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Old March 17th, 2008, 03:04 AM   #141
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outstanding piece of architecture!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 03:44 PM   #142
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they build something different from the others..it's amazing modern museum
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Old March 18th, 2008, 05:13 PM   #143
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interior: wonderful!

exterior: horrible!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 05:24 PM   #144
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Why is it horrible Kuvvaci?
Does it not generously leave the glorious sight of the Parthenon untouched with its modest architecture?
Imagine if it were a loud building...would detract from the vibe of the area.

I think its just stunning, inside and out!
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Old March 18th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #145
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What you expect from him????
Maybe with few tourlou tourlou oriental anatolian decoration he could find it better

The museum exterior is amazing....you can realize it if you pass outside,and see the reflections of the Acropolis monuments on its glasses and its quality minimalistic design.....
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Old March 18th, 2008, 11:26 PM   #146
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What you expect from him????
Maybe with few tourlou tourlou oriental anatolian decoration he could find it better

The museum exterior is amazing....you can realize it if you pass outside,and see the reflections of the Acropolis monuments on its glasses and its quality minimalistic design.....
Why are you attacking him?
This is a open forum sweety and people has rights to say their opinions
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Old March 19th, 2008, 01:03 AM   #147
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Why are you attacking him?
This is a open forum sweety and people has rights to say their opinions
And why you protect him???
are you his lawyer???
and by the way is also MY opinion
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Old March 19th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #148
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Greece push for return of Marbles

Changes in museum policies and an increase in instances of cooperation between different countries for the repatriation of looted artifacts could pave the way for the return of the Parthenon Marbles, Culture Minister Michalis Liapis told an international conference in Athens yesterday.

“More and more museums are adopting tighter ethics codes and governments are promoting cooperation, so the ideal momentum is being created for clear solutions,” Liapis told the UNESCO event at the New Acropolis Museum.

Museum officials and archaeologists gave several examples of repatriated artifacts, such as the Obelisk of Axum, returned to Ethiopia from Rome in 2005. Experts also remarked upon the increase of works being smuggled out of war zones.

Christiane Tytgat, former curator at the Royal Museums of Art and History in Brussels and director of the Netherlands Institute in Athens, said the Parthenon Marbles, currently in the British Museum, should be sent back too.“I support their return unreservedly... this is where they belong,” Tytgat said.
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Old March 19th, 2008, 02:53 AM   #149
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What you expect from him????
Maybe with few tourlou tourlou oriental anatolian decoration he could find it better

The museum exterior is amazing....you can realize it if you pass outside,and see the reflections of the Acropolis monuments on its glasses and its quality minimalistic design.....
I would advise you to mind your language and to respect other peoples opinions. If he thinks the museum does not look nice from the outside then this is something you have to respect or try to convince him of the opposite.

Having an opinion is not the same with offending someone for his opinion.

And just for the record "tourlou" is delicious
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με πληρωμή την πλήρη υποταγή του εξασφαλισθέντος ή την πνευματική και ψυχική διάπλαση ενός ελεύθερου ανθρώπου, με τεχνική αναθεώρησης κι ονειρικής δομής,
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Old March 19th, 2008, 03:50 AM   #150
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I would advise you to mind your language and to respect other peoples opinions. If he thinks the museum does not look nice from the outside then this is something you have to respect or try to convince him of the opposite.

Having an opinion is not the same with offending someone for his opinion.

And just for the record "tourlou" is delicious
We agree Savas....Tourlou is great...and the critisism is repsectfull..but words like "horible" ,posted without any conviction ,just to explode a thread..NOT...
and my opinion is that his anatolian taste,finds a minimalistic architecture profile to horible for the oriental,collourfll tastes of his profile
at last i havent made this thread to open a fight....i would like to see posts regarding the museum...if ayone else have problem with me he can PM me..other wise is just a provocation
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Old March 19th, 2008, 04:08 AM   #151
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The "unique" technology of New Acropolis Museum glass


