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Old March 18th, 2016, 01:24 AM   #881
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^ Chinese developers move quickly. Can't imagine we wait too long for this.
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Old March 18th, 2016, 05:26 AM   #882
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Well then, that's insanely awesome!
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Old March 18th, 2016, 11:49 PM   #883
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Wow, 1,436 feet and 113 stories is a significant height increase!
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Old March 19th, 2016, 02:14 AM   #884
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Old March 19th, 2016, 03:40 PM   #885
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Just heard of this project new possible height.. had to come check and mentally subscribe to this thread xD
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Old March 20th, 2016, 01:02 AM   #886
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Very excited for this project. Just hoping SHoP stays on board
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Old March 20th, 2016, 01:37 AM   #887
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Nice new height and all, but can anyone please nail this thing down and begin building?
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Old March 20th, 2016, 03:56 AM   #888
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Dancing bananas galore indeed!

Tallestkidontheblock, you deserve an award, you were mighty close in predicting the height.
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Old March 21st, 2016, 12:25 AM   #889
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Amazing height! Hope it will be roof height
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 05:20 AM   #890
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Somebody make us a skyline render damn it!
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 07:03 AM   #891
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The Needles have hit the Financial District.
Between this, Shvo Tower, and 45 Broad Street, that is 3 supertall residentials coming to Downtown!
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 08:41 PM   #892
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Amazing height! Hope it will be roof height
It's 113 floors, I'm not certain but there's a good chance it's the top floor height so this could be even taller.

I think they should just surpass 1WTC while they're at it.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 09:11 PM   #893
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This is southern Manhattans take on 432 Park Avenue. If this tower has 113 floors and has only 817,000 square feet that means that each floor has 7230 square feet. If the tower has a square footprint it makes the towers dimensions 85' by 85'. This would make the height width ratio almost 17/1. 432 Park Avenue has a slenderness ratio of 15/1. Which makes this tower skinnier than 432 Park Avenue.
+I like this towers design and height but dislike the position, I think it would be better if the skyscraper was being built further away from the harbor, because it makes the skyline un-proportional. I wonder how it will look with One World Trade Center havinga neighbor with a higher roof height.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 09:31 PM   #894
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I like this towers design and height but dislike the position, I think it would be better if the skyscraper was being built further away from the harbor, because it makes the skyline un-proportional. I wonder how it will look with One World Trade Center havinga neighbor with a higher roof height.
I had this thought as well -- it will certainly drastically shift the balance of the Lower Manhattan skyline. Something like this:



Original photo by Nick Ulvieri:#FlyNYON-2016-WEB-11 by Nick Ulivieri, on Flickr

I don't mind it being right on the water, I think it will add a ton of drama, especially if arriving in the East river by boat, or looking from the Brooklyn side. But it does make the skyline a little goal post-y. It seems to beg for a "third heat" somewhere between the two poles of 80 South and the WTC. Unfortunately there aren't a ton of development opportunities there, but we have a couple other supertalls on the way that should help bridge the gap in the meantime.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 09:45 PM   #895
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It's far enough from 1WTC that I think it would look fine taller and actually balance out the skyline.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 11:22 PM   #896
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This would be like the 432 Park of Downtown. I think it looks great.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 12:10 AM   #897
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But it does make the skyline a little goal post-y. It seems to beg for a "third heat" somewhere between the two poles of 80 South and the WTC. Unfortunately there aren't a ton of development opportunities there, but we have a couple other supertalls on the way that should help bridge the gap in the meantime.
Now that Fulton Street Transit center is done, that area should be upzoned to allow for an intermediate cluster there, right in the middle.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 12:23 AM   #898
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I actually like the idea of having a tower that tall on the eastern edge of downtown to balance the WTC. In fact I've been hoping for that to happen for years.
What I think this area needs is more towers around 80 South st to create its own cluster, kinda the way 1 WTC is surrounded by 800'-1200' towers. And I see that happening with 45 Broad st and as mentioned above, the increased action around Fulton street.
It will be interesting to see those 2 giant clusters on opposite ends of downtown, in fact downtown could give midtown a run for its money for the better skyline in the city; it already does to be honest.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 01:06 AM   #899
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Now that Fulton Street Transit center is done, that area should be upzoned to allow for an intermediate cluster there, right in the middle.
I hope that happens! My only question is, how many non-historic buildings could realistically be razed to make room? So much of that area seems like it should be untouchable (whether or not the LPC has actually deemed it so.)

Maybe we can convince some developers to raze and replace 59 Maiden, 60 Wall and 15 William...
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 01:33 AM   #900
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I had this thought as well -- it will certainly drastically shift the balance of the Lower Manhattan skyline. Something like this:



Original photo by Nick Ulvieri:#FlyNYON-2016-WEB-11 by Nick Ulivieri, on Flickr
Great illustration. I just realized how much Manhattan needs this building.
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