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Old February 7th, 2009, 07:51 PM   #15601
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Old February 7th, 2009, 08:03 PM   #15602
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How much and what are they going to be doing/adding to the spire? It looks like they plan to add another 50 feet on there. Cell phone tower?
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Old February 7th, 2009, 08:09 PM   #15603
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Great updates!

After looking at the one picture of one man still working on the fountain... That makes me feeling like little devil by wanting to turn the water on just want to see that man's reaction when fountain pops up.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 12:36 AM   #15604
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I've always wondered what technical stuff is this metal structure made for, or exactly what this double height room contains
Fury, can u tell?
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Old February 8th, 2009, 01:35 AM   #15605
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... or exactly what this double height room contains
Fury, can u tell?
These are the mechanical floors. The contains air condition-, water pumping-, elevator- systems.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 05:26 AM   #15606
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Great updates!

After looking at the one picture of one man still working on the fountain... That makes me feeling like little devil by wanting to turn the water on just want to see that man's reaction when fountain pops up.
You'll be cut in half when you're hit by the upflying water fountain! Seriously. You need a lot of pressure/velocity to climb water that high. You also use water jets to cut metal...
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Old February 8th, 2009, 06:20 AM   #15607
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What it looks like

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I've always wondered what technical stuff is this metal structure made for, or exactly what this double height room contains
Fury, can u tell?
That device actually looks like a wierd piece of sculpture at Burning Man...it seems like a robot in tattered blue clothing with a plucked chicken hanging from one upstretched arm.

I am sure there are some mechanical engineer and construction specialists like Fury that do know what it is.

Curious also in Phoenix
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Old February 8th, 2009, 06:32 AM   #15608
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I've always wondered what technical stuff is this metal structure made for, or exactly what this double height room contains
Fury, can u tell?
Hi Pablo.

I've been looking at Imre's shots of this thing for some time now.

I still have no idea what it is for. When we zoom in and look around the thing is a very specialized structure. I was thinking it was for a BMU but I don't think so as it will surely be fully cladded in at some point. Next thought is something to do with an elevator but again I don't think so as there is no elevators at the point of the core where this thing is.

Anyone else have any thoughts ? Please chime in.

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Old February 8th, 2009, 06:34 AM   #15609
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Where are you saying this is happening? The worst unemployment in the US is only 13% according to several news sources. Also, where is there an estate for sale for 100k that listed for anywhere near a million? I'm calling BS on this one.

As for the causes of the current crisis, there are many, not just one or one group of people or banks. Many factors were present just as there always are when this happens to bring down the economy.

it's going to take a lot of work to get out of this one no matter who has a plan. The current stimulus plan won't cut it and we haven't seen the last of the bailouts by a long shot. Shame too cause your children will be paying this off for a very long time [we don't have any].

Also, 'the burj' will be finished...how anyone can compare it to the N. Korean hotel is beyond me....what a maroon!

Anyway, back on topic....fantastic pics guys!!!.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 07:24 AM   #15610
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WOW, so this baby is finally topped off?! cant believe it...amazing building...is "building" even the correct word anymore for a building this size?
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Old February 8th, 2009, 07:24 AM   #15611
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Hi Pablo.

I've been looking at Imre's shots of this thing for some time now.

I still have no idea what it is for. When we zoom in and look around the thing is a very specialized structure. I was thinking it was for a BMU but I don't think so as it will surely be fully cladded in at some point. Next thought is something to do with an elevator but again I don't think so as there is no elevators at the point of the core where this thing is.

Anyone else have any thoughts ? Please chime in.

looks like a BMU ,it will be fully cladded but I think will be openable.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 07:30 AM   #15612
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It looks like the metal cage pivots on its edge (the edge closer to the camera) and rotates out, swinging the frame over the building's edge (see circular connection atop the cage edge closest to camera). It could also just slide out. That might be simpler of the two suggestions. I'm assuming its to take care of the 40 floors beneath it, I can't imagine they'd need something that huge for a projection equipment for the light show, but what do I know.

Regardless, that circular connection up above the cage is a huge hint as to how the cage will be used.

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Old February 8th, 2009, 08:57 AM   #15613
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You'll be cut in half when you're hit by the upflying water fountain! Seriously. You need a lot of pressure/velocity to climb water that high. You also use water jets to cut metal...
Jesus Christ! I didn't realize it would cut the man in half with that pressure. I thought it would make him fly like a bird just like a firefighter shot you by their hose that would push you all the way against the wall. I guess it is not that type of water pressures as Burj Dubai fountain.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 10:41 AM   #15614
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It looks like the metal cage pivots on its edge (the edge closer to the camera) and rotates out, swinging the frame over the building's edge (see circular connection atop the cage edge closest to camera). It could also just slide out. That might be simpler of the two suggestions. I'm assuming its to take care of the 40 floors beneath it, I can't imagine they'd need something that huge for a projection equipment for the light show, but what do I know.

