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Old August 29th, 2009, 01:38 PM   #19921
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You need to get your eyes tested.

Doesn't matter what part of the Burj you look, you will NOT see the opposite sides of the building converging. In fact, doesn't matter where you look in the scene - every vertical line will look vertical with your eyes.

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I should also add that the idea that all wide angle lenses distort is simply not true. Sure, there are many wide angle lenses that do distort, but this lens - like others available - is rectilinear. The following image demonstrates this:



(there is a very slight downward convergence on that one because it was hand-held, and I didn't quite get the camera straight)

MODS - suggest moving posts related to this side discussion to the specific thread about the lens since it is getting rather off topic?

sorry for the late reply, I've been away for a while...

dear gerald I have nothing to test with my eyes, I'm a professional in life drawing and perspective, and I take it as an offense when someone arrogant tells me to get my eyes tested... I only talk about things so sure if I know that I'm correct... I know how to draw things... In real human perspective... In university all my technical perspective and life drawing marks were A+...

that picture you're showing me to prove that you're correct... is so funny and shows you know nothing about perspective.. hey, it's ok if you don't... but please go and check yourself from that point if you can have such a view from there...

if you look up, there is NO WAY you can see vertical lines parallel to eachother...

and your technique... to tilt the picture plane... is the reason itself why you can never have correct perspective that way. if your viewing angle is not perpendicular to the film/picture plane, it is impossible to have a true perspective.

now stop misleading people and keep taking your interesting pictures without claiming they are the real deal OK?

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Old August 29th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #19922
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To make it more clear: Further things should look smaller in perspective.... when you're looking up, 1st floor should look wider than 50th floor because you're closer to the 1st floor... but according to your super correct lens, even the floors, lets say 25 km away/higher from you, will appear on your picture with the same width... If you believe this is the way to draw perspective, then I have nothing else to discuss with you...
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Old August 29th, 2009, 02:07 PM   #19923
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[IMG]http://i30.************/2vs3u37.jpg[/IMG]
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125064323001941927.html
Why don't you to try to correct this picture with your camera? Oh yes, then people will understand that vertical lines must not appear parallel on the pictures, if you're looking up...

What you're doing is similar to "axonometric projection"

"Because with axonometric projections the scale of distant features is the same as for near features, such pictures will look distorted, as it is not how our eyes or photography work. "

more info can be found on wikipedia if you're interested to know what you really are doing.
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Old August 29th, 2009, 02:19 PM   #19924
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last one is very old
I said that its an old photo
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Old August 29th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #19925
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really awesome....
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Old August 29th, 2009, 06:21 PM   #19926
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Old August 29th, 2009, 07:48 PM   #19927
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To make it more clear: Further things should look smaller in perspective.... when you're looking up, 1st floor should look wider than 50th floor because you're closer to the 1st floor... but according to your super correct lens, even the floors, lets say 25 km away/higher from you, will appear on your picture with the same width... If you believe this is the way to draw perspective, then I have nothing else to discuss with you...
I think the lens-shifted photos are more realistic in some ways, but less realistic in others. Too off-topic for this thread. See my post here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...6&postcount=24
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Old August 29th, 2009, 07:58 PM   #19928
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Frigging amazing.... this bulding 'alone' has ushered in a new era of skyscrapers. Glad to see the world's tallest structure return to the middle east.... its been so long since the ancient Egyptians built the first one - the Great Pyramid... they'd be proud of this one!..
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Old August 29th, 2009, 08:25 PM   #19929
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Loads and loads of glass.

[/QUOTE]Anf all other towers to the left of the BD?[/QUOTE]

I meant only on the Burj



Great photo Imre
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Old August 29th, 2009, 10:48 PM   #19930
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they only have to build a few 80 to 120 storey buildings around it so as for Burj to become even more astonishing in the center of all attention.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 02:42 AM   #19931
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Frigging amazing.... this bulding 'alone' has ushered in a new era of skyscrapers. Glad to see the world's tallest structure return to the middle east.... its been so long since the ancient Egyptians built the first one - the Great Pyramid... they'd be proud of this one!..
True.. I wonder what the old Pharaohs would think if they set their eyes upon this tower??
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Old August 30th, 2009, 03:54 AM   #19932
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Great updates! The latest pics are very clear!
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Old August 30th, 2009, 04:25 AM   #19933
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Old August 30th, 2009, 07:44 AM   #19934
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what a great building... =D
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Old August 30th, 2009, 08:27 AM   #19935
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To make it more clear: Further things should look smaller in perspective.... when you're looking up, 1st floor should look wider than 50th floor because you're closer to the 1st floor... but according to your super correct lens, even the floors, lets say 25 km away/higher from you, will appear on your picture with the same width... If you believe this is the way to draw perspective, then I have nothing else to discuss with you...
Hi Gerald,
please dont go back into this sh!t again we have already had pages upon pages of crap.

In my opinion, your photos represent a far accurate reflection of the tower and surrounding area and are a joy to look at.

Back on topic I guess for a few posts.

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Old August 30th, 2009, 08:59 AM   #19936
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I am just so amazed how beautiful this place is!!!! Dubai truly rocks and this building is another proof of what the human race is capable of.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:49 PM   #19937
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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:51 PM   #19938
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Burj Dubai Fountains photos:
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Old August 30th, 2009, 03:34 PM   #19939
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So now we can wait a few years until this supertall will be sent to the 2nd place.
I wonder how long can Burj hold its titel "worlds tallest building"
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Old August 30th, 2009, 07:03 PM   #19940
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Few years? You mean few decades!
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