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Old October 12th, 2009, 11:48 PM   #441
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Old October 13th, 2009, 12:21 PM   #442
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If this is really dead, why is it even part of this thread then?! I'm so disappointed! I thought something came up and it was back on track...
Don't we have a 'dead project' section somewhere?
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 03:53 PM   #443
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The South Street Seaport is a historic area in the New York City borough of Manhattan, located where Fulton Street meets the East River, and adjacent to the ...
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 05:11 PM   #444
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If this is really dead, why is it even part of this thread then?! I'm so disappointed! I thought something came up and it was back on track...
Don't we have a 'dead project' section somewhere?
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Old October 14th, 2010, 01:59 AM   #445
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Calatrava project is inspired by Frank LLoyd Wright's pole lamps at Midway Gardens, Chicago.

(Already demolished, but you can find many books with them...)
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 03:54 AM   #446
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GGP exiting bankruptcy: Will South Street Seaport plans move forward?

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Old October 22nd, 2010, 04:46 AM   #447
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Thanks a lot for that link mate. I'm still secretly hoping for the Calatrava tower to be brought back to life... Unlikely, I know.

(PS: you have the second coolest avatar available on here! Metropolis edges it just slightly though :P)
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 04:58 AM   #448
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Thanks a lot for that link mate. I'm still secretly hope for the Calatrava tower to be brought back to life... Unlikely, I know.

(PS: you have the second coolest avatar available on here! Metropolis edges it just slightly though :P)
Thanks! ...but I'm not sure if the Calatrava proposal will ever see the light of day again. The General Growth Properties proposal was for a tower at South Street Seaport which would have anchored a large hotel/retail/entertainment complex at pier 17 possibly involving the transfer of air rights from 80 South St. (correct me if I'm wrong). The key stumbling block for the Calatrava design was being able to secure financing for a development that requires units selling for upwards of $30 million each. In Lower Manhattan. During a global economic slowdown. Pre-sales were poor and the concept was scrapped in favor of a design with more conventional floorplates and lower costs. But we'll see what happens, nothing would be better than to see someone figure out how to revive that Calatrava tower!
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:15 AM   #449
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Again, I couldn't agree more! But you've said it right there: such a design in Lower Manhattan... Not a chance. I just don't see it happening, with or without a credit crunch for that matter. On the Upper East Side they could pull it off I guess.
Anyway... Glad to see someone else (a lot wealthier) than just you and me seem to have some interest for that lot
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 08:11 PM   #450
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I am confuse, is it looks good after finish. i don't thing so. nice design but i thinks it looks good only in paper not real. let's see. no cool design unique design, i think it's not like corporate building. over all good design and planning.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #451
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The site at 80 South Street could see some activity down the line. Curbed reported that there are now plans to construct a 300,000-square-foot, 780-foot mixed-use tower at this site, with a mix of hotel, residential and community space.

Cord Meyer Development owns the plot, and according to Curbed, is examining the property’s air rights to see if half of the proposal’s square footage can be dedicated for residential use. Morali Architects is behind the design, which will have some green elements, including hanging gardens flowing down the façade, which will be sheathed by photovoltaic glass.

The property is where Santiago Calatrava had planned his staggered cube tower in the days before the recession.

However, the plan has not yet started breaking ground — approvals are needed first from the City Planning Commission and the Department of Buildings. The approval pipeline could take as long as a year.

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Something's afoot at 80 South Street, defunct home of Santiago Calatrava's Tower o' Penthouses, which died a long drawn-out death. Plans are in the works to build a 300,000-square-foot, 780-foot-tall tower on the site that could be a mix of hotel, residential, and community space. Cord Meyer Development is the owner of the property and currently working out the specifics of air rights it has purchased over the years, and whether one half (150K square feet) of residential building will be allowed. Morali Architects has been posting renderings on its Facebook page along with notes on a planned mixed-use tower for the address.


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Early thoughts on what's in store with the new designs: a high-tech garage on the first three levels to equal the height of the elevated FDR drive; above that a small museum highlighting the history of FiDi and the Seaport; and a restaurant and spa befitting a 200-room boutique hotel. Other eco-conscious elements of the building include cascading gardens throughout the segmented facade, a heat pump to be installed when caissons are sunk as part of the foundation, and a building skin made of photovoltaic glass.

Architect Anthony Morali recently went to Mexico to investigate the use of open hanging gardens in architecture. And although the present renderings may not fully reflect it, Morali intends to design a segmented, green-walled building, with a facade that will open every 15 stories or so in a cascading effect. Morali's tower would be a vertical counterpart to the horizontal green roof hotel and condos being developed across the East River by Toll Bros. and Starwood at Brooklyn Bridge Park.

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Old July 10th, 2012, 09:11 PM   #452
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This design looks like crap
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Yeah it's weird.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 12:02 AM   #454
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Old July 11th, 2012, 05:56 AM   #455
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I just hope it doesn't stick out too much.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 06:20 AM   #456
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I feel like I may be in the minority by actually kinda liking the proposal. It reminds me a bit of a edited version of Paul Rudolph's proposal for housing over the ill-fated Lower Manhattan expressway:


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Old July 11th, 2012, 06:23 AM   #457
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Man, what a brutal design downgrade.

Really disappointing, this tower would have been an icon and helped Beekman to completely redefine the eastern side of lower Manhattan.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 07:53 AM   #458
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Not no but hell no. The design is awful.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 06:50 AM   #459
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Looks OK in my opinion
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Old July 12th, 2012, 07:03 AM   #460
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Lower Manhattan is for classical architecture. I wouldn't want this monstrosity in Midtown even.
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