Glass in the New Acropolis Museum
Glass is a key part of the design of the museum, being an ephemeral counterpoint to the massive masonry frame.
It is used not only for it’s traditional purpose to view out or let light in as in the windows in our home, but it is also used structurally. The glass supports itself and is not put in frames. That would have compromised the purity of the overall design composition. The tactile qualities of luminosity and reflectivity in the material are therefore given full expression.
Traditional glass has a familiar green tint. For the museum, a special purified glass with low levels of iron in the composition is used to minimise colour change in the natural light coming in to the galleries.
Parthenon Gallery
The walls of the Parthenon Gallery are all glass, using a structural double skin design. This double skin consists of the external wall of glass, visible from the exterior of the Museum, and a second skin of glass situated in the interior of the gallery. A space of 70 centimetres separates the two walls.
This interior layer does not reach down to the ground level of the interior space but is rather suspended approximately 2,25meters above the ground. As the internal skin is on the upper levels only, it minimizes any barrier to the view at viewer’s height.
The outer layer of this double skin design is in double glazing with printed ceramic dots to increase shading and reduce glare. The glass also has a high performance coating to protect against infrared radiation, which humans feel as heat. This coating prevents over heating inside the Gallery.
The system includes fabric shading screens for the most exposed South, East and West elevations.
The double skin functions much like a glass chimney or air corridor and is part of the air cooling system of the Museum. Cool air is introduced at the bottom edge of the glass all the way round the Gallery facade. The air that enters at the bottom of the ‘glass chimney’ heats up by solar radiation, either directly from the sun or indirectly by absorption in the glass or on
the shading screens. This heating up causes the air to rise naturally up to the top of the void where it is mechanically extracted. This flow of air limits the rise in temperature of the internal skin to around 23°C when the external temperature is about 40°C. The north elevation, with the view to the Parthenon itself, is not obstructed with shading.
The two glass skins are suspended from the roof edge. They are stiffened to resist wind pressure by glass fins that are perpendicular to the glass skins and rigidly fixed to the roof steel structure above. The whole system complies with European Design Codes standard pressures of up to 150kg/m² but was tested to 220kg/m2 for additional safety.
The weight of the glass itself, about 2,5 tons for each vertical row of glass panels, is supported on small stainless steel rods and bracket fittings placed in the joints. Even if the fins were to break, these fittings, together with the suspension rods provide a fail-safe security to limit the risk of falling glass.
Archaic Gallery Facades
The archaic gallery facades are single skin in double glazing and they are also designed to provide protection against excessive rise in temperature due to sunlight. At the same time they provide optimal natural light to view the exhibits.
The glass fins are again used on this façade, but rather than being placed to the interior, they are placed to the exterior, perpendicular to the glass façade. They are in effect turned ‘inside out’.
The fins span up to 9m for the double height spaces. This exceeds maximum sizes for the special heat treated safety glass used. Therefore two panes of glass are necessary to achieve this span and the fins are joined with a clamp splice at mid height.
Just as for the Parthenon gallery, the glass system is designed to resist earthquakes as well as maximum wind forces.
As far as protection against sun is concerned, these facades benefit from the large overhangs of the floors above that provide shade against the worst direct summer mid-day sun. However, in the early morning or evening, when the sun is lower in the sky at these times of the day, direct light rays could penetrate into the space.
To provide glare protection, the ‘inside-out’ fins are also coated with ceramic dot paint to provide shading against this lower angle sun.
Glass Floors
Throughout the museum, glass floors are extensively used to allow glimpses of the archaeological remains in the lower levels of the Museum. They are also used for small exhibition windows to showcases beneath the floor.
Multilayer slabs of laminated glass are used, combining impact resistant tempered glass with a textured anti-slip surface. The glass slabs rest on soft seals made from neoprene, the material used in wetsuits and laptop cases. These provide a soft and self-balancing bearing surface around the edges.
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 11:36 AM   #152
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Some new photos of the museum,that i believe will make sense,for the memorable interiors,and the first pics from the cafe...
Huge stairs

Cafe-restaurant views

Views of the Lycabetous
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Old March 24th, 2008, 03:02 PM   #153
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We agree Savas....Tourlou is great...and the critisism is repsectfull..but words like "horible" ,posted without any conviction ,just to explode a thread..NOT...
and my opinion is that his anatolian taste,finds a minimalistic architecture profile to horible for the oriental,collourfll tastes of his profile
at last i havent made this thread to open a fight....i would like to see posts regarding the museum...if ayone else have problem with me he can PM me..other wise is just a provocation
So it's ok for you to generalise "without any conviction" (seeing as you don't even know what Kuvvaci's personal tastes are), but for him to do so is not ok? You completely disregarded the fact that he said the interior is wonderful! So if anyone's trying to provoke, it's you. Especially when you say baseless crap about racial stereotyping with regards to his "anatolian taste".

To keep on topic... the museum is looking fantastic and will definitely be a landmark for Athens. Hopefully there will be more stuff like this in the future!
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Old March 24th, 2008, 04:05 PM   #154
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There will. One of worlds best architects, Piano Renzo, has been choose by the Stavros Niarchos Foundation to design the New Opera House of Greece, the New Greek National Library and a Cultural Center in the waterfront of Athens, Faliron Delta. Area of 200.000 square meters, budget of 300 million euros ($442 million). Renderings are not released but this will happen in the next 2 months.
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Old March 25th, 2008, 01:49 AM   #155
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It is a museum!!
It's amazing!! *___*
Really good job
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Old March 25th, 2008, 08:03 PM   #156
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New pictures:

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And a great video about the construction of the museum:



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Old March 26th, 2008, 01:32 PM   #157
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have to go for a visit
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Two new pictures from flickr:

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If there are so many people that visit the museum, without exhibits inside, imagine what will happen when it will opperate with the exhibits inside!!!
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Old April 5th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #159
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I like the architecture...but I don't think the ancient art is fitting in at all. The monumental architecture is overpowering everything on exhibition there. Seems as if the architect wanted to built himself a monument, rather than giving those ancient treasures a fitting home, which should be the main attraction.

Sad thing is, the British Museum will NEVER give the marbels back to Greece. Without them the British Museum wouldn't be what it used to be. And I can understand that too... If the Altar of Pergamon in Berlin would return to Turkey the loss couldn't be bigger too.
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interior: wonderful!

exterior: horrible!
Well I think that the outer façade of the museum is very well done, it mixes with his environment and the building it resembles, they did a very good job about it, its better than having done a building that just copies the classical style and make a new one like the thousands that there already are around the world.
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