Regardless, that circular connection up above the cage is a huge hint as to how the cage will be used.

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I think you're right. It definitely looks like a BMU. But it looks really HEAVY to just swing out if you look at the whole construction of that BMU and the other steel elements.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 11:54 AM   #15615
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Piers Morgan on the 160th floor.

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Old February 8th, 2009, 12:08 PM   #15616
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I've always wondered what technical stuff is this metal structure made for, or exactly what this double height room contains
Fury, can u tell?
It was my question also few week ago in previous posts. From this angle looks like a personal elevator, a lift for those 2 floors.
BTW, that pic its in concrete part of BD
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Old February 8th, 2009, 02:17 PM   #15617
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BMU? = Building Maintenance Unit for cleaning etc. of facade?
or what´s the abbreviation?
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Old February 8th, 2009, 04:07 PM   #15618
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Where are you saying this is happening? The worst unemployment in the US is only 13% according to several news sources.
Official unemployment figures are computed using the unemployment claims.
There are many who has ran out of the unemployment benefits.
Many discouraged workers who stpped looking et. etc.
The actual figure is much higher than the official figure.
Also, there are some areas in the nation with high unemployment. For example, the rust belt and Auto factory towns.
Texas BTW is one of the places with very LOW unemployment.

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where is there an estate for sale for 100k that listed for anywhere near a million? .
As far as property values are concerned, you can look up in repossessed property lists. You will find incredible bargains. County tax sales will give you unbelieveable bargains. I have personally witnessed auctions where 3 bd rm brick houses have been auctioned off for $1.

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Also, 'the burj' will be finished...how anyone can compare it to the N. Korean hotel is beyond me....what a maroon!.
Imre says cladding has stopped. etc. If they do not have money to finish the BD, it will remain unfinished and it will be a curiosity for onlookers.
I am sure it won't happen because BD is a matter of pride. It will be finished; if not today, definitely tomorrow it will be finished.

But, don't underestimate the power of economy. Economic powers can blow away even the grandest of projects. For example, Motorolla's plans to put hundreds of low orbit satellites for digital communications. After spending Billions, the project was abandoned. Global crossing fibre optic lines project had a similar fate. The North Korean Hotel was left unfinished because of financial problems. The Mile High Tower project in Dubai was postponed by 1 year. If the financial problems continue, the whole project might be cancelled. The Largest of the palm island projects has been scaled down etc. why? because of financial problems. Heck, even the Bush plans to destroy Iran was derailed by financial problems.. The entire Soviet empire collapsed because of financial problems.

Dubai has many landmark projects. I hope they will all be finished. I still marvel at the great vision of the ruler of Dubai. He definitely achived his goal of putting Dubai on the map. The Dubailand amusement park is very important for the Tourism development. I hope they will hurry up and finish it.
I can't wait to visit Dubailand when it is completed.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 05:45 PM   #15619
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Hi all.

Thanks Imre and Paul - Yes it does look like it's for a Building Maintenance Unit. I think you hit it on the head Paul. When it rotates 180 degrees it will stick out over the edge and the parts for raising and lowering will be to the outside. Great illustration Paul. It will be interesting to see how the cladding will open.

This is a good forum for discussing topics on the BD - instead of the fricken credit crunch or terminal velocity of falling bodies ....

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Old February 8th, 2009, 06:12 PM   #15620
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The Mysterious DoHickeys

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Hi all.

Thanks Imre and Paul - Yes it does look like it's for a Building Maintenance Unit. I think you hit it on the head Paul. When it rotates 180 degrees it will stick out over the edge and the parts for raising and lowering will be to the outside. Great illustration Paul. It will be interesting to see how the cladding will open.

This is a good forum for discussing topics on the BD - instead of the fricken credit crunch or terminal velocity of falling bodies ....



Those are very BIG dohickeys and they are a lot of them at various levels of the building where they have left the cladding open...which makes me wonder if they are not somehow related to on-going construction...it does look like they can pivot out but they almost look too deep to clear the side walls and they have to be VERY heavy...I mean look at all that steel and motors and hydraulics and other STUFF associated with them.

I wondered if they had to do with the fancy schmanzy effects lighting that we know will be all over the BD...like the cladding would open up and they would extend outside and be covered in specialty geee-wiz lights and lasers - but I dont' see the electrical distribution you would expect with that.

They appear like giant bowflex exercise units and at one point I was wondering if they were for compacting construction debris and trash but that makes no sense. I went back and looked at a bunch or Imre's photos and they can clearly be seen all over. (I can't figure out how to paste them into this posting.)

If they are maintenance units I can't see at all how they would work and what they would do mechanically...there are not large spools of cable there now...where they would raise and lower window cleaning units or some other such thing - maybe there are some key pieces to these things that are just not on-site yet.

They probably will work in place and not creep around the exterior of the building up or down - they are just too massive.

Still not sure here.
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