Seattle Forumers Prop 1 Tally

[taiwanesedrummer36]

Hey! Who else voted "no" (and it wasn't me)?

[Backstrom]

Yeah, this is accurate enough... for a forum of skyscraper/infrastructure nerds.

Does anyone know how the figures are actually expected to turn out?

[Northsider]

I'd vote yes if I could.

[Bond James Bond]

Originally Posted by Backstrom

Yeah, this is accurate enough... for a forum of skyscraper/infrastructure nerds.

Does anyone know how the figures are actually expected to turn out?

The latest poll showed 53% in favor.

[taiwanesedrummer36]

Originally Posted by Bond James Bond

The latest poll showed 53% in favor.

In the Seattle Times today, the front page:

FOR PROPOSITION 1:
- Governor Christine Gregoire
- U.S. Senator Patty Murray
- Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels
- King County Councilmember Reagan Dunn
- State Senator Ed Murray
- Pierce County Executive John Ladenburg
- State Senator Margarita Prentice
- State Representative Helen Sommers
- Former WA Governor Dan Evans
- Seattle City Councilmember Jan Drago
- Everett Mayor Ray Stephanson (i'm shocked)
- Washington Conservative Voters
- Bicycle Alliance of Washington
- Associated General Contractors of Washington
- Boeing
- Microsoft
- Puget Sound Energy
- Washington Mutual

AGAINST PROPOSITION 1:
- Seattle City Councilmember President Nick Licata
- Redmond Mayor Rosemarie Ives
- Developer Kemper Freeman
- Sierra Club Cascade Chapter chairman Michael O'Brien
- Former state senator Jim Horn
- King County Executive Ron Sims
- Sierra Club Cascade Chapter
- Cascade Bicycle Club
- Conservation Northwest

NEUTRAL towards PROPOSITION 1:
- Seattle City Councilmember Peter Steinbrueck
- Kirkland City Council
- Redmond City Council
- Kent City Council
- Shoreline City Council
- 46th District Democrats
- 36th District Democrats
- 43rd District Democrats

[citruspastels]

Just sent votes in today! +3 from this house.

[UrbanBen]

Originally Posted by citruspastels

Just sent votes in today! +3 from this house.

Two more in the mail from my house!

[blackc5]

I originally posted undecided, but have made up my mind and will be voting yes. It is a tough call - I am generally anti-new tax since goverment so rarely spends money efficiently, but at the same time believe that this infrastructure, especially the light rail, is necessary for the long-term growth and health of the region.

[UrbanBen]

Originally Posted by blackc5

I originally posted undecided, but have made up my mind and will be voting yes. It is a tough call - I am generally anti-new tax since goverment so rarely spends money efficiently, but at the same time believe that this infrastructure, especially the light rail, is necessary for the long-term growth and health of the region.

Hell yes it is. It's a lot more efficient than private transportation infrastructure could be today.

[Bond James Bond]

Originally Posted by blackc5

I originally posted undecided, but have made up my mind and will be voting yes. It is a tough call - I am generally anti-new tax since goverment so rarely spends money efficiently, but at the same time believe that this infrastructure, especially the light rail, is necessary for the long-term growth and health of the region.

Yes! We have a convert!

[mhays]

Sound Transit's bond rating upgrade and general great record bidding work on-budget (aside from the same problems even private developers are going through now) are good signs about their cost-efficiency and oversight.

[blackc5]

Originally Posted by Bond James Bond

Yes! We have a convert!

Lol, yes

[USAPatriot]

I was told before on this forum to keep politics out of the threads. Why do we got this thread? Just because it's a certain view you want is it okay to have politics here now? Was it only wrong before because of the views I had compared to others?

I don't want to start an arguement or anything, I'm just pointing it out, and yes, it is an important issue, that I don't want to have to pay over 100 dollars per person for, or all the other tax increases they will do. So... I am leaning to say no, but I want the tram, so I'd say yes, but I still want to say no for many more reasons.

So I'll wait till election night. As of now, I'd say no.

This is my first time being able to vote too!

[mhays]

This isn't politics. It's about how our city will grow and function.

I hope voters think more about the greater good than about a small difference in their own pocketbooks.

(In fact, anyone who can ditch the car and start taking transit will see vast improvements in their wallet!)

[taiwanesedrummer36]

Actually politics is partly involved. Several key politicians and big-name companies have gotten involved in this verocious battle and turned this into the biggest deal in Seattle since.....uh....I don't have a clue.

Don't forget that Sound Transit or some other agency is mailing billions of Roads and Transit phamlets to voters all over Puget Sound. So, I don't know whether I would classify Proposition 1 as "political" or "city growth and functions".

Can't wait till Election Day!

[UrbanBen]

Originally Posted by USAPatriot

I was told before on this forum to keep politics out of the threads. Why do we got this thread? Just because it's a certain view you want is it okay to have politics here now? Was it only wrong before because of the views I had compared to others?

I don't want to start an arguement or anything, I'm just pointing it out, and yes, it is an important issue, that I don't want to have to pay over 100 dollars per person for, or all the other tax increases they will do. So... I am leaning to say no, but I want the tram, so I'd say yes, but I still want to say no for many more reasons.

So I'll wait till election night. As of now, I'd say no.

This is my first time being able to vote too!

If it's your first time being able to vote, I'd abstain. You haven't yet learned that you get what you pay for - and you'll regret that no vote.

[taiwanesedrummer36]

Originally Posted by UrbanBen

If it's your first time being able to vote, I'd abstain. You haven't yet learned that you get what you pay for - and you'll regret that no vote.

Don't be a snob. He has the right to vote on this issue or not, it's in the law. And how can you just randomly assume USAPatriot can't make important decisions just because it's his/her first time voting? Do you actually know him/her? Or maybe you don't want USAPatriot to vote because of the "NO". Either way, this is America where you have the right to voice your opinions by voting "YES" or "NO" (or undecided).

[NW Mike]

So far with 85% for yes tells me this is a good example of the true election. I think the Election will be closer to 60/40 but none the less we need this package to pass.USAPatriot vote for what ever makes the most sense, its your right. Enjoy your first vote. But first read all the arguments.
Check out:
www.yesonroadsandtransit.org
www.noprop1.org
www.horsesass.org

[mhays]

I think it'll be 51%, and it's not clear which way.

[citruspastels]

my guess is 53% for yes. let's have a contest to see who is closest! the winner gets some posts telling them how awesome they are.