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Old January 2nd, 2009, 09:56 PM   #13821
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I dunno if info published here, French construction mag "Le moniteur" n5455 (can't access to the direct source because of the subscription but info publish to wikipedia) claim burj Dubai cladding cleaning could take 3 or 4 months .
Not very long considering the fact that cleaning burj al arab takes 2 months
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hhBNW0aSbM
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 09:59 PM   #13822
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Nice idea in theory, but my experience with the Dubai dust is: Any attempt to just shower it off is useless, thorough wiping is necessary. Know it from our villa's windows. Just to spray water is not enough, it leaves even uglier marks than leaving the dust coat as it is... For my part I stopped window cleaning completely - its just pointless here.
Maybe chemical stuff?

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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:09 PM   #13823
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Without wanting to go off topic: Any soap would do, even just clear water and wiping it off. Thing is, the dust is everywhere at all times, year round... I'd clean the windows one day, two days later it looks as if I did nothing. Its just frustrating.

Of course, Burj Dubai has to be nice and shiny (and surely will be). So hats off to the people who will have to keep the motivation to do this full time job. Well, considering the view the job won't be that bad after all... I'll volunteer to do the upper tiers every once in a while. If I can take my camera
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:13 PM   #13824
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Well, the windows are looking already shiny now. So for me it doesn't need cleaning at all. Maybe few times a year.

But of course, the people working and living inside still want to have their view.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:18 PM   #13825
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U r right, they are really shiny, although they're dusty... when cladded and cleaned completely, the Burj will blind one's sight

And I agree, from below and far away noone will notice if the windows have been cleaned recently. Its different from the inside... (Pics taken inside the giant bookstore at Dubai Mall)



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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:01 PM   #13826
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Well off-topic, but Desert Diver, have you tried this as a "dust repellent" solution? http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/lv_hou...366335,00.html

I wonder if it works with SAND, that seems to be the real problem over there.



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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:18 PM   #13827
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this one is better?
All your pics Imre are awesome

Windows cleaning its a little problem especially highest floors...
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:30 PM   #13828
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np we have many ex suicide bombers ... at least nearby
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 12:09 AM   #13829
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Not very long considering the fact that cleaning burj al arab takes 2 months
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hhBNW0aSbM
Thanks for the link, I think 3 or 4 months is for the first claddings cleaning and BD has 142 000 m2 of cladding if I am not wrong.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 12:35 AM   #13830
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All your pics Imre are awesome

Windows cleaning its a little problem especially highest floors...
Indeed, i wonder how they will ever clean the recently added wings on the spire?
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 02:17 AM   #13831
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Is this tower earthquake proof?
Burj Dubai is built like a tripod and should be stable in an earthquake.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 03:22 AM   #13832
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I first started to watch the BD at the start of 2007, and I can't believe it is nearly done.

Over the past week, I have been building a model of the Burj Dubai out of LEGO that is nearly 4 Metres high.




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Old January 3rd, 2009, 03:30 AM   #13833
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An helicopter would do the cleaning job

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Old January 3rd, 2009, 03:37 AM   #13834
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what about self cleaning glass?
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 04:07 AM   #13835
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That lego BD rules. Too bad about the cat in the picture, though.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 04:17 AM   #13836
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Just tilt the fountains towards BD. I think they will do half of the job, if not 3/4.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 05:59 AM   #13837
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Indeed, i wonder how they will ever clean the recently added wings on the spire?
The BMU's are up on the top of the highest 2 wings already. Probably on all 3 but there is no clear shot of the third wing. The Building Maintenance Units are small booms that can swing around the wing and will have a platform hanging from it that can be lowered down to the bottom of the wing.

The BMU's for the lower bigger wings will have booms that are extendable so they can continue down past the next terrace that sticks out more. I think I read somewhere there is to be a dozen or so BMU's.

There was also to be a monorail around the top platform that a platform could hang down from and swing around the pinnacle. It looks like they may have dropped the idea as there is clearly no rail there now. They still could put it up yet as it is bolted but it is looking unlikely as it would be a major bitch to drag the parts and tools up the internal ladder.

I think the structure is going to be in a continuous state of cleaning. Yes, the operation and maintenance of this thing will be a large undertaking employing many people.


I noticed in the new(er) schedule that the Office annex was to be a ground level, 6 levels, roof, and penthouse. Those have been structurally finished for some time now. The steel levels that are going up now are obviously revisions in the plans. It will be interesting to see how many levels they add.

Here is a shot from 08 07 12. We can see the roof and penthouse of the office annex (on the right side) look finished and cleaned.



Here is a shot from 08 11 26. We can see the penthouse has been partially taken down and there is a bunch of stuff lying around up there in preparation for the new steel levels. Also there is 2 tower cranes erected beside the annex.



Here is a shot from 08 12 19. We can see the penthouse appears to be totally revamped and the start of the (first ?) 3 steel levels being erected.




After top out, finishing the connections and cladding, and crane dismantling we will have 8 to 10 months of internal construction including lifts, MEP, and fitout among many other things. We may not get to see much of this work as there is no site visits anymore. I remember those 2 site visits Imre gave us pics from (among other people's) were some of the most interesting updates. I hope they will start allowing site visits again. We will still get many pics of the completed exterior before and after the grand opening but it would be nice to "watch" the interior work as well. Well - we will still get to see the finishing around the base and the landscaping - that should be cool too.

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Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:03 AM   #13838
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:45 AM   #13839
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Fury, could you tell me what that large opening is for on the second mechanical level that has not been cladded yet ? I have been wondering for quite some time just what those 3 level openings are for exactly. I was hoping you might know.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:50 AM   #13840
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Has there been any more jacking? Just going past it now in a taxi, and the spire looks taller to me today.
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