possibility of earthquake is so small that it is not necessary to pay for a device which probably (99%) won't be used and which is very expensive. But I don't know whether Dubai is an erathquake-probable area or not. In Warsaw where I live none of the buildings (which are of course much smaller than those in Dubai) has such solution because there are no earthquakes here
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Old August 18th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #9329
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I took from the taxi 4 years ago

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Old August 18th, 2008, 04:27 PM   #9330
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yeah for example chicago,miami had an earthquake in this century.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:24 PM   #9331
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I took from the taxi 4 years ago

28/Aug/2004

It is really amazing what has happened here. I was a little bit skeptic when i heard of these plans but by now it is standing proud and strong.

And Imre : Thanks a super lot for your fantastic pictures. You made history rising for everybody on this site.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:26 PM   #9332
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Dubai not far away from iran. Where there's a whole plate called iranian plate surrounded by plate boundaries.

But the chance of earth quake or tsunami happening in dubai is lower that of London where nothing happened since ever. http://www.uaeinteract.com/docs/Eart...ndon/24795.htm
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:47 PM   #9333
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Fantastics Updates Imre!!
btw, do you have more pics of Burj Dubai in 2004 and early 2005 ? like pics of the foundation work and early site prep ?
Much Appreciated

http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?i...esolt58hg1.jpg

I really like this picture alot. It shows some nice detailed architecture and also gives us a sense of how big, even at that height, the tower still is.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:50 PM   #9334
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thanks, unfortunatelly not , just from outside.security was difficult and I was not in Dubai always.
Maybe AltinD or DubaiLover have more.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:56 PM   #9335
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This is a map for the middle east

So Dubai could have a problem when a earthquake occurs.

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Old August 18th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #9336
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Come on guys, the possibility of earthquakes has been considered while designing the tower.

PS. As for the early stage construction pics: None of us Dubai forumers were able to take any pic due to the huge fence surrounding the site a few hundreds meters from the tower's location. The first set of pics we have are from May - June 2005 when the construction of the structure had just started (we climbed the roof of the 250 meters tall Chelsea Tower in SZR). However there has been some pictures of the piling and rafting surfacing later. I remember when the first aerial pic came in, showing the completed Y-shaped base of the tower and we were all arguing how tiny it was and if it was only the central core or the base of the entire tower.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 09:34 PM   #9337
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http://www.uaeinteract.com/docs/Eart...ndon/24795.htm This is how rare earthquakes can be at dubai.

The structure as many knows can flex against the earthquake power instead of being stiff against it. If the engineers went the other way and made the tower resist against the earthquakes by making it stiff, it would've been a very risky game.

Besides even the cladding was designed to resist earthquake vibrations.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #9338
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I think that will be the Burj Dubai Lake Park or some towers of The Residences.



1- burj dubai

2- dubai mall

3- the old town

4- burj dubai boulevard

5- the residences (18 towers)

5a- the residences (18 towers)

6- burj dubai lake park

7- south ridge (6 towers)

8- burj dubai business hub (6 low-rises)

9- burj dubai lake hotel (63 storeys 300m)

10- buej dubai metro station

11- the lofts (3 towers)

12- burj views (3 towers)

13- 8 boulevard walk (38 storeys)

14- Doha Street

15- Sheikh Zayed Road

What no Cul-de-sacs, color me suprised. This is the most suburban master plan I've ever seen. I wish Dubai would just build on a grid, and not a whimsical suburban plan. Notice how the green still receeds into sand.
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Old August 18th, 2008, 09:47 PM   #9339
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hahaha no offence cos i love this tower but the burj dubai part in the photo looks like

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hahaha no offence cos i love this tower but the burj dubai part in the photo looks like

OMG, how you can even think on that...
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