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Old October 1st, 2008, 07:49 PM   #10561
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Thats one unique view on Dubai (and especially BD) indeed!!
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Old October 1st, 2008, 07:55 PM   #10562
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You need to focus manually in those conditions, your feet are sharp i bet

With the 450D you can use Lifeview's 10x image crop and fine tune the focus with your hand, it works wonders for getting far away objects razor sharp.
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Old October 1st, 2008, 08:01 PM   #10563
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You need to focus manually in those conditions, your feet are sharp i bet

With the 450D you can use Lifeview's 10x image crop and fine tune the focus with your hand, it works wonders for getting far away objects razor sharp.
Cheers, but excuse my photographic ignorance.

Can you PM me more info on Lifeview etc, would be appreciated
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Old October 1st, 2008, 08:43 PM   #10564
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Very nice updates folks really awesome! Including those last ones
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Old October 1st, 2008, 09:18 PM   #10565
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OTR! Many, many thanks for all the great pictures!
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 12:00 AM   #10566
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great pic updates ,the spire diameter looks to be about 1200mm ,i didnt realise the ladder had stop off points , will there be any lighting inside the spire ?
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 12:54 AM   #10567
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^the stop off points are levels.every 3.2m.up to tier27. after that there small landings ,enough for 1 person to stand on.
the only lighting inside spire would be maybe a small light every few landings for the maintenace guy.
the cuurent photos of pinnacle lying down is 1.35m and increasing to 1.5m dia. section.

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the pinnacle is made of galvanized steel
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top of pinnacle showing external fins
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 01:45 AM   #10568
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cul , whats the idea behid the fins? any reason for them?

imagine being the bloke installing the aircraft lights ! U would shit yourself up there wouldnt you ! hehe !
i just cant believe how massive this thing is !
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 01:57 AM   #10569
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The BD from The pool and gardens of “The Address” Aka BD Lake Hotel.

Sneaked into the 63rd floor (no security) but too bright and to many reflections to get a good pic, but wow the best view in Dubai, in particular the Burj Dubai.

What is in there (The Adress)? Could you just go in and take an elevator? Getting very courageous lately, huh? Thx alot, i really appreciate it. Awesome contribution

Too bad there are too many people here who are just mind blowing ignorant and don't read any previous posts
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 02:11 AM   #10570
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Hi all.

Firstly :
- Thanx for the pics OTR - that view from the 63rd level of the address makes for a great site aerial.
- DennisS - your pics are as welcomed and studied as anyones. Any and all pics help to paint the "big picture" because of the various angles etc.
My hats off to both of you and to all the photogs in Dubai. (I wanted to post that smiley 500 times but I thought better of it ... )

Thanks for the comments Cul, OTR, Cooperchris, Milansson, and B787-938. Discussion is good - we are on a forum afterall. I try to get my technical observations out in a manner that can be understood by all but sometimes it may ramble a bit. I know what I am trying to say but I may go too far trying to make it understandable - besides, once my 2 typing fingers get sore they just hit whatever keys they want.

Ok - now we have a conundrum. OTR was within touching distance of the pinnacle laying there and I don't doubt his pipeline expertise on the fact the wall thickness is ~ 30 mm. Various people here figured the diameter of the big end laying there is 1.5 m. by using the cladding etc. to compare to. The wall thickness of tier 28 / pinnacle 2 (the tier that is 1.5 m. dia.) is 55 mm.

1 - It is a pretty small difference between 1.5 m. and 1.35 m. If the big end is actually tier 29 / pinnacle 3 at 1.35 m. dia. then the wall thickness is 40 mm. which is closer to ~ 30 mm. We know the big end is tier 29 or lower and not tier 30 because of the transition from the small end to the big end. The wall thickness of tier 30 is 35 mm. to 30 mm. higher up but we know for sure that big end is not tier 30.

2 - Perhaps there is a deeper taper to the weld point at the end that makes it look thinner than it actually is (I can't see that just from a strength standpoint). We can see the angle cut so when the 2 pieces are together ready for welding there is a v to fill.

3 - Perhaps they changed the plans to a thinner wall thickness for the pinnacle tiers ?



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Those photos of the spire look like it's made of carbon steel. That sounds a little strange because it will be impossible to work on it once it's installed and carbon steel would require repainting. I would have expected it to be made of aluminum or stainless steel. What's anybody else think?
Hi msradell.

