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Old April 5th, 2015, 11:42 PM   #781
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Old April 6th, 2015, 12:34 AM   #782
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I hope for something better than that to be honest.
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Old April 6th, 2015, 01:25 AM   #783
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I hope for something better than that to be honest.
Me too, NYSE tower looks like an over tapered 1WTC on steroids.

It's okay I guess but not what I think would be best here.
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Old April 6th, 2015, 02:43 AM   #784
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I have mixed feelings for NYSE. While it could be great having a 1WTC's big brother on the opposite side of Downtown, and giving some coruscant-ish feel to it, it could look really awkward tho (not to mention the proportions on NYSE are not as harmonic as 1WTC, but thats talking from my pov)
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Old April 6th, 2015, 08:13 AM   #785
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I wouldn't mind the NYSE Tower. It was one of my favorite proposals. I think it would look great anywhere in Manhattan. I think that proposal had over 3msf though.
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Me too, NYSE tower looks like an over tapered 1WTC on steroids.

It's okay I guess but not what I think would be best here.
Spot on description!
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Old April 7th, 2015, 10:55 PM   #787
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Don't get me wrong. I luv 1 WTC and very proud of it, but I like the NYSE design a tad better.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 11:57 PM   #788
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I agree. I personally think the NYSE Tower looks far better than the Freedom Tower. The NYSE Tower looks very tall, yet also very strong and massive. The Freedom Tower looks kinda fat if you compare these two
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Old April 8th, 2015, 06:04 PM   #789
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I agree. I personally think the NYSE Tower looks far better than the Freedom Tower. The NYSE Tower looks very tall, yet also very strong and massive. The Freedom Tower looks kinda fat if you compare these two
I would say 1WTC looks pretty strong and massive, I also like that it's not tapered on all sides.

NYSE tower would look good in Chicago at the old spire site perhaps.
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I agree, the Freedom Tower looks strong and massive, but the NYSE Tower looks even stronger and more massive

Btw, I too would love if such a building would be built at the Spire site in Chicago
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The NYSE Tower would look good ANYWHERE in the world!
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Old April 8th, 2015, 07:22 PM   #792
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I would say 1WTC looks pretty strong and massive, I also like that it's not tapered on all sides.

NYSE tower would look good in Chicago at the old spire site perhaps.
This is the part I enjoy about 1WTC over this tower. It has the silhouette of the original north tower when viewed at a certain angle. This is an ok building but I wouldn't want it in place of the 1WTC we have now.
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Howard Hughes is looking for a partner or completely sell the site assemblage.




Howard Hughes to Market 80 South Street
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The Howard Hughes Corporation, the real estate development company behind the South Street Seaport’s revitalization, has completed a site assemblage for 80 South Street, Commercial Observer has learned.

According to a spokeswoman for the company, Howard Hughes is marketing for sale or joint venture its interest in 80 South Street, the 8,128-square-foot site that sits on the corner of Fletcher Street by the East River. Last January, Real Estate Weekly reported that Howard Hughes paid $100 million for the site.

Howard Hughes believes a potential sale of this site will accelerate development in the area and enable the company to refocus resources across its existing Seaport footprint—including Pier 17 and the mixed-use development project.

“The Howard Hughes Corporation is deeply invested in the Seaport and committed to its success over the long term,” said David Weinreb, the chief executive officer of Howard Hughes, in prepared remarks. “By seeking a partner for this important site we hope to accelerate development in the area and focus all of our effort on the core Seaport District.”

The company noted that the potential sale or entrance into a joint venture of 80 South Street will not impact the proposed mixed-use building on the New Market site. This site is also independent from the current Seaport redevelopment proposal.

CBRE, which has been hired to market the 80 South Street site, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The property at 80 South Street has previously been the locus of architectural dreams. In the mid-aughts, creative mastermind Santiago Calatrava designed the “Sky Cubes,” a soaring 835-foot residential tower that ultimately died in 2008. After the demise of Mr. Calatrava’s luxury tower, Morali Architects outlined a plan for a 1,018-foot tall, mixed-use skyscraper, which received City Planning Certification in 2013.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 08:03 PM   #794
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So... Are we way off on this? Does this mean that this isn't even the downtown SHoP tower at all?
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So... Are we way off on this? Does this mean that this isn't even the downtown SHoP tower at all?
I'm more than positive that this is the location of the Shop supertall but what is clear is that the Seaport redevelopment is Howard Hughes main priority and this allows them to speed up that development.
As far as 80 South street maybe the air right purchase and the (maybe) Shop design was used as marketing tool to sell the site, just speculating here so who knows.
But I for one am actually glad to see them selling/going in a joint venture for the site cause that means we might see it developed sooner then it would have otherwise considering it was not Howard Hughes main priority downtown.
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Finding a joint partner to develop this site would be the best case scenario for a SHoP designed tower.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #797
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Howard Hughes already has their hands full with shopping centers like Summerlin and the 22 tower Ward Centers development in Honolulu. They should just sell and focus on the retail portion. A new developer can hire SHoP.
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That's kind of what I was wondering. Would SHoP (and presumably the design they've been working on) be packaged with this sale? Or does a sale mean that there's effectively no design again?
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That's kind of what I was wondering. Would SHoP (and presumably the design they've been working on) be packaged with this sale? Or does a sale mean that there's effectively no design again?
It could easily mean both. The SHoP design adds value to the sale since it suggests a very large tower with good return on investment. But a new developer could downsize or just choose their own architect. The location has already drawn a high-powered starchitect. It'd be a kick if someone hired Zaha Hadid to do the tower.
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I'd hope for Adrian Smith and Gordon Gill, they did a superb job with the Nordstrom Tower and something similar here would be really nice
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