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Old September 15th, 2016, 02:09 AM   #241
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City and transit authority agree to run more streetcars during Oktoberfest

CINCINNATI -- The city "worked something out" in order to cover the additional $20,000 the transit authority requested to operate the streetcar during this weekend's Oktoberfest celebration at the banks, City Manager Harry Black said Wednesday[...]
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Old September 17th, 2016, 11:21 AM   #242
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4 days of paid streetcar ridership surpasses 12K trips

The first four days of paid Cincinnati streetcar ridership saw nearly 13,000 riders opt for the Queen City's newest public transit option[...]



Streetcar, sports and space leave Oktoberfest vendors optimistic


This is the first year in more than three decades that Oktoberfest Zinzinnati hasn’t be held under the watchful eyes of the figures in “Genius of Water,” the namesake landmark of Fountain Square[...]
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Old September 18th, 2016, 07:52 AM   #243
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3k passengers per day is nice score for a so short loop. I think you may need streetcars with 5 modules instead of 3 if you expand streetcar network.
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Old September 19th, 2016, 10:41 AM   #244
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Some Streetcar photos from Peter Ehrlich


CINCINNATI--1178 at 12th Street/Main OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


CINCINNATI--1175 in Lineup @ Washington Square
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


CINCINNATI--1179 at Race/12th Street IB, pullout for kickoff ceremony
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


CINCINNATI--1177 at 12th Street/Walnut OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


CINCINNATI--1179 appr Walnut/5th Street IB
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CINCINNATI--1178 at Walnut/2nd Street IB
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CINCINNATI--1177 lv Findlay Market OB
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CINCINNATI--1176 lv Banks OB
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Old September 28th, 2016, 08:49 PM   #245
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After two weeks of regular operations, it's time to make the first review of the streetcar ridership: Cincinnati Bell Connector carried 70˙292 passengers, which bring the total (with the first three free-of-charge days) over 120 kpass. It's a really good achievement, taking also in account that:
- actual numbers passed almost always the estimate, set at 3˙000 boardings on weekdays, 1˙500 on Saturday and near 1000 on Sunday;
- projecting such stats year-around “as they are”, the system ranks fourth¹ among US streetcar lines/networks in term of average daily trips per length unit²;
but turning to the details we can see both light and shade into these data.





Cincinnati modern streetcar line ridership chart, drawn according to data released by SORTA (Southwest Ohio Regional Transit Authority)
upt stands for unlinked passenger trips - the dark red line shows the estimate boarding



Following a spectacular opening and a quite satisfactory start of paid service, in the first weekend ridership rose by leaps and bounds, boasted by the occurrence of Oktoberfest Zinzinnati; however a swallow doesn't make a summer, and in the second week things went less well: on weekend some major downtown events ensured a fairly decent result (and above project forecasts by far), but Monday to Thursday boardings show a drop that leads to a weekday average over the estimate of only 3,5%, compared to the 32% during the previous week.
They have to do something ASAP in order to fix problems that arose, first and foremost the erratic headway with variable schedule - with the related matter of according to trams some degree of priority at traffic lights -, or the disappointment will surface clearer and the drop will worsen. Given the wonderful potential shown in these few days, it'd be a true shame!

Here, some articles on this subject:
from Cincinnati Enquirer (19 September 2016)
from Cincinnati Businnes Courier (23 September 2016)
from WCPO Cincinnati (27 September 2016)
from Cincinnati Enquirer (28 September 2016)


¹ 2˙789 pass/day per mile, after both San Francisco cable cars and heritage E/F lines (~4˙200 pass/day per mile each) and Kansas City (3˙089 pass/day per mile);
² of equivalent double-track alignment.
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Old September 29th, 2016, 03:21 PM   #246
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The ridership has been great in the first two weeks, but we need to be careful not to hyper-analyze the ridership until we have a few months worth of data. It's looking like weekday ridership will stabilize somewhere in the 2,500-3,000 per day range, and weekends will be significantly higher since there's some special event (Bengals or Reds game, convention, concert, festival, etc.) nearly every weekend. It will likely dip a bit in the winter and recover in the spring.