The plans call for any parts of the pinnacle that are exposed to have a "high performance thermal sprayed aluminum coating"

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Old October 2nd, 2008, 04:06 AM   #10571
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The BD from The pool and gardens of “The Address” Aka BD Lake Hotel.

Sneaked into the 63rd floor (no security) but too bright and to many reflections to get a good pic, but wow the best view in Dubai, in particular the Burj Dubai.
Aren't you confusing that name with the name of the Dubai Mall's Hotel? If you go to the thread by the name of The Address, its all about the yellow/orange dubai mall hotel. These pictures look like they are from the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel.

Oh and can someone post a link to the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel thread? For the life of me I can't find it on here.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 04:46 AM   #10572
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Hi all.
The plans call for any parts of the pinnacle that are exposed to have a "high performance thermal sprayed aluminum coating"

I'm very surprised they're using a coating of any type, seems like overtime they would deteriorate causing the carbon steel to be exposed and start rusting. You're certainly not going to be able to do a touch-up job at a later date. By any chance does anyone know the specs of the material they are using? I've got a couple of applications where it might be worth considering.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 04:54 AM   #10573
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Carbon???

I don't see any reason why they would have carbon steel for the spire, unless it has to resist huge amount of pressure and weight. I can see that is the 3 steel parts welded together and its very hard and sometimes impossible to weld carbon steel, and most of the times they wouldn't.
I don't know where you learn to weld, but carbon steel is one of the easiest materials to weld as long as you know what you're doing. Unless special corrosion resistance is required it's the material of choice for most piping and pressure vessels. It's certainly much easier to weld than Stainless Steel or Aluminum and well strength is not a problem.
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 06:12 AM   #10574
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ausie, please dont do that again. it fux with computers.
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What was posted? I missed it before it was taken down...

Not that I'm requesting it being posted again, haha...just looking for some description.

EDIT:

Haha...nevermind...smiley flood.

Anyway...the BD is looking incredible...can't wait for more spire action.

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Old October 2nd, 2008, 07:51 AM   #10575
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Aren't you confusing that name with the name of the Dubai Mall's Hotel? If you go to the thread by the name of The Address, its all about the yellow/orange dubai mall hotel. These pictures look like they are from the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel.

Oh and can someone post a link to the Burj Dubai Lake Hotel thread? For the life of me I can't find it on here.
The Address aka The Burj Dubai Lake Hotel is the same Emaar chain of luxury hotels that The Mall Hotel also comes under.

The BDLH has been recently moved to the completed thread for obvious reasons.

No Im not confused by any building in the BD downtown area its my home!

I can recommend a visit to the 63rd floor in the BDLH, it will save a lot of money on helicopter hire, but for some reason the view from the 63rd felt as though I was in line with the BD 99th crane level. Maybe just an optical illusion of sorts.

[IMG]http://i34.************/r0xiee.jpg[/IMG]

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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:12 AM   #10576
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Good morning everyone! Here we go again...













Super, viewing it from the 63rd floor, truly an amazing viewpoint! With a little bit luck I will also be there next week, lets see if I can make some pics up there, would be cool!
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 08:30 AM   #10577
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The Address aka The Burj Dubai Lake Hotel is the same Emaar chain of luxury hotels that The Mall Hotel also comes under.

The BDLH has been recently moved to the completed thread for obvious reasons.

No Im not confused by any building in the BD downtown area its my home!

I can recommend a visit to the 63rd floor in the BDLH, it will save a lot of money on helicopter hire, but for some reason the view from the 63rd felt as though I was in line with the BD 99th crane level. Maybe just an optical illusion of sorts.

[IMG]http://i34.************/r0xiee.jpg[/IMG]
heres a diagram i used to update.
i think lev63 would be up 270m
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 09:06 AM   #10578
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gosh! that was GODLIKE!!!!!! its kinda launching towards outer space!!!!!! really love the burj! im very impress, much so with the palm and the world!!!!!
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 09:17 AM   #10579
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[QUOTE=CULWULLA;26036322]heres a diagram i used to update.
i think lev63 would be up 270m
QUOTE]

Thanks Culwulla,

So the fountains when they open will reach this height basically.

WOW, I can only imagine what this will look like
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Old October 2nd, 2008, 09:19 AM   #10580
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good, 5 steel floors of cladding.

Is the 2nd cane constantly being dismantled now?
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