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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:17 PM   #14661
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can it be, that ZZ-II uses an old plan with the 808m-version?

i still believe in T/O

but let's wait, what Fury has to say
yes, i used the 808m plan. but you should know that the only difference between the 808m version and the 818m one is the height of the spire. there's absolutely no difference in the steel section or at the cladding on the spire...just the part above the last cladding

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Is it possible that you mix something up with the railings on the top of each tier? Because i count 9 floors + 1 railing. And i see other parts in your diagramm which are splitted, i would recommend to count it as one, and not as two... And your diagramm also shows 4 floors for each tier, which is wrong, on every photo you can see, that there are 3 floors in tier 24, 25 and 26. I am really sorry to say this, but thats really not a good diagramm. I definitely stick with my dicision, that it is topped out!
i counted the rails also in the updates from imre
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:19 PM   #14662
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Yip, when did you start?
OK, if you want

Burj Dubai current height: 818m don't keep asking on thread.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:21 PM   #14663
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Hi all.

Nice shots Imre, OTR, and 234.

Hey guys here is a labelled shot from 234 showing the relation between the tier 23 steel larger wing and tier 23 pinnacle pipe / small wings.



Hey ZZ. We can see that 6 cladding "levels" on the small wings are the same height as 3 sections of the steel of the larger wings of tier 23 (and lower). The 3 - 6.4m. sections are the same height as the 6 - 3.2m. cladding "levels".

We can see in the shot the top half of tier 23 small wings are done. They will attach the bottom half now and then jack to top out.

Library. You may be correct in your interpretation of the CTBUH wording - not sure - but I will celebrate top out when the 818.0m. height is reached.

So Saturday may be top out. A good day for a party.

This was what made us sure it was topped out today, the tops of both sides of 'tier 23' marked here are now level. Today's jacking was of 3x 3.2m cladding 'levels'.

Also, from Culwulla's last diagram (11th Jan, about 100 pages back somewhere!)

Edit: it's here http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/...01529ebd_o.jpg (1.2Mb) or page 711 of this thread

tiers 24, 25 and 26 are 10m, 10m and 9m respectively, whereas tier 23 is 19m. Today's jacking was the same as the height of tier 24, but half the height of tier 23 ie 9.5m - so we're at 818 now surely?

Fury, Culwulla, where are you?

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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:40 PM   #14664
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Please, whats the radius of that spire???
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #14665
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that depends on the hight
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #14666
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Let it be over.
The basic math from what is shown above.


808m (previous height) +3 (section lifted (3below and 9above tier23 (total 12))) *3.2m (length of each section)= 808m+9.6m= 817.6 or ~818m

Let’s celebrate people it is a TOP OUT.818

p.s. I guess the 0.4m offset could be compensated if they install the handrail on top of the pinnacle.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #14667
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Please, whats the radius of that spire???
2.1m then 1.5m then 1.35m then 1.2m.

Edit: those are diametres btw
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:53 PM   #14668
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omg.. this confusion is driving me crazy

Anyway, it was awesome to follow the growth of this structure. Thanks to all who cooperate making this thread was it is
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:53 PM   #14669
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Let it be over.
The basic math from what is shown above.


808m (previous height) +3 (section lifted (3below and 9above tier23 (total 12))) *3.2m (length of each section)= 808m+9.6m= 817.6 or ~818m

Let’s celebrate people it is a TOP OUT.818

p.s. I guess the 0.4m offset could be compensated if they install the handrail on top of the pinnacle.
Avanguard, thanks for proving to me that my maths ain't that bad...
C'mon guys, we're finally there!!
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:56 PM   #14670
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:02 PM   #14671
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first of all: lots of you guys suddenly became extremly knowlagable, making decissions and stuff. funny

and as forr the jack: in my opinion it hasn't topped out, just like otr said, and as for proof:




the green lines show you the floors. as you see the manhole moved only a bit more than one floor up. it may be the highest structure on earth, but i don't belive it has 10m floors.


and as for the cladding. if you compare the yellow line to the green one, you can see, that there are two cladding pieces, for one floor. and this again is a proof for going up about 4m, leaving the building at ~812m.




btw the emaar guys must be quite entertaining people, even getting the idea of visually increasing the tower height by making the top cladding smaller demands some specific way of thinking. i'm sure having a dinner with them must be soooooooo interesting.

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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:10 PM   #14672
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I won't celebrate untill there comes an official verification from Emaar. And I don't care if that means I'd miss the party.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:13 PM   #14673
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Jarott,
From Culwulla's diagram, those floors are 6m each, so it only had to move up a floor and a half...
It has moved up the height of three of the cladding panels on the right hand side of your picture, which Fury said were 3.2m each
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:22 PM   #14674
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Im sure Culwulla wont mind me using one of his older drawings to highlight the 6m levels referred (including mezzanine floors)

So OK topped out before the kiddies head for bed.

Change title to 812m

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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:28 PM   #14675
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Here's the Culwula's diagram...

I was copy the upper part where the spire should be where is T/O and paste it lower where the cladding is...As you can see if they lift the spire up for that height, there will be 9 cladding sections (nine red spots) above the rest of the steel...And then will Burj Dubai be T/O...



On the todays Imre's update picture, we can see that nine cladding sections (nine spots) are above the rest of the steel...



So Burj Dubai is topped out...
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:30 PM   #14676
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Change title to 812m
LOL...
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:33 PM   #14677
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LOL...
definitely 818!
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:36 PM   #14678
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rename title to "deconstruction because of mathematic error"...
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Old January 17th, 2009, 11:39 PM   #14679
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hey guys, you showed it yourself: the top floors are 3m. so if the manhole moved ~one floor up, what was prooved, then we have a 4m rise MAX. what's so complicated about it?

btw dinovabec: you missed 3 dots on the diagram :>



otr: this amount of sarcasm may couse some overheat ;P

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