The traffic signal issue will get sorted out in early 2017. The city will be installing a new control system that will allow it to tweak the traffic lights downtown to optimize the flow of traffic. The challenge is that streetcars and buses run on north/south streets downtown while most cars drive east/west to get to and from highway ramps. Traffic planners are starting to realize that it makes sense to give a streetcar with 100 riders priority over a car with 2 passengers. So the north/south streets will get more continuous green lights once the new timing plan is completed.
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Old October 12th, 2016, 10:52 PM   #247
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City Council wants priority for streetcar, buses at downtown stoplights
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As it works to retime the city’s downtown traffic signals, Cincinnati’s transportation department also should consider giving the Cincinnati Bell Connector streetcar and certain metro buses priority when they reach a stoplight, Cincinnati City Council’s transportation committee voted on Tuesday.
Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnat...-buses-at.html
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Old October 13th, 2016, 05:29 AM   #248
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Source: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnat...-buses-at.html
They should have considered that when they were designing the system. They could have incorporated design and operational elements that would have really made a difference.
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Old October 14th, 2016, 12:32 AM   #249
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In a perfect world...yes. However, the project has faced opposition from a number of politicians over the last 8 years, and it was a massive struggle just to get it built at all. The traffic engineers previously thought, "We're not going to give it signal priority because no one will ride it." Now that it's up and running, and it's continuing to exceed the ridership estimates, the traffic engineers and planners are taking it more seriously.

Baby steps here...
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Old November 16th, 2016, 05:21 PM   #250
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"​Streetcar ridership will hit 250,000 today but daily average dropping"

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Old November 16th, 2016, 09:50 PM   #251
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They made it slow (no priority and constant traffic lights) and inconvenient (ticket machines). Whoda thunk.
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Old November 17th, 2016, 04:56 AM   #252
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They made it slow (no priority and constant traffic lights) and inconvenient (ticket machines). Whoda thunk.
Luckily those don't seem like super serious fixes.
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They made it slow (no priority and constant traffic lights) and inconvenient (ticket machines). Whoda thunk.
On my local part of a Skyscrapercity there was a discussion about small streetcar networks. The point was, that some networks are just too small to be attractive and the only way to get ridership up is to expand network. Priority is important, but streetcar needs to be next to places where people life and places where people go. Or at least a big Park and Ride.
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You don't need a big streetcar network. All you need is getting a long enough and usefully located streetcar corridor. A single one is enough. The only pre-condition is that this streetcar line is completely and efficiently integrated in the greater public transportation network.

Maybe the problem in many US American cities is that people think of streetcars as something separate, with separate ticketing and fare system etc. Get an integrated system, one big core zone, one single ticket, for everything that looks like a train or a bus, connect everything well enough and people will use it without much thought if its rail or bus. Ok, that sounds easier than it is but it really makes sense.

That said, the key to a successful line is of course that it is connecting places which people want to go to, both ways, not just one way. Also priority for streetcars makes them much more attractive.
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Single one is indeed enough (sometimes), but it has to be long enough.
Integrated system is very important. The best in the world are fare systems with one ticket for everything, a lot of P&R, feederbuses etc, like Berlin, Vienna, Warsaw.
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"Accidents follow streetcar's debut"

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...ebut/94074024/
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Old November 28th, 2016, 09:37 PM   #257
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"Accidents follow streetcar's debut"

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...ebut/94074024/
These articles are always annoying for transit lovers

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If a teenager’s first year of driving went as well as the Cincinnati streetcar’s first year, mom and dad might take away the keys.
"Boy! these street cars sure run into stuff a lot! lol..."

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Records show the number of mishaps here isn’t exceptional compared to other cities and none of the accidents in Cincinnati was found to be the fault of streetcar drivers.
Ah... so its really other drivers that keep crashing into the streetcars... Not how your opening made it sound mister journalist man...
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"Accidents follow streetcar's debut"

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...ebut/94074024/
Just the usual......"thinning of the gene pool"
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Typical streetcar-related "journalism" from the Enquirer. There have been no serious accidents, and the only minor ones were caused by bad drivers choosing to veer into the streetcar's lane or make an illegal turn in front of it.

Over a thousand people die in car accidents in the state of Ohio each year, and the Enquirer wastes their time writing an article every time a bad driver has a fender bender with the streetcar.
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"METRO TO ROLL OUT NEW COMMUTER-STYLE BUSES"

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