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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:11 PM   #21
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:19 AM   #22
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What's with the 2010 repair work? Are they planning a reconstruction?

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Old November 18th, 2010, 10:16 AM   #23
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The 2010 repairs were pretty much the first major repairs since the tunnel was built in the early 1920's. They basically just went in and patched concrete that had cracked due to the freeze/thaw cycle and replaced a few of the major expansion joints. It was about a 10 week project. They sawed through the roof at two points and were able to lower equipment and materials through these gaps.

The end result is a bit paradoxical -- although the tunnel won't need major work again for decades, all the concrete patching and spray painting the crews did has made the tunnels look rougher. Also, they left all kinds of wood falsework and other stuff in the station areas and throughout the tunnel.

They also sealed off the tunnel even better than it had been since they replaced the portal doors back around 2005. From about 2002-2004 someone had blow torched through the old doors and it was effortless to get in. Now it's pretty much impossible to get in without a blow torch.
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Old November 20th, 2010, 03:46 PM   #24
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I read somewhere that the tunnels could be used for the streetcar system the city is currently considering. Would these tunnels be able to be used for a future mass transit line?
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Old November 21st, 2010, 12:46 AM   #25
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I read somewhere that the tunnels could be used for the streetcar system the city is currently considering. Would these tunnels be able to be used for a future mass transit line?
If the Cincinnati ever gets back on the ball in planning a full-blown LRT line, it would most certainly include the Tunnel under the Downtown within the alignment.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 08:28 PM   #26
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There aren't currently any plans for the new streetcars to use the tunnel. The planned streetcar line will be built on a street immediately parallel to the subway for a distance of about 3/4 mile.

In the book I talk about how the 2002 "Metro Moves" light rail network was to have used the tunnel. This line actually would have had the highest average speed in part because of the tunnel and in part because it was going to be built in the middle of an expressway (I-74) with just two stations in an 8 mile stretch.

Cincinnati faces a real dilemma in serving its distant suburbs with rail because the city's downtown is not in the center of the metro region. This means to serve the most distant suburbs, stations will have to be omitted from areas closer to the city or else the travel times will be insanely long.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 08:58 PM   #27
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Looks like a cool book. Is it going to be available for Nook? Methinks it would really show well with the new Nook Color if you were planing on making it available in e form.

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Old November 23rd, 2010, 05:13 AM   #28
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I don't know if it's going to be available on Kindle or any of those other formats. I don't have any control over that.

The book does have a center color photo section that unfortunately doesn't appear in Amazon's "look inside". I put a lot of know-how and four or five days into taking those photos. I had to do everything with battery-powered lighting since there are no power hook-ups down there and running a generator down there isn't safe. Also, the sound is so boomy that it's virtually impossible to understand what an assistant is saying once they're more than 100 feet away and the drone of a generator would have made it even worse.

Also, I have some enemies in town and they've started bad-mouthing the book online. Someone posted a ridiculous "review" on Amazon saying the book was poorly written and poorly researched. I suspect it was written by the same a-holes who spend their free time fighting any and all rail revivals in Cincinnati. I was ambushed at a book-selling event two weeks ago by one of their goons, who came in and made a scene. These guys are nuts, and in this city they've convinced the media that *we* are the nutty ones.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:33 AM   #29
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In April, the design of the Cincinnati streetcar was chosen:


source: http://www.local12.com/news/local/st...iBfiq3FwQ.cspx


source: http://cincystreetcar.wordpress.com/...tcar-vehicles/

Library streetcar stop:


source: http://cincystreetcar.wordpress.com/...tation-design/

The streetcar will be put into service in 2014.


source: http://www.protransit.com/Maps/

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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:41 AM   #30
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Streetcar construction

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Old May 5th, 2012, 12:45 AM   #31
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more streetcar models


source: http://andobayanka.wordpress.com/201...uction-update/
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 02:31 AM   #33
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Just found this thread.

Utility relocation has been ongoing since February, and the city is in talks with the contractor to begin track construction. Construction has also begun on the city's 5 streetcars being built by CAF.

Here's the rendering of the streetcar maintenance shed:


Source: http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/streetc...on-contractor/
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 04:15 AM   #34
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Are they ever going to do something with the old subway?
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Old July 5th, 2013, 10:45 PM   #35
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Are they ever going to do something with the old subway?
Once the county finally approves light rail, I would guess that the tunnels will be used for the first line.
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Old July 5th, 2013, 11:54 PM   #36
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Is there any chance to estimate the time frame for the realization of such a starter light rail line?

Another 50 years? jk
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Old July 6th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #37
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Is there any chance to estimate the time frame for the realization of such a starter light rail line?

Another 50 years? jk
The mayor talked about it a little bit last year during a presentation on the streetcar, but there are no solid plans for light rail as of right now.

However, we have several great rights of way already, and another is being buillt during the current I-75 reconstruction. The city is going to start right of way acquisition on one of these corridors this year. Also, Cincinnati could use the existing tunnels as the local match to leverage federal funding for a light rail line. I would say it's only a matter of time before we get a serious light rail proposal.
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Old July 16th, 2013, 02:01 AM   #38
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The streetcar construction contract was signed today. Passenger service in September 2016:

http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/streetc...ntract-signed/
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Old July 18th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #39
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September 15, 2016 to be exact:

http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/b...streetcar.html

Everyone, mark your calendars!
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Old July 29th, 2013, 01:16 PM   #40
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Apparenly some sections of old Cincy streetcar track still survive, what is the (typical) condition of these tracks? What was the condition of the tracks when the previous system closed